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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8352673 times)

Offline John.K1

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11010 on: October 22, 2015, 10:00:01 PM »
Hi Alien. Have to take a look at DS movies again. Thanks.

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« Reply #11010 on: October 22, 2015, 10:00:01 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11011 on: October 22, 2015, 10:59:13 PM »
Itsu, the 3300pf (3n3), .0033uf cap with the 1k adj resistor shows to be a 300khz+ frequency now this is at a 1C charge rate, the question is will the gate trigger at 63% of the voltage? or will this take a second cycle? this second cycle will reduce the operating frequency to 150khz or a pulse every 2nd cycle of the grenade circuit.

Can you check the logic gates using your scope before and after each stage to determine how it is triggering prior to making any changes?

Hi Starcruiser,

i am not sure where you get these 3300pF and 1K values from as i presently have 330pF (C5) and 4.7K (R8), but i guess you mean that as an example.

Anyway, i have measured on the 4046 pin 4 output (triggered on) with the purple probe and measured pin 3 (delay) with the blue probe, first with the present 330pF cap in,
see first screenshot, then with a 3nF cap in, see second screenshot.
The max delay went up from 1.28us to 13.1us as can be seen in the screenshots.

But in both cases when turning the 4.7K pot (from 0 delay) to a something bigger delay, the output signal (Voltage / current) on the inductor coil drops and we fall out of lock soon.
I have made a video of this which can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBCqigIdjs&feature=youtu.be

In this video, again voltage (yellow) and current (green) over and through the inductor/bifilar coil, purple is the gate signal to the kacher MOSFET.

So allthough the delay can be increased with the 3.3nF cap, i cannot use it as the PLL quits.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11012 on: October 22, 2015, 11:26:25 PM »
I tried to make up a block diagram, i think its something like the first diagram below.
That block diagram helps.

Are the pulses coming out of the CD4046 block driving the Yoke and pulses driving the "Kacher" in phase ?  Are they the same pulses ?

Are the pulse widths driving the Yoke, constant or dynamically varied in response to some feedback signal (as in the classical TL494 application) ?

How are you preventing the "Kacher's" RF burst from reaching the CD4046's feedback path ?


RANT:
A) The MOSFET Divers/Yoke form a switchable AC voltage source.
B) The "Grenade" inductor forms an LC circuit with some capacitance.

In order for A to drive B, the voltage waveform generated by A must be 180º out of phase with the voltage appearing at B (this is the oscillation condition for oscillator energy transfer mandated by circuit theory).  The PLL will automatically adjust for this to be true and as a consequence the PLL will be synchronized to the voltage appearing across the "Grenade's" voltage waveform. Even if you phase-shift your feedback signal by +90º then the PLL will adjust the phase by -270º to maintain that oscillation condition.

Hypothetically, if the MOSFET Drivers were current sources, then the PLL would automatically synchronize to the current waveform.
This is not a viable solution, but it helps to understand why the present PLL synchronizes to the voltage and not the current in the circuit that generates the feedback signal (the "Grenade").

Regarding the current transformer:
Properly burdened and unsaturated current transformer will have its secondary current in-phase with the primary current.
Unburdened current transformer will have its output shifted by 90º.

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« Reply #11012 on: October 22, 2015, 11:26:25 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11013 on: October 22, 2015, 11:43:43 PM »
The inductor is the coil receiving the Kacher pulse. I don't fully understand why the Kacher should be synched to the inductor current waveform. Synched to the grenade current waveform would make more sense to me- I think??

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« Reply #11014 on: October 23, 2015, 12:12:32 AM »
The inductor is the coil receiving the Kacher pulse. I don't fully understand why the Kacher should be synched to the inductor current waveform. Synched to the grenade current waveform would make more sense to me- I think??
Itsu's block diagram does not make a distinction between an inductor and a "Grenade".

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11015 on: October 23, 2015, 01:19:11 AM »
Hi Starcruiser,

i am not sure where you get these 3300pF and 1K values from as i presently have 330pF (C5) and 4.7K (R8), but i guess you mean that as an example.

Anyway, i have measured on the 4046 pin 4 output (triggered on) with the purple probe and measured pin 3 (delay) with the blue probe, first with the present 330pF cap in,
see first screenshot, then with a 3nF cap in, see second screenshot.
The max delay went up from 1.28us to 13.1us as can be seen in the screenshots.

But in both cases when turning the 4.7K pot (from 0 delay) to a something bigger delay, the output signal (Voltage / current) on the inductor coil drops and we fall out of lock soon.
I have made a video of this which can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBCqigIdjs&feature=youtu.be

In this video, again voltage (yellow) and current (green) over and through the inductor/bifilar coil, purple is the gate signal to the kacher MOSFET.

So allthough the delay can be increased with the 3.3nF cap, i cannot use it as the PLL quits.

Regards Itsu

Itsu sorry I think we are talking about the delay line for the kacher circuit right? Not the PLL cap and pot (C5 & R8).

I'm starting to wonder if this resistor cap config might need to be modified too in the diagram below, much like the signal source switch you changed. move the resistor to prior to the capacitor instead of after it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11016 on: October 23, 2015, 02:41:56 AM »
I have a question.

Ruslan's work is based on the Akula's work. Many pages back Nick was posting one of the Akulas movies explaining the principal work of this device.
The funny thing is - Akula consider the inductor (the ferrite bar) between the Tesla secondary and its antenna as a very important element of the device. And why? As he says- it change the sinusoidal wave from the secondary to the wave with sharp front edge .If I good understood  Akula is getting peaks of over 36KV there.  He says this is like a hammer.  Have you got anybody this effect yet?? I am trying to get it myself for two days and still nothing like that. In fact it is hard to believe it can work like that. What is your opinion about it?

Gentlemen, I watched a very interesting video, and I have to admit that the "Hammer" must be something in the melody 36kV in such a form, see picture No.2
you have to take into account that the voltage 130V.~/230V It serves as the input signal pulse at the output of the Tesla coil will be very high
The person who tries to explain how to achieve such an impulse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGuw3QvoseI
I have not seen this before
Thank you for the clarification and sharing.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11017 on: October 23, 2015, 03:58:23 AM »
I have not seen this before
Thank you for the clarification and sharing.

I have not seen it before either.

The proper pulse width and frequency creates unipolar pulses.  Something I need to test for sure.

From what I can tell in that video, Itsu's pulse width is way too large which is why he doesn't see the unipolar pulses.  The pulse width should be exactly one cycle length of the sinusoidal frequency that is in resonance.  Think I have that correct...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11018 on: October 23, 2015, 11:20:30 AM »
That block diagram helps.

Are the pulses coming out of the CD4046 block driving the Yoke and pulses driving the "Kacher" in phase ?  Are they the same pulses ?

Are the pulse widths driving the Yoke, constant or dynamically varied in response to some feedback signal (as in the classical TL494 application) ?

How are you preventing the "Kacher's" RF burst from reaching the CD4046's feedback path ?


RANT:
A) The MOSFET Divers/Yoke form a switchable AC voltage source.
B) The "Grenade" inductor forms an LC circuit with some capacitance.

In order for A to drive B, the voltage waveform generated by A must be 180º out of phase with the voltage appearing at B (this is the oscillation condition for oscillator energy transfer mandated by circuit theory).  The PLL will automatically adjust for this to be true and as a consequence the PLL will be synchronized to the voltage appearing across the "Grenade's" voltage waveform. Even if you phase-shift your feedback signal by +90º then the PLL will adjust the phase by -270º to maintain that oscillation condition.

Hypothetically, if the MOSFET Drivers were current sources, then the PLL would automatically synchronize to the current waveform.
This is not a viable solution, but it helps to understand why the present PLL synchronizes to the voltage and not the current in the circuit that generates the feedback signal (the "Grenade").

Regarding the current transformer:
Properly burdened and unsaturated current transformer will have its secondary current in-phase with the primary current.
Unburdened current transformer will have its output shifted by 90º.

verpies,

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Are the pulses coming out of the CD4046 block driving the Yoke and pulses driving the "Kacher" in phase ?  Are they the same pulses ?

The origin (pin 4 of the 4046) is the same, there is a switch (S1) inbetween to select either the normal or the inverted pulse (due to an inbetween 74HC14)
There is also some logic (74HC132) before the Kacher driver/MOSFET to adjust the pulse position / width.

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Are the pulse widths driving the Yoke, constant or dynamically varied in response to some feedback signal (as in the classical TL494 application) ?

Hmmm,  good question, i will have to check that, but i don't think the width changes.

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How are you preventing the "Kacher's" RF burst from reaching the CD4046's feedback path ?

Not (yet), but this is not needed right now as the Kacher is mostly not activated, i check the Kacher drive pulse for correct firing, not the output (allthough
for some testing i did fire up the kacher and that is what is showing in the earlier screenshot).


 
Ok, so what you are saying is that in this case A) and B) we ALWAYS will have the PLL sync on the VOLTAGE like i see it!
Is that not contradictionary with the fact that a (burdened / unburdened) current xformer can shift 90° (so flipping from voltage to current)?
 
By the way, there is a video clip from RUSLAN somewhere where he shows that the moustache like signal (current Xformer output) flips a 90° when activating the kacher.
Edit, i looked it up and it was mentioned earlier here:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422411/#msg422411

Thanks,    regards Itsu

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« Reply #11018 on: October 23, 2015, 11:20:30 AM »
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« Reply #11019 on: October 23, 2015, 11:26:26 AM »
The inductor is the coil receiving the Kacher pulse. I don't fully understand why the Kacher should be synched to the inductor current waveform. Synched to the grenade current waveform would make more sense to me- I think??

Hoppy,   could be, but in the 2th diagram in post #10999 there is the feedback path showing the kacher and the inductor coil, and i assume that the signals (RF burst and Sine waves) are from them, thus
that the sine wave signals (voltage U and current J) are from the inductor.

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« Reply #11020 on: October 23, 2015, 11:35:42 AM »
Itsu sorry I think we are talking about the delay line for the kacher circuit right? Not the PLL cap and pot (C5 & R8).

I'm starting to wonder if this resistor cap config might need to be modified too in the diagram below, much like the signal source switch you changed. move the resistor to prior to the capacitor instead of after it.

Starcruiser,  aha,  that explains.

Yes i know that your circled cap/pot shifts the pulse but by a small amount, just enough to position it (somewhere) on top of a sign wave, but not enough to put it 90° further or back.
In a skype conversation with Oleg = ALLEGGA = Foreigner i understood that the C5/R8 is used to shift the Kacher pulse on top of the inductors Current peak, but i could have understood wrongly as
it does not make sense.   
It more compensates for the feedback delay as mentioned by Lost_bro earlier.

Regards Itsu


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« Reply #11021 on: October 23, 2015, 11:39:19 AM »
I have not seen it before either.

The proper pulse width and frequency creates unipolar pulses.  Something I need to test for sure.

From what I can tell in that video, Itsu's pulse width is way too large which is why he doesn't see the unipolar pulses.  The pulse width should be exactly one cycle length of the sinusoidal frequency that is in resonance.  Think I have that correct...

Dog,  adjusting the Kachers pulse width (R9) to be smaller, causes also that the amplitude drops significally untill no useable signal is left, but it could be that there is one specific position where things sync up and provide
the magic we need.

Itsu


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« Reply #11022 on: October 23, 2015, 11:45:56 AM »
" pulse width is way too large which is why he doesn't see the unipolar pulses"
Yes it is.
- Unfortunately, the receipt of the sinusoidal signal is to select the top and switching off unwanted vibrations ferrite rod is quite a challenge

a coil inductor with one end grounded and the capacitor by "Antene" is thus closes the circuit (LC) Tesla
 I wonder whether if the use of the function generator set at 1% duty pulse width and check on the air and so can tune into low voltage 10Vpp?
you should use RFI filter as Biff in a single core

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« Reply #11023 on: October 23, 2015, 01:17:45 PM »
Hi Itsu
This waveform is taken back one year ago. It is without the use of kacher. It is the product of tuning on the high frequency component which is created at the akula's so called snubber. Akula is a great engineer and knows how a snubber works. And this is not a snubber rather than a clever way to create imposed high frequency on a low KHz power signal. Someone can vary in certain window this frequency by changing the snubber's 3.3nF cap.     
 I just remembered it while watching your tuned waveform. ;)

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« Reply #11024 on: October 23, 2015, 01:25:53 PM »
I have not seen it before either.

The proper pulse width and frequency creates unipolar pulses.  Something I need to test for sure.

From what I can tell in that video, Itsu's pulse width is way too large which is why he doesn't see the unipolar pulses.  The pulse width should be exactly one cycle length of the sinusoidal frequency that is in resonance.  Think I have that correct...
High D1
If you like unipolar pulses there is a tested way. Just attach a speed hf diode between katcher and its antenna. :)

 

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