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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8540748 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10785 on: October 11, 2015, 10:53:49 AM »
   Itsu:
   I should have tested the grenade output coil self resonance frequency, before I rewound the inductor to 48 turns and placed it on  top of it. But, I didn't think of it when I had the chance.
Now the 1 turns test coil connected from the SG, has to be placed on top of the inductor coil, which can influence the resonance readings of the output coil.
   So, in any case I'll see what the grenade reads with the new inductor in place.

  EDIT: Here's the scope shot of the new grenade readings. This is using a one turn coil over the inductor coil to test the grenade's output coil self resonance frequency.  I get 1.15 divitions, at .5us= 0.575us, for 1.74Mhz. Correct?
Alien
Does it divide by 432 ? show me both wave forms primary and secondary out, how stable is it all 'locked' ? no forget it ! do you have a frequency counter ?

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10785 on: October 11, 2015, 10:53:49 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10786 on: October 11, 2015, 12:37:02 PM »
   Itsu:
   I should have tested the grenade output coil self resonance frequency, before I rewound the inductor to 48 turns and placed it on  top of it. But, I didn't think of it when I had the chance.
Now the 1 turns test coil connected from the SG, has to be placed on top of the inductor coil, which can influence the resonance readings of the output coil.
   So, in any case I'll see what the grenade reads with the new inductor in place.

  EDIT: Here's the scope shot of the new grenade readings. This is using a one turn coil over the inductor coil to test the grenade's output coil self resonance frequency. I get 1.15 divitions, at .5us= 0.575us, for 1.74Mhz. Correct?




Nick,

You are close,
i count 1,1 div.  between 2 peaks  @  0.5us  = 0.55us   =   1818Khz  =  1.8Mhz
or
i count 7.4 cycles in 8 divisions (8 x 0.5 microseconds) = 7.4/(8 x 0.0000005) = 1850000Hz = 1.85MHz

So it seems to be the same as in the latest measurement,  about 1.8Mhz
I would put the 1 / 2 loop winding around the 168 coil itself, not over the inductor.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10787 on: October 11, 2015, 04:24:37 PM »
  Itsu:
  What I did was to find the best position showing the highest amplitude, as you had previously mentioned. Which was not on one end or the other of the inductor, but in the middle of the inductor, instead. If I take a reading at the end of the inductor, but off of the inductor and over the output coil, the reading is much lower in amplitude.
  Today I'll take a reading of the output coil when it's not over the inductor, to compare.  Which one will be the correct reading? Who knows.  But, there was slightly lower reading than the previous 1.85Mhz. As I see not 1.1 divitions but between 1.1 and 1.2 divition, more like 1.15 divitions, therefor the 1.74Mhz, instead. In any case it's fairly close to your 1.85Mhz. And my SG was not at it's maximum of 2Mhz.
  However, your original 700Khz grenade reading is a long way away from the 1.74Mhz that I'm seeing.  Why such a big difference?

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10788 on: October 11, 2015, 04:58:33 PM »
  Alien Grey:
  I'm not concern as to the phase lock loop at this time, nor anything else, like PWM, frequency controller, etz...
 Why don't YOU guys do the PLL circuit and show how well it works (on the scope), when adding or removing 500w- 1000w bulbs. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10789 on: October 11, 2015, 06:02:16 PM »
Why don't YOU guys do the PLL circuit and show how well it works (on the scope), when adding or removing 500w- 1000w bulbs.
https://youtu.be/NHpUE6oqt7k?t=9m30s - see how frequency changes under load attached after power on and PLL handling that.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10790 on: October 11, 2015, 06:55:49 PM »
Just a funny thing. I am making new Tesla coil and I need it to resonate at 2.75MHz (similar project to ruslan's) . I use 0.4mm plastic insulated wire. The funny thing is as I am unwinding to make its self resonance of given frequency, it doesn't behave linear but rather by jumps. Funny but I can live with that. More funnier thing happen when with more wire unwind-ed my frequency jumped back to lover value, and that's something what annoys me. My coil is now pretty small and nearly useless as a Tesla magnifying coil :(

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« Reply #10791 on: October 11, 2015, 07:02:35 PM »
  T-1000: That video is showing how the PLL works to maintain a steady frequency. Nice!  Yet, the bulbs still dim with each additional bulb, although the scope settings stay the same.  And for that device being the 4000w output version, ALL those bulbs look pretty dim, without the Kacher adding anything to the induction circuit. 
  Also, just look at his Kacher's primary and secondary coils in that circuit, using the long secondary, and a several turns primary (8 turns?).
  Although that is the not device version that I'm working towards at the moment, the question was: why don't you guys show what your PLL can do.  Not by showing how well Oleg's circuit works.
  I've already explained that I will keep my load of 3 100w bulbs steady, not changing it, for now. And tune my device to that load. And we'll see how steady the device works, or doesn't work, to hold the frequency. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10792 on: October 11, 2015, 07:14:21 PM »
concerning the above quote in bold, are you refering to the below snubber details (see picture)?
I think he was referring to this schematic.

These orange windings are not really snubber windings because they do not convert the spike energy to heat but recover it back into the power supply, ...thus they rather deserve to be called "recovery windings".

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10793 on: October 11, 2015, 07:27:39 PM »
  T-1000: That video is showing how the PLL works to maintain a steady frequency. Nice!  Yet, the bulbs still dim with each additional bulb, although the scope settings stay the same.  And for that device being the 4000w output version, ALL those bulbs look pretty dim, without the Kacher adding anything to the induction circuit. 
  Also, just look at his Kacher's primary and secondary coils in that circuit, using the long secondary, and a several turns primary (8 turns?).
  Although that is the not device version that I'm working towards at the moment, the question was: why don't you guys show what your PLL can do.  Not by showing how well Oleg's circuit works.
  I've already explained that I will keep my load of 3 100w bulbs steady, not changing it, for now. And tune my device to that load. And we'll see how steady the device works, or doesn't work, to hold the frequency.

Nick
Your very critical, your altering the load and changing the phase out of lock while it compensates for the frequency and phase change, also cameras and video circuits have ambient light correction circuits 'iris' to stop people looking into burning bright light or the other extreme a candle up a railway tunnel. it's basic uni tech day one stuff, ;)

Nothing in life is perfect, take it easy.
PS if your really looking at a bright light at the end of a tunnel, put in a good word for me please.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10794 on: October 11, 2015, 07:41:21 PM »
  John.K1:
  What you are seeing with your short Kacher secondary coil, is similar to what I'm seeing as well. I had my best HV output from my Kacher at around 1.2Mhz, or so. With the 3mm streamer and intense HF burns. Not so, at the moment.
   There are better and worse frequencies that the Kacher likes to run at. But, those best running frequencies are not always where we need them to be, in order to properly sync with the induction circuit.   
  Notice how each one of Ruslan's Kacher coils, are different in each of the different videos. Now he is using the long secondary, and bigger several turns primary. Not the short secondary like before. 

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« Reply #10795 on: October 11, 2015, 07:56:30 PM »
  Alien Grey:
  I'm not being very critical, I'm observant instead.  And, I'm NOT changing any bulb load, nor running any PLL to be in or out of phase, as you seam to think.  I will show what I come up with, and how it works.  But, will you show how well your PLL works on this particular device?
  As mentioned I'm looking for, and tuning for the "effect",  for now.  First things first...  that does not exclude any other changes or additions to the various circuits in the future. As I expect to make changes as I go along.

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« Reply #10796 on: October 11, 2015, 08:03:08 PM »
Hi Nick,  Yep Ruslan was using higher frequency before, that's why that shorter coil.  My point here was to show that unwinding of the secondary doesn't follow the linear rule. You unwind meter of wire and not any difference on the scope, than it suddenly jumps down with the next extra wire token off. But more interesting was that with even more wire down the frequency jumped a bit back. - so I had to take even more wire off. Now I ended up with 70 turns left :)  I have to compensate it with higher voltage input :(

Yep, Ruslan tesla coil made me busy too - my firs build had over 900 turns. Than I unwind them to just 1/3 and than put the rest back again and than I made conical coil which still is not what I want (low frequency). Lots of time spent on it. But I always got a dim 20W light on the  grenade coil. Very important is to see this device like three units and there has to be harmony between its impedance and ofcourse right timing.  I found the grenade coil a bit confusing so I substituted it with special homemade capacitor and will see if this will work. Now working on it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10797 on: October 11, 2015, 08:04:13 PM »
I think he was referring to this schematic.

These orange windings are not really snubber windings because they do not convert the spike energy to heat but recover it back into the power supply, ...thus they rather deserve to be called "recovery windings".

Hi Verpies,

I was referring to the schematic clip posted by Itsu but also referring to your clamp circuit as being more suitable for dealing with the spikes in the manner you describe.

Regards
Hoppy

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« Reply #10798 on: October 11, 2015, 08:33:29 PM »
  John.K1:
  I don't think that testing the Kacher's output frequency at the antenna coil is anywhere close to being accurate. As the distance the probe is from the coil affects the readings. Or, you have to place the scope probe touching the antenna coil, in the exact same spot, each time you take a HV reading. And even then, I don't know how accurate that would actually be. I use my 100x probe for that purpose, as it can read up to 2000v, or so.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10799 on: October 11, 2015, 08:59:09 PM »
Nick, you do not need your 100x probe. I use my multi meter in meter distance to read the frequency and when i need I just put my 10x probe i meter distance and read on the scope. No need to do anything else. In fact this is how Ruslan measure his frequency too.  Yes, I also check the collector and the base of the transistor on my kacher to adjust good wave form.

 

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