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Offline John.K1

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10470 on: September 27, 2015, 09:23:55 PM »
Just for interest - this suppose to be a "Free energy" torch ,sucking just a magnetic field of earth :)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6D0l3xvdc

No sure but I think the guy who shows that torch he was on Youtube with his Free energy device more than year ago. I am pretty sure it is him. I am too lazy to search for that video now.

He says after 12 hours its light power goes down and needs o be switched off to recharge. It gives 120 Lm and the shop guaranty is 2 years but life expectancy more than 5 years ;)

$95   :)  I do not spend so much for the batteries for my torch in 5 years :) 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10470 on: September 27, 2015, 09:23:55 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10471 on: September 27, 2015, 09:35:48 PM »

how about something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TL494-KA7500-DC-9V-25V-Driver-Board-DC-DC-Converter-Inverter-Boost-Module-PWM-/131586554657?hash=item1ea32b7b21

Guys, could this be something for Nick to order?   Not sure if its frequency is adjustable (enough).

Regards Itsu

I have one of these a home and didn't use it yet. I just wanted to ask you the same question - Can I change the requency?  :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10472 on: September 27, 2015, 10:04:43 PM »

Hi John,

well it says so in the description under 4, see screenshot.
There is pot on the board, not sure if that is the frequency adjust.
They also say you will get a schematic send with it,  does that not show which components to change or modify?

Regards itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10472 on: September 27, 2015, 10:04:43 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10473 on: September 27, 2015, 10:13:12 PM »
Hi John,

well it says so in the description under 4, see screenshot.
There is pot on the board, not sure if that is the frequency adjust.
They also say you will get a schematic send with it,  does that not show which components to change or modify?

Regards itsu

The pot on that board is the pulse width adjustment, most probably. Unfortunately none of the schematics on that link (photos) actually describe the board's circuit. But the timing components that set the frequency of the 494 are the usual ones : Ct and Rt, which appear on the board as C1 and R6, connected to pins 5 and 6 of the 494. So yes, you can change the frequency of the board.... "simply" by replacing these parts with different values. These SMD parts are smaller than a grain of rice, so good luck. You could just remove them from the board and bring wires out to a socket or screwterminal where you could substitute different (and easier to handle) resistor and capacitor values to change the operating frequency.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10474 on: September 27, 2015, 10:19:28 PM »

The kacher running at higher frequency is caused by the lesser turns on the secondary, but at the same time you reduce the voltage.
The only thing you can do to increase that secondary output voltage is to increase the primary voltage.
Latest diagram from "ALLEGGA" a few pages back show that the kacher primary is running on 130-135V!! see here:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg461537/#msg461537

Regards Itsu

I reckon that the voltage should be around 130V and current limited as shown on Allegga'a circuit. Remember that Daly also indicated this voltage in his design. It makes sense that if the sine wave peak needs to whacked hard, then short and very high voltage impulses are going to be a lot more effective when induced into the inductor.

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Offline itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10475 on: September 27, 2015, 10:26:02 PM »
The pot on that board is the pulse width adjustment, most probably. Unfortunately none of the schematics on that link (photos) actually describe the board's circuit. But the timing components that set the frequency of the 494 are the usual ones : Ct and Rt, which appear on the board as C1 and R6, connected to pins 5 and 6 of the 494. So yes, you can change the frequency of the board.... "simply" by replacing these parts with different values. These SMD parts are smaller than a grain of rice, so good luck. You could just remove them from the board and bring wires out to a socket or screwterminal where you could substitute different (and easier to handle) resistor and capacitor values to change the operating frequency.

Thanks Tinselkoala, 

i think its doable with a magnifier glass, then  "remove them from the board and bring wires out to a socket or screwterminal where you could substitute different (and easier to handle) resistor and capacitor values to change the operating frequency".

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10476 on: September 27, 2015, 10:32:04 PM »
This is how I'm interpreting those schematics:

The "PWM Pulse Output Section" does seem to show the output side of the unit, the part on the right outlined with a red box. The transistors are the ones marked " Q6" to "Q9" on the left edge of the board. This schematic also shows the timing components Ct and Rt on the left side of the schematic.

The "Electric Fish" shows how a 494 can be used to drive an H-bridge of IRF3205 mosfets (with a driver stage in between) which then powers a stepup transformer to give a HV output for stunning fish.

The third diagram with the yellow square representing the 494 is very similar to the "electric fish" circuit but with different frequency and voltage, for use as a DC to AC inverter.

The final diagram looks like it's using the 494 as the oscillator in a DC-DC converter with a bipolar DC output.

If you've already built 494 oscillators for your projects I don't know why you'd want to try this unit. It doesn't appear to offer anything new, over the 494-based circuits you've been using. Of course, it's very inexpensive and just for that reason it might be something you could use, modify, experiment with.

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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10477 on: September 27, 2015, 10:32:30 PM »
Not sure Hoppy.  My first guess is the surface area. That's why Ruslan use the Litz wire  (welding cable)?  , That's maybe why Tariel was using many wires? forming Litz wire too.  Many wires, lots of surface area. Just guess.

I think that this is a crucial thing to establish if we are to have any chance of understanding how this contraption functions. Ruslan definitely uses welding cable (I checked the spec from a close-up shot in the video) and I think so does Tariel. This is not Litz in the strictest sense, just multi-strand for flexibility. I too hazard a guess that surface area is most likely important for Ruslan's device, although I'm not so sure that this is the case for TK's device.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10478 on: September 27, 2015, 10:36:39 PM »
Thanks Tinselkoala, 

i think its doable with a magnifier glass, then  "remove them from the board and bring wires out to a socket or screwterminal where you could substitute different (and easier to handle) resistor and capacitor values to change the operating frequency".

Itsu

You consider it usable then Itsu.  ;)

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« Reply #10478 on: September 27, 2015, 10:36:39 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10479 on: September 27, 2015, 10:38:47 PM »

Aha,   ok,  i misunderstood.

I don't think the inductor (bifilar) coil will change when going to 24V, at least i did not change anything on my grenade / bifilar coil when i went to 24V.
It should stay at the specific length, like half the grenade coil length, meaning 17m or so.
When you wind that over the lower part of the grenade, you should have 3 layers of 24 turns or so.
Having 2x 12 turns as inductor/bifilar coil looks very short (lengthwise) to me and will cause a high resonance frequency when using 1  0.47uF cap in series (40Khz??).

Concerning this:

how about something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TL494-KA7500-DC-9V-25V-Driver-Board-DC-DC-Converter-Inverter-Boost-Module-PWM-/131586554657?hash=item1ea32b7b21

Guys, could this be something for Nick to order?   Not sure if its frequency is adjustable (enough).

Regards Itsu

  Itsu:  My frequency reading at the 0.47uf cap was about 25Khz, not 32Khz as it was previously, nor 40Khz as you had suspected.  Although now it dropped to 21khz, after I added two additional tuning caps to the 0.47uf wima capacitor, and used the magnet in the yoke, and ferrite in the grenade to adjust for the highest gain, and bulb brightness.
So, maybe I should leave the resonator coil as it is, for now? Or perhaps add one more layer of 12 turns to the induction (resonator) coil, then another if needed?

  We know that Ruslan was running his earlier device at 27.3Khz, (at the 0.47uf cap), on his previous build, and his Kacher was running at about 1.7Mhz. Which is doable for me, if I re-adjust my my current set of frequencies.
  Don't you think that I should try to obtain those same running frequencies, and see what happens there?

  Itsu, thanks for the link.  I've seen many of those "el cheapo" TL494 boards on the market, and I'd be into trying them out.
The price is right. And I probably could not make anything better, myself. Especially at those prices.
  But, if someone replicated the allegra board design, so that it can be tested, and if found to work as it should, then they could be sold to any of us interested in trying it out. That may be the best way to go.   Some one like Oleg, perhaps, or any of us members here.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10480 on: September 27, 2015, 10:44:03 PM »
This is how I'm interpreting those schematics:

The "PWM Pulse Output Section" does seem to show the output side of the unit, the part on the right outlined with a red box. The transistors are the ones marked " Q6" to "Q9" on the left edge of the board. This schematic also shows the timing components Ct and Rt on the left side of the schematic.

The "Electric Fish" shows how a 494 can be used to drive an H-bridge of IRF3205 mosfets (with a driver stage in between) which then powers a stepup transformer to give a HV output for stunning fish.

The third diagram with the yellow square representing the 494 is very similar to the "electric fish" circuit but with different frequency and voltage, for use as a DC to AC inverter.

The final diagram looks like it's using the 494 as the oscillator in a DC-DC converter with a bipolar DC output.

If you've already built 494 oscillators for your projects I don't know why you'd want to try this unit. It doesn't appear to offer anything new, over the 494-based circuits you've been using. Of course, it's very inexpensive and just for that reason it might be something you could use, modify, experiment with.

Its for Nick, he is asking since some time for commercially available PWM boards to drive his Ruslan replication.
This one (with a tl494) comes very close to the one used by Ruslan and is as you say very inexpensive.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10481 on: September 27, 2015, 10:44:48 PM »
You consider it usable then Itsu.  ;)

Yes,  looks like it   ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10482 on: September 27, 2015, 10:48:23 PM »
  Itsu:  My frequency reading at the 0.47uf cap is about 25Khz, not 32Khz as it was previously, nor 40Khz as you had mentioned.
So, maybe I should leave it as is, for now? Or perhaps add one more layer of 12 turns, then another if needed?

Nick, it reads 25Khz as that is what the mazilla is driving it with at the moment, but that is not the resonance frequency of the 2x 12 turn bifilar inductor coil with the 0.47uF cap.

Try to get it in resonance as mentioned before.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10483 on: September 27, 2015, 10:50:06 PM »
  Itsu:  My frequency reading at the 0.47uf cap is about 25Khz, not 32Khz as it was previously, nor 40Khz as you had mentioned.
So, maybe I should leave it as is, for now? Or perhaps add one more layer of 12 turns, then another if needed?

Nick,

With respect, you are going about the whole think arse about face. You need to start with the signal generator and work logically from grenade coil as previously suggested. When you have established the low frequency needed, the inductor can then be wound to suit your high voltage 0.47uF WIMA cap to hopefully resonate at that frequency.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10484 on: September 27, 2015, 10:56:14 PM »
You'll need to use a higher-current output stage with that 494 board though; those little transistors on the board aren't going to be able to handle much power. The H-bridge of IRF3205s shown in one of those schematics might be a good choice of output stage.

 

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