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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8525525 times)

Offline magpwr

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10365 on: September 20, 2015, 01:38:36 PM »
Hi Magpwr
Why is that so important? His current meter is at his converter input. Even if he is using a ups or mains grid, the current consumption indication would be the same at converter's input.

To Jeg,

The clamp meter revealed 1Amps give or take X 220volts =220watts.But you did not factored in efficiency loss at various stages.

Hence the output is nothing of interest as no circuit be it step up or step down inverter not counting the switching loss at the IGBT or mosfet driver is ever above 90% typically around 77%...88% at each stage.

Although at a glance it was interesting at first. ;D ;D

I am bored already. 8)



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10365 on: September 20, 2015, 01:38:36 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10366 on: September 20, 2015, 04:07:21 PM »
  Itsu, TK:
  Ok, I've made another test this morning to see what's the difference if using ferrite back into the core to increase the gain.
  Here's what I got now, with ferrite, still using the same scope settings, 05us/Div.  I see 5.8 sections,  of 0.1us sections , on this test. Right?  Just bare with me, I'll get this down, yet.
  This, is just as a comparison, but, I'll remove the ferrite and test again, later.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10367 on: September 20, 2015, 04:23:06 PM »

Nick,

i see 5.5 sections of 0.1us between 2 peaks or 2 zero crossings, = 0.55us which is 1.818MHz
Did you add some turns now?

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« Reply #10367 on: September 20, 2015, 04:23:06 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10368 on: September 20, 2015, 04:43:54 PM »
To Jeg,

The clamp meter revealed 1Amps give or take X 220volts =220watts.But you did not factored in efficiency loss at various stages.


Magpwr
This demonstration is supposed to be an OU. In every system there are losses of course but in Urfa's video the brightness of 1Kw bulb is more than I could expect from a conventional system. The angry spark as Hoppy says is really angry :)
Keep the good work

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10369 on: September 20, 2015, 04:46:30 PM »
  No, same amount of turns, so that is the bandwidth spread that the ferrite can induce. Yes, it lowers the frequency, but can be used to fine tune to better match the induction circuit's frequency. And it can also increase the voltage output levels. As I don't have other means of fine tuning, I use ferrite, and magnetite on the yoke, if they work to improve the output.
  Ferrite seam to works better at certain frequencies, but does not seam to do much to increase gain at other frequencies.
 
   I probably do need to remove some more turns, and get the frequency up to 2.4Mhz if possible, to see if that does anything, unusual, at the 1:100 ratio. I'm betting that it will, we'll see.
Going there now...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10370 on: September 20, 2015, 04:54:14 PM »
@Itsu: Actually, for the best accuracy the scope's horizontal timebase should be set to provide _many_ cycles falling between the middle 8 major divisions on the scope. As many as you can count comfortably. Analog scopes will always have a little distortion -- if you look carefully, a signal of constant frequency will look a bit "squeezed" in the very center and a bit "expanded" on the left and right edges. Using the middle 8 graticule markers, and filling those 8 divisions with as many cycles as can be easily counted, will minimize errors caused by this non-linearity and also by the "estimating" of partial cycles.

@Nick: To make it easier to calculate, please use the horizontal Position control to place a peak, or a zero-crossing, _exactly_ on the second graticule line from the left.

This is really an easy computation to make. There is no need to use some web-based calculator that works only on a single cycle. It is just a matter of counting how many cycles appear in how much time.  Hz = Cycles per second, and "per" means division.   So for example if you have 18 full cycles PER 4 microseconds, that is 18/0.000004 = 4500000 cycles per second, or 4.5 MHz.  Or, as in this case, I see 7.1 or perhaps a tiny bit less cycles in 8 divisions (8 x 0.5 us/div) or 4 microseconds, so 7.1 / 0.000004 = 1775000 Hz or about 1.78 MHz. 

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« Reply #10371 on: September 20, 2015, 05:05:27 PM »
Yes, any demonstration that uses bulb brightness should have some actual measurement of brightness to go by. I don't have a good lightmeter myself, but I'm trying to find one that's suitable. These from Ebay are very cheap, I haven't tried them, but they are probably better than nothing (or eyeballs/cameras).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Accurate-200-000-Lux-Digital-Light-Meter-Tester-Photometer-Luxmeter-HS1010-/201135677970

I'd like to get one of these for general purpose use:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=55  (this one's a little over 100 dollars US--- and probably contains much the same circuit and sensor as the 14 dollar EBay one....    ???

They can get pretty expensive:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=64


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10372 on: September 20, 2015, 08:26:29 PM »

Yes, any demonstration that uses bulb brightness should have some actual measurement of brightness to go by. I don't have a good lightmeter myself, but I'm trying to find one that's suitable. These from Ebay are very cheap, I haven't tried them, but they are probably better than nothing (or eyeballs/cameras).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Accurate-200-000-Lux-Digital-Light-Meter-Tester-Photometer-Luxmeter-HS1010-/201135677970

I'd like to get one of these for general purpose use:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=55  (this one's a little over 100 dollars US--- and probably contains much the same circuit and sensor as the 14 dollar EBay one....    ???

They can get pretty expensive:
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=10&prodid=64

Have you tried Maplins ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10373 on: September 20, 2015, 08:33:24 PM »
Will post this  one more time.
Seems most have just bypassed my very last post except Hoppy's attention towards it

See how the effect works and how he lets the arc take place at the 1000W halogen.
Almost at the very end of the vid you'll see it.
Yet the entire vid is valuable how he puts different loads and see how it works.
but what is most important here to see is when
a Kacher / Tesla coil Radient RF Arcs at the lamp, that is RF Radiant HV arcing with amps in sync!
Very hot and visible to see how bright it gets when it arcs and flashes.
Same as Ruslan's latest 4kW demonstration when he tries to connect the other 2KW load to the system
you can see how it heavily arcs while trying to fit the wire to the connections.  Urfa sanli has the same arcing.
That is the result that has to be achieved! that is it. This Works! don't you all see it!?
Yet in the vid of Urfa there is no loopback/feedback part. it's just to show how he gets the effect.
Very important Vid here :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeJfRlvUU2A&feature

Trying to point out Valuable stuff here, not here to play games.

All the information is on the net how and yet alot of tempered information too.
But some ppl try to help many get the right ones for them to continue on with the work.
   Cheerz~

Nice device, it looks nothing like any of the devices i have seen on here, has any one got any information on the circuits and coil winding information ?  ;)  PS any one see the scrap Katcher Grenade device under the bench ;)

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« Reply #10373 on: September 20, 2015, 08:33:24 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10374 on: September 20, 2015, 10:58:52 PM »
@Itsu: Actually, for the best accuracy the scope's horizontal timebase should be set to provide _many_ cycles falling between the middle 8 major divisions on the scope. As many as you can count comfortably. Analog scopes will always have a little distortion -- if you look carefully, a signal of constant frequency will look a bit "squeezed" in the very center and a bit "expanded" on the left and right edges. Using the middle 8 graticule markers, and filling those 8 divisions with as many cycles as can be easily counted, will minimize errors caused by this non-linearity and also by the "estimating" of partial cycles.

@Nick: To make it easier to calculate, please use the horizontal Position control to place a peak, or a zero-crossing, _exactly_ on the second graticule line from the left.

This is really an easy computation to make. There is no need to use some web-based calculator that works only on a single cycle. It is just a matter of counting how many cycles appear in how much time.  Hz = Cycles per second, and "per" means division.   So for example if you have 18 full cycles PER 4 microseconds, that is 18/0.000004 = 4500000 cycles per second, or 4.5 MHz.  Or, as in this case, I see 7.1 or perhaps a tiny bit less cycles in 8 divisions (8 x 0.5 us/div) or 4 microseconds, so 7.1 / 0.000004 = 1775000 Hz or about 1.78 MHz.

Right, i did not know about this distortion on analog scopes, but its logical when using a crt.
So then its better to use here many cycles over a longer stretch.
The better accuracy with less cycles that i was talking about was because you can better count the sections inbetween the
peaks, but then we need to have an undistorted scope picture in the first place.

Anyway, i guess Nick will know by now how to roughly calculate the frequency of his coils.

Regards itsu

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« Reply #10375 on: September 20, 2015, 11:27:46 PM »
  What I am getting better at is winding this Kacher's secondary coil. I just rewound it again, taking out a few more yards of the  mag wire, and further spanning out all the turns.  Going for 2.4Mhz.  We'll see.  I'm connecting it back up now.
    Since it's very important to get this secondary wound just right, as any touching of one wire turn to the next one changes things.
 
   What makes doing the math easier for me right now, is keeping the scope setting the same each time, until I get the hang of it.
I also know about more waves peaks on the screen making for a more accurate readings. And, I'll do that, also.
  More shots soon.

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« Reply #10376 on: September 21, 2015, 05:20:40 PM »
  Here's my latest Kacher secondary coil re-wind, with a few less turns, and more spacing spread.
  Scope is on the same setting as before, .5us/Div. I count about 5 .1us sections. For 2Mhz,  correct?
If it's more like 4.5 us then it would be back to the 2.2Mhz, so it something like in that range. I may remove more turns to get it up to 2.4Mhz, if possible.  Opinion?
  Second shot is of the same thing, but using 2 sec/Div setting, and Vol/Div setting a the 10x probe setting on 2, for higher accuracy.
  I'm still obtaining a fairly good output to the CFL bulb, and it lights to about 11 inches away from the antenna.
  Sorry for the blurry pictures, I'll do better next time.
   
   For the First Time, there is an increase in gain, when the Kacher is activated, which can also be observed on the scope, and a corresponding brighter output at the bulbs. Still not much additional brightness on the bulb, but, it's a start, like seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

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« Reply #10377 on: September 21, 2015, 07:01:15 PM »
@Nick:

The second image isn't really useful. One must be able to see the entire waveform easily (peak locations, zero crossings) and not have _too_ many cycles to count easily! (And I doubt that the timebase is set to "2 seconds per division". With a 2 MHz signal at 2 secs per division you would just see a solid band, no cycles would be visible.)

Here's my reading of the first image.

 

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« Reply #10378 on: September 21, 2015, 09:51:08 PM »
   TK:
  Ok, thanks again. I think that I've past it this time, and I may need to add some turns back to bring it down to 2.4Mhz. As I'm also seeing less light at the CFL, and no HV stream, only a 1mm spark at the antenna.
  The first of the two last images is .5us/Div like before, and should be correct at 2.5Mhz, or so. 
I'm going to stay at that 0.5us setting for now.
 
   The 24khz signal that my Mazilli is putting out, needs a 1:100 ratio with the Kacher circuit running at 2.4Mhz. And 100khz bandwidth window is all that the Kacher signal can vary, or it won't sync up. At least as I understand it.
 

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« Reply #10379 on: September 21, 2015, 10:08:24 PM »
   TK:
  Ok, thanks again. I think that I've past it this time, and I may need to add some turns back to bring it down to 2.4Mhz. As I'm also seeing less light at the CFL, and no HV stream, only a 1mm spark at the antenna.
  The first of the two last images is .5us/Div like before, and should be correct at 2.5Mhz, or so. 
I'm going to stay at that 0.5us setting for now.
 
   The 24khz signal that my Mazilli is putting out, needs a 1:100 ratio with the Kacher circuit running at 2.4Mhz. And 100khz bandwidth window is all that the Kacher signal can vary, or it won't sync up. At least as I understand it.
 
If you now slide your ferrite bits into the Kacher core the frequency will decrease, because the inductance increases. You may be in a range now where you can "tune" your Kacher to the frequency you want, by changing the inductance this way, instead of removing/adding turns.

 

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