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gadgetmall

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #345 on: October 08, 2012, 10:49:23 PM »
I bet Bill could find out what is going on .I hear he is one of the best Pi's out there .I will ask him and get to the bottom of this "mystery"..

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #347 on: October 09, 2012, 02:35:42 PM »
It seems that it is that with some variations.


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #348 on: October 10, 2012, 01:40:48 AM »
How many times have we seen this?
How many variations? (everyone is still waiting for the Magna Coaster device they paid for)
I have seen many such devices (i even checked out Sterling's one in South Africa)
here is a clue, its what we call the battery effect, fools a few people sometimes.
Run it on some caps or run it closed loop.
i know I am the bad guy bearer of bad news.
It a bugger having science and the laws of physics on my side.
However love the experiments lal you guys do
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #349 on: October 10, 2012, 01:41:56 AM »
PS I am sad to hear about the accident , no one deserves that to happen to them.
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mark

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #350 on: October 10, 2012, 03:22:15 AM »
I don't think it's like the link penno64 showed much at all.  I think it's more related to the concepts started in this message thread by Peter Lindemann here:  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12346-mechanical-devices-energy-gain.html

There have been a number of systems that seem to show energy gain using those concepts including the blind Peruvian Inventor's device and Chas Campbell system in Patrick Kelly's book.  Chas isn't asking for anything and having seen his video's I have no reason to believe it doesn't work.  It can be looped as his starts on AC - no battery and can be switched to self run.  There are other examples too but most seem to disappear for one reason or another....

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #352 on: October 10, 2012, 04:54:26 PM »
Hi People,

An old claim: consult patent WO 2004/091083 A1 (attached file).

YILDIZ Muammer
"A SYSTEM WICH GENERATES ELECTRICAL POWER VIA AN ACCUMULATOR
THAT PROVIDES THE INITIAL MOTION FOR THE SYSTEM"

Please note that there is a thread in this forum about another YILDIZ Muammer's device
(a self running permanent magnet motor). This one was deemed as a scam.


Anyway, the fig 2 of the patent is showing similar setup..

Very Best,
Jean

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #354 on: October 10, 2012, 06:57:18 PM »
Hi GyulaSun and People,

Thanks a lot for these patents.


The common denominator is that some individuals were crazy/ignorant/fool/else? enough to dare to connect an electric motor to an electric generator.  ;D

Most of time a generator is geared to an internal combustion engine a wind mill,  a wind turbine.. Etc..

Theoretically this cannot work, of course.
What if, provided some 'tricks' (= gearing/motor/generator modifications?),
it practically can (with all due respect to Tinsel..., Alseta...)? :P

You want more funny patents? What about:
BE438189 
BE754918
BE879579 
(Attached file)

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Jean

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #355 on: October 10, 2012, 09:54:02 PM »
As long as a battery is in the circuit NiCad or LeadAcid we might have to deal with an effect described in this yt video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVOBNp_91io
and confirmed by Naudin: (the motor run with 0 Volts)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/scalchrg.htm
and it depends on the battery effect it will not run without a battery !!


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #356 on: October 11, 2012, 02:42:47 AM »
Here's another case of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics going down the toilet:
Ash started a thread here on this but I mention it here because it's another situation where an electric motor is running a generator that becomes self powered once it's started and puts out huge excesses of power.  They already have prices up for the larger units.  I truly hope this is real as they say it can be used in cars as well as for home power.   They have prices on 1.5 Megawatt units and up and those prices are apparently a lot less than what it would cost in solar, wind, coal, nuclear etc. 
 http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/index.php
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http://www.cogarinternationalenergy.com/prototype-demonstration.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v7dwcM83Do&feature=related

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #357 on: October 11, 2012, 12:14:21 PM »
Hi e2matrix,

Any change you could provide a link for the thread to which you refered in your previous post?

Thanks!

JJUK


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #359 on: October 11, 2012, 01:14:28 PM »
Thanks Gyula  :)