Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower (Read 268387 times)

TheCell · « **Reply #270 on:** September 25, 2012, 12:29:40 PM »

Or, gearing up, then gearing down, then back up again has some mystical effects on power. ;]
yes with a big mass beeing revved up. - But someone important should comfirm it; it would be a reason to start..

gadgetmall · « **Reply #271 on:** September 25, 2012, 01:14:59 PM »

@Vortex ..Does it work at Shown .I assume it does . IF it does will it run it self at the very minimum with that ac motor powering the Gen head.. this is also something i had planned to do and looks like you got a nice setup .

b_rads · « **Reply #272 on:** September 25, 2012, 03:54:19 PM »

@all,
Got to thinking last night about all of this and came up with something to look at while awaiting more information. I am building a demonstration unit for the local elementary school that shows solar, wind, and battery charging (alternative energies). I am using a small motor recycled from an old cd/dvd drive. Some of these drives have three motors, spin the cd/dvd, move the read/wright head, and open and close the drive. Looking at the motor that opens and closes the drive, you can see a belt and pulleys as well as a series of gears. This tiny motor, directly connected should probably not be able to perform this function, but using the pulley and gear system it actually creates quite a bit of power. This motor can operate on 1 Â½ volts and 20 mA. There might be something to belts and gears in combination.

Reminds me, 30 to 40 years ago when involved with the mini-bikes and go-carts. We would change out the sprockets for different power and speed ratios. Also the multi-speed bicycles, low gear has great power and high gear for speed.

Brad S

Vortex1 · « **Reply #273 on:** September 25, 2012, 04:14:29 PM »

Quote from: gadgetmall on September 25, 2012, 01:14:59 PM

@Vortex ..Does it work at Shown .I assume it does . IF it does will it run it self at the very minimum with that ac motor powering the Gen head.. this is also something i had planned to do and looks like you got a nice setup .

The drive motor is 120 VAC, the three phase motor/gen is 208 VAC. We never tried looping it but measured the losses when driving from 120 V, which were as expected, belt losses, IsqR losses in the copper wire, bearing friction etc.

e2matrix · « **Reply #274 on:** September 25, 2012, 07:28:52 PM »

Anyone who has been verified for Team McGeorge but who has not received an email from me this morning (or afternoon - roughly sent out 1:00 PM Eastern Time) please send me an email at oumot22 at gmail dot com

gotoluc · « **Reply #275 on:** September 25, 2012, 09:38:41 PM »

Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on September 25, 2012, 03:10:48 AM

Hi folks, Hi gadget, there is no them, there is only us, that maybe is one of the things humanity needs to learn.
If you fight another, you are fighting yourself.
The human garment (body) is used to experience the perception of separation, their truly is no separation of anything, even if the object seems inanimate.
A tree branch would not battle with another tree branch, for it knows it is one and the same.
Though a tree branch has it somewhat easier, as it can see the root from where it comes from, where as, our roots are not as visible to the human eye.
And if we all could see these energetic roots, we would never think about harming another, which is ourselves, no matter what illusion is cast before our eyes.
You speak of the government taking away rights, we have done that to ourselves, by believing we are all separate, they have only used this ignorance to their advantage.
Forgive that link i posted, as before, they did not have all those deceptive link buttons.
Hope that pdf had some value to it.
peace love light
tyson

Hi Tyson,

I like your post and have reply to it in a new topic to avoid off topic clutter.

Please use this link to read my reply: http://www.overunity.com/12756/explanation-of-god/msg337729/#msg337729

Luc

gyulasun · « **Reply #276 on:** September 25, 2012, 10:51:50 PM »

Hi Vince,

That is ok, thanks.

Gyula

Quote from: vince on September 24, 2012, 08:25:16 PM

@ Gyulasun,

So Sorry Gyula

For some reason I had Gotoluc in my memory and mixed you two up. I Apologize!
It was indeed you that gave me the info.
Thanks

Vince

vince · « **Reply #277 on:** September 25, 2012, 11:02:57 PM »

I'm not sure what's happening to this thread with the new direction it's taking so I'll continue here as I am not yet part of the new group discussion.
Just a little info I would like to share that was quite eye opening to me.

That little fan motor we've been discussing packs quite a punch! I did a test to determine horsepower and I didn't expect the results.

My little motor turns 5340 rpm no load
With a torque arm of 12" (1 ft) and full stall the motor pushed the scale to just over 1Lb.
That amounts to a torque of 1 ft/lb at full stall.
Hp=Torque(ft/lb) x RPM / 5252
HP=1(ft/lb) x 5340 / 5252
HP = 1.0129

For those of you that like electric powered bicycles and such this could be a real cheap solution for you!
Its got plenty of power for that task.

I'm not sure 1HP is enough to turn a big generator that is rated for substantially more so the magic has to be in the details!
I will try a bigger motor when and if I get more details .

Vince

Magluvin · « **Reply #278 on:** September 25, 2012, 11:50:29 PM »

Quote from: vince on September 25, 2012, 11:02:57 PM

I'm not sure what's happening to this thread with the new direction it's taking so I'll continue here as I am not yet part of the new group discussion.
Just a little info I would like to share that was quite eye opening to me.

That little fan motor we've been discussing packs quite a punch! I did a test to determine horsepower and I didn't expect the results.

My little motor turns 5340 rpm no load
With a torque arm of 12" (1 ft) and full stall the motor pushed the scale to just over 1Lb.
That amounts to a torque of 1 ft/lb at full stall.
Hp=Torque(ft/lb) x RPM / 5252
HP=1(ft/lb) x 5340 / 5252
HP = 1.0129

For those of you that like electric powered bicycles and such this could be a real cheap solution for you!
Its got plenty of power for that task.

I'm not sure 1HP is enough to turn a big generator that is rated for substantially more so the magic has to be in the details!
I will try a bigger motor when and if I get more details .

Vince

Very cool. ;] So it is possible at low rpms to get 1hp. Figure rpm being something 'above' stall speed.

I learned that from researching electric car conversions. These guys just put it in 3rd or 4th and hit the pedal. Tons of torque at the bottom end of dc motors.

Very nice work you did there. ;]

As for a bike motor, if the amps are like 30 at or near stall or more, better to go bldc brush less.

MaGs

vince · « **Reply #279 on:** September 26, 2012, 12:00:52 AM »

Nice bike!
Is that the motor in the front wheel hub?

Vince

FatBird · « **Reply #280 on:** September 26, 2012, 12:15:45 AM »

@ Vince, Thank you for sharing your work & photos. SUPER PROFESSIONAL JOB on calculating the HP for that fan motor.

@ Team Leaders, Great setup on that new Group site. For security I won't mention the name of it.
I especially like how easy it is to view the photos. Personally, I really like it.
If we all just include our O/U handle whenever we make a post, we can know who is who. I just did.

Thank you again Team Leaders for all of your work & endurance on this project.

Magluvin · « **Reply #281 on:** September 26, 2012, 12:34:55 AM »

Quote from: vince on September 26, 2012, 12:00:52 AM

Nice bike!
Is that the motor in the front wheel hub?

Vince

Yes. The first is a 'brushed' motor. 36v. But my brushes wore out. The cause of the brushes wearing quickly was a bad solder on one of the windings. As the brush contacted that commutator that had one leg of a winding not connected, there was heavy arching there.

The second is brush less, using a hall sensor for controller timing if I think its 54 coil sections made of 3 separate windings. The coils are mounted to the axle hub and are stationary and the outer rim of the casing has 54 magnets about 1/8 x 1/2 x 1 inch. So multiply the torque of one coil, pushing on 1 magnet and pulling on another and times that by the total, well something like that. It spins the tire with me on it and does 25 mph.

I read that gas may go to 7 to 8 $ per gal soon.

I also have a Wavecrest Tidalforce. i dont have pics here of that one but its on the web. looks like BIG motor in each wheel but the front holds 3 nickle metal hydride D cells capable of 100 amps peak.

Just downloaded a web pic. ;]

Mags

Magluvin · « **Reply #282 on:** September 26, 2012, 12:45:52 AM »

And this is the bad boy. bout 10 grand, 50 mph and 50 miles per charge.

MaGs

gadgetmall · « **Reply #283 on:** September 26, 2012, 01:07:53 AM »

Quote from: Magluvin on September 26, 2012, 12:45:52 AM

And this is the bad boy. bout 10 grand, 50 mph and 50 miles per charge.

MaGs

Hey Mags they would ticket you here for that last one .It looks too much like a dirt bike.

you would have to put tags and lights and get it inspected if it capable of going over 30mph in Nc .
I live in the country and we used to be able to ride golf carts on side of the road . now they give you tickets if it does not have Inspection sticker and all the lights ..they go less than 30 most of the time.

Thaelin · « **Reply #284 on:** September 26, 2012, 01:07:56 AM »

Just ran into the thread, just curious if there are any more
spots open? Been looking for a way to run a tandem bike
of around 500 watts.
Have no prob with the build price and time.

thay

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