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Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower  (Read 210837 times)

Offline nievesoliveras

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #240 on: September 24, 2012, 11:18:32 AM »
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I am @nievesoliveras I can help with the diagrams needed in the project.
 
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #241 on: September 24, 2012, 01:48:57 PM »
Hi

Just been thinking, is it possible to have a section on the forum that is restricted to team members only. This would allow the team to talk without worrying about divulging restricted information.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #242 on: September 24, 2012, 02:32:27 PM »
Hi folks, this topic reminded me of a web page from garry stanley some time ago and i had it saved.
He tested a 19 volt-15 amp motor and coupled it to a 50 volt motor used as a generator and was getting interesting results as well.
What he noticed based on his article, was that the load used by the generator, seemed to be a key to exceeding the threshold, he was using two 12 volt in series gel cell to drive motor and one large regular lead acid 12 volt to charge.
Here is a pic that was in the article, which was called, "Believe it or not".

I can put the article with pictures into a word or pdf file if people can't find it anywhere on net and want to see it.
Otherwise, i have a few things i could use to try and run some tests, though what really is the point, if very little information is going to be shared, is this just another secret society in formation.
peace love light
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #242 on: September 24, 2012, 02:32:27 PM »
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #243 on: September 24, 2012, 02:40:02 PM »
Hi

Just been thinking, is it possible to have a section on the forum that is restricted to team members only. This would allow the team to talk without worrying about divulging restricted information.

Regards

Chas
Hi Chas
inventacom was happy for you to discuss your own work and ideas taken from his information.
As I understand it he didn't want his personal information posted directly on this forum.
I think I've got that right.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #244 on: September 24, 2012, 03:11:44 PM »
Click on the Link below to read about the Kipper Motor Generator that was SELF RUNNING.

==>   One IMPORTANT THING is that it took PATIENCE & TIME for it to start running overunity!!!!
 
http://www.teslatech.info/tttechspec/energy/kipperplan.pdf
 

IMPORTANT:  Please re-read what is said in the PDF File about the WIRE LOOPS being the most important part of it.
                     Is it possible the Loops of Wire enabled it to tap into Zero Point Energy???
 

==>  The Motor Generator SPEEDED UP when the Load was increased.  See Page 4 of the PDF, 2nd paragraph from the end!!!!
 

 
 
« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 07:25:15 PM by FatBird »

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #245 on: September 24, 2012, 04:11:12 PM »
quote from inventacom says "motor that has to be fed from initial batt start to being run from converter. There is a certain setup in controls to achieve this as well as recharging the batt. Once the battery reaches a full full charge capacity, the battery is cut off and the converter becomes the main dc power source. The converter is connected to the gen head.  When the gen head reaches the correct rpms, the converter is powered on which then recharges the batt and then takes over to run dc motor. The unit then runs in a circle from gen head to converter to dc motor that provides the needed rpms to gen head "

So the Gen head feeds converter/battery charger which feeds fan motor .

I see we need to know which fan motor it is .All the fan motors  i am seeing don't give rpm or amps. It looks massive like a house fan size in the pics from inventacom.
 I might just get this gen head on credit though because of the low rpms needed , been wanting one like this for a long time for ham station/house  backup . i got plenty of motors ..

I don't know if this horsepower to kilowatt conversion  chart is useful or not :
http://calculator-converter.com/converter_metric_horsepower_to_kilowatt_hp_to_kw_calculator.php

@gadget & Ematrix Thanks for the email, I've got the files :)

@gadget I've got a fan motor from a company but it isn't listed in their current stock models but this one shows rpm's and amps as well as the torque.

A generator of the size that inventacom uses requires an engine with the following specs to run it:

Engine Minimum 11 hp
Engine Speed 3540-3720 RPM
Torque 16 ft-lbs

This is where I'm in agreement with Vince that even with the secret sauce you can't convert the fan motor's inadequate torque to meet the generator's demand even if you geared it to reach it's lowest rpm's requirement.

16 ft-lbs = 3072 oz.in and as you can see on the graph in the picture the more you load the fan motor you get less rpm and more amps required and that is just at approximately 1/30th of the required torque!

As far as I can see you'd need a much bigger fan motor than the one I'm looking at :P

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Paul

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #246 on: September 24, 2012, 05:00:29 PM »
Hi folks, Hi fatbird, that kipper setup almost looks similar to what garry stanley was testing, using batteries.
I converted the html into a pdf, in hopes that it may shed more light on this device topic, which i find intriguing.
Here is a download link to Garry Stanley pdf.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ivbbzx
peace love light
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #247 on: September 24, 2012, 05:32:58 PM »
More testing! Isolation and voltage regulation. (Thanks Gotoluc)

I changed the generator to a 90 volt .3 amp dc motor to see if
I could isolate the power for a future feed back.  I know the motor is on the small size but this is just to prove that isolation is possible without killing the source. Gotoluc had suggested reverse feeding a ac computer power supply with dc to match voltage to the load and isolate them from each other. Hey Gotoluc you were right! it will reverse feed and output corrected voltage
 With the smaller motor acting as a generator it will easily spin up to design rpm and the little fan is running at load rpm 1700.  The generator puts out about 139 volts and thru the power supply in reverse and it puts out 12.1 volts while the fan motor is drawing about 6 amps 12volts. I can power another load now without the fan motor dying. I tried loping it back to the fan feed and got a few extra rpm out of the motor but the generator does not produce enough current to sustain the drive motor.

Hope I'm not boring anyone, with all these tests!

Vince

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #248 on: September 24, 2012, 06:44:46 PM »
@ Skywatcher,   That download site wants to download a dangerous executable file before it will download your PDF.
                          Please post that PDF file right here on this thread, just as if it is a picture.  Thank you for sharing sir.
 
 
@ Vince,  Thank you for sharing your setup pictures.  Another thing you might want to try is to couple the shafts of 2 identical Radiator
                Fan Motors, using a piece of hose, shaft to shaft.  One would be the drive motor, & the other the Gen.  The output will be
                DC, but there is nothing wrong with DC.  A cheap 12V to 120V Inverter can produce the AC, if & when needed.  LOL
 
                Vince, the reason your picture above isn't showing up is because it's over 600 pixels.
 
 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #249 on: September 24, 2012, 06:50:52 PM »
Hi Vince,

I apologize to ask: Did Gotoluc tell you the isolation and voltage regulation on some of the forum threads or maybe privately?
Because yesterday I wrote to you the same as an answer to your question (including the PC power supply) in this thread here:
http://www.overunity.com/12724/free-electric-multi-use-motor-home-gen-car-motor-boat-motor-lawn-mower/msg337337/#msg337337

I do not mean to grab credit from Gotoluc, his excellent activity is known for years here and on other forums and of course I do not look for "fame" with this notice either.   :) 8)

Keep up your good work!

Greetings,  Gyula

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #250 on: September 24, 2012, 07:25:07 PM »
Hi all-

Just going to post my skillset as requested:

PC Geek (Support Analyst by trade)
Backyard Mechanic
Magnet Fanatic
pretty bright guy
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #251 on: September 24, 2012, 07:27:07 PM »
Click on the Link below to read about the Kipper Motor Generator that was SELF RUNNING.

==>   One IMPORTANT THING is that it took PATIENCE & TIME for it to start running overunity!!!!
 
http://www.teslatech.info/tttechspec/energy/kipperplan.pdf
 
If you look close, you can see his motor & generator sitting vertically in a box with their pulleys pointing up.

IMPORTANT:  Please re-read what is said in the PDF File about the WIRE LOOPS being the most important part of it.
                     Is it possible the Loops of Wire enabled it to tap into Zero Point Energy???
 

==>  Page 4 of the PDF, 2nd paragraph from the end, the greater the Load, the FASTER IT TURNED!!!!

Hi Fatbird,  I had looked into that Kipper motor a while back and found enough evidence by others to consider it a fake.  He apparently was transmitting power to it from nearby - in one case from his truck when they did a test out in the desert or away from any civilization.   I also met and know Steve Elswick (the magazine owner that article was in) and consider him just an opportunist making money of promoting anything that looks like free energy - no matter if it's real or not.   Elswick has in some ways done some good things promoting FE but I don't believe he has an interest in whether something is real or not. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #252 on: September 24, 2012, 07:30:18 PM »
@ Skywatcher,   That download site wants to download a dangerous executable file before it will download your PDF.
                          Please post that PDF file right here on this thread, just as if it is a picture.  Thank you for sharing sir.
 
 
@ Vince,  Thank you for sharing your setup pictures.  Another thing you might want to try is to couple the shafts of 2 identical Radiator
                Fan Motors, using a piece of hose, shaft to shaft.  One would be the drive motor, & the other the Gen.  The output will be
                DC, but there is nothing wrong with DC.  A cheap 12V to 120V Inverter can produce the AC, if & when needed.  LOL
 
                Vince, the reason your picture above isn't showing up is because it's over 600 pixels.

Actually that page is typical of a lot of download sites.  They put up several download buttons and many of them try to get you to download an executable which may be dangerous and at best worthless.  They are usually the bigger more obvious download buttons.

    But his file IS THERE in the smaller blue centered link to be downloaded without any executables. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #253 on: September 24, 2012, 08:09:05 PM »
Vince No it is Very Interesting information and not boring at all .

Thanks fatBird !

Goat . I have Seen Stranger Things .

Thanks for the head up E2matrix . wa just getting ready to hit one of those buttons !
It is the one that says Click here to start download from sendspace

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #254 on: September 24, 2012, 08:25:16 PM »
@ Gyulasun,

 So Sorry Gyula

For some reason I had Gotluc in my memory and mixed you two up. I Apologize!
It was indeed you that gave me the info.
Thanks

Vince

 

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