Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower (Read 252229 times)

e2matrix · « **Reply #180 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:00:08 PM »

Thanks Inventacom for that pic and explanation. I do believe those radiator fan motors are part of the key. I have a couple questions but will hold off on them until I get the files from gadgetmall as they may have the answers.

gadgetmall did you get my email yet I sent to earthlink?

gadgetmall · « **Reply #181 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:08:27 PM »

E2matrix . On the way . Sorting usernames and related emails of verified ..

Any Verified Team Member be sure to include you USERNAME with your emails

Any Team Member that did not get a verified email either the username is missing or no verification email was sent to

gadgetmall@earthlink.net

Or i am still processing them ..
you are flagged on my end if you were sent Verified return Email

thanks

gadget

Magluvin · « **Reply #182 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:34:28 PM »

Quote from: e2matrix on September 23, 2012, 09:00:08 PM

Thanks Inventacom for that pic and explanation. I do believe those radiator fan motors are part of the key.

What would this mean if it is? Does it mean that some automotive fan motors are OU?

I have a few different ones that i saved from replacements where the motor is ok but another component(large resistor, speed control circuit) that is incorporated in the framework of the fan goes bad and only the whole unit is available. I replaced my Fiero cooling fan with one from a Volvo, one that was as I described had other issues and the fan was ok, and it cools much better at about the same draw at 12v.

But if the motors are not OU, then profiling the best motor of them all would be a good idea, to get the best of the best for best results.

Also, if motor isnt OU, then is the generator ou? OR, is the gear down/up between the 2 somehow cause some kind of power shift in order to provide more out in the end?
It seems like those kinds of things have been well studied and documented. hmm

Finally, there is the difference in the motor and gen operating rpms and power requirements, electrical and mechanical inputs.

Say if one uses a motor and gen combo that operate at the same rpms normally and are connected as such, a 1 to 1 ratio gearing. If the motor is say to be on the high side 80% eff and the gen 85%, we are around a 35% loss.

But I never thought of using a high rpm motor to run a low rpm gen.

This is a strange thought. Lets say for example our motor is 4000 rpm and the gen needs 1000 rpm for simplicity. Now lets say the motor at 4000 rpm is 1hp and the gen needs 2 hp at 1000 rpm. Well if we gear it down from the motor, are we getting 4 hp at 1000 rpm available at the gen ?

Strange thought isnt it?

The rpm conversion seems to be key. Like if I just told you that I was powering a gen that needs 2hp with a 1hp motor, would you think Im nuts? ;]

Without either the motor or the gen being ou, this is the only thing I can come up with, for now.

MaGs is in the house ;]

gadgetmall · « **Reply #183 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:39:45 PM »

Hi Mags Some key elements are in the files being sent.. stand by ..
Lots of work on this end to keep it in the team .
I only glanced at them and have not had time to read any post here yet ..

E2matrix now has some of the verified email address's and usernames so the files are going out to Team members Verified so far..

penno64 · « **Reply #184 on:** September 23, 2012, 09:57:11 PM »

Hi all,

Just a quick email to show appreciation to E2 and Gadget.

I can appreciate just how much extra work it is to corordinate this entire exercise.

So, on behalf of all of us, a BIG THANKYOU!

Cheers, Penno

gadgetmall · « **Reply #185 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:10:26 PM »

Thanks:)

Anyone who has NOT received a verification Email please resend as stated in previous Post to gadgetmall AT earthlink.net with the required information AND Your OU username ..

you will be Verified when you get an email saying you are verified..

Whew... Wiping Sweat here

gadget

gadgetmall · « **Reply #186 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:21:18 PM »

Thanks:)

Anyone who has NOT received a verification Email please resend as stated in previous Post #167

ONLY VERIFICATION EMAILS RIGHT NOW AS THERE ARE QUITE A FEW !

Whew... Wiping Sweat here but i think most of the team has looked at inventacom's media .

gadget

e2matrix · « **Reply #187 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:25:37 PM »

Yep it's turning into a bit more work than I expected so far but I'm fine with helping out as long as I can keep out of trouble with the other half

I just sent out the info for verified members I've gotten so far from gadgetmall with links to the encrypted file and a password for it. I'm using 2 comptuers so far to do this. Got lunch just put in front of me so I'll be off a few minutes. I've got a couple questions on some emails I got from members so I'll be back shortly.

e2matrix · « **Reply #188 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:31:11 PM »

Because of the way I sent this out I'd like to hear from Fatbird as soon as possible that he received the email as this will confirm for me that my setup worked to send out to everyone I have so far.

Fatbird you can just send a brief reply here please that you did or did not receive the file links and pw. Thanks.

e2matrix · « **Reply #189 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:40:53 PM »

Quote from: Magluvin on September 23, 2012, 09:34:28 PM

What would this mean if it is? Does it mean that some automotive fan motors are OU?

I have a few different ones that i saved from replacements where the motor is ok but another component(large resistor, speed control circuit) that is incorporated in the framework of the fan goes bad and only the whole unit is available. I replaced my Fiero cooling fan with one from a Volvo, one that was as I described had other issues and the fan was ok, and it cools much better at about the same draw at 12v.

But if the motors are not OU, then profiling the best motor of them all would be a good idea, to get the best of the best for best results.

Also, if motor isnt OU, then is the generator ou? OR, is the gear down/up between the 2 somehow cause some kind of power shift in order to provide more out in the end?
It seems like those kinds of things have been well studied and documented. hmm

Finally, there is the difference in the motor and gen operating rpms and power requirements, electrical and mechanical inputs.

Say if one uses a motor and gen combo that operate at the same rpms normally and are connected as such, a 1 to 1 ratio gearing. If the motor is say to be on the high side 80% eff and the gen 85%, we are around a 35% loss.

But I never thought of using a high rpm motor to run a low rpm gen.

This is a strange thought. Lets say for example our motor is 4000 rpm and the gen needs 1000 rpm for simplicity. Now lets say the motor at 4000 rpm is 1hp and the gen needs 2 hp at 1000 rpm. Well if we gear it down from the motor, are we getting 4 hp at 1000 rpm available at the gen ? Strange thought isnt it?

The rpm conversion seems to be key. Like if I just told you that I was powering a gen that needs 2hp with a 1hp motor, would you think Im nuts? ;]

Without either the motor or the gen being ou, this is the only thing I can come up with, for now.

MaGs is in the house ;]

Not really sure Mags but that's a theory. I'm still thinking along the lines of some sort of power surge resonance setup caused by slack in the pulley's. belts and gearbox.

penno64 · « **Reply #190 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:42:19 PM »

Hi E2,

I can confirm the mail has arrived but, the PW is incorrect.

Cheers, Penno

e2matrix · « **Reply #191 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:48:51 PM »

Quote from: penno64 on September 23, 2012, 10:42:19 PM

Hi E2,

I can confirm the mail has arrived but, the PW is incorrect.

Cheers, Penno

Hmmm. I tried decrypting my own encrypted file before sending it out and it worked. Please send me the pw you got at :
oumot22 at gmail dot com

gadgetmall · « **Reply #192 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:50:56 PM »

Hi .

I still have a few more to go that are missing information , please read post reply 167 for instructions

Be sure to make the subject line Team McGeorge Verification or i will not get it.

include what was stated in #167

thanks

Gadget

TheCell · « **Reply #193 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:51:01 PM »

Thats right , and sadly my Mobile Phone Account is not configured for paying for the download via [size=78%]http://depositfiles.com[/size]

e2matrix · « **Reply #194 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:54:17 PM »

penno, I just downloaded the files from both servers and verified that the password I sent out works on both. If you copy and pasted the password please check that you don't have an extra space before or after the password. Maybe try typing it in manually too.
There is one other possiblility for a problem if you are in a non English country and don't have a standard English keyboard set it's possible some characters in the password might be interpreted incorrectly.

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