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Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower  (Read 268563 times)

powercat

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #105 on: September 20, 2012, 07:31:16 PM »
hello powercat . At this point in time what has been posted is what the Team Leaders Know.
We ask that anyone who wants in on this project follow his Directive to Email him first as No One outside of this team will allow any Media other than what you produce to be Public . The reasons are stated By inventacom .
He does not want to Fix the world's problems and just a few who Abide By this agreement are allowed to participate .
 Here is what we know that is stated
As i said this what our plans are . to replicate his Invention and any improvements we see are needed we do but are the Concept and design are credited to Inventacom .

If you feel it is a waste of time that is understandable and only the persons in the team will pursue it anyways without Bias .If it turns out to be too expensive then i guess we will pay our light bill:)

look like Initial cost might be as low as a couple of thousand to as high as 10,000.00 i would estimate . Depends on how handy you are and the connections with Salvage yards ,business closeouts etc....

Anymore question simple cannot be answered at this time until we receive that information for team members.
we will know who you are if you are in the team.
if i missed anything please reread the forum for that info  .

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gadget

Hi gadget
It is not the first time we have seen this type of motor combination, let's hope this time there is something unique.
I'm glad to hear you will be posting your own replication results for all to see.
The only way is replication and replication of the result of free energy then we can all make one.

Good luck gadget

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #106 on: September 20, 2012, 07:45:03 PM »
I know its not the first time either power cat if you reread this forum you see i am also critical  but he has followed through so far and gave no reason to really Doubt . time will tell and as i said all who are willing to work this way can join in .

If i Have enough of those parts NOT YET LISTED i might build it if i live that long:) I also might not want it shown either on the www or this forum . Yet to be determined ...
And if it turnoust to be a brick wall i can say with no regret that it wasn't me  ;D
Thanks

Gadget ,, .Lunch time .

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #107 on: September 20, 2012, 07:57:58 PM »
Thanks for the TL nomination and I'll accept with the caveat that there may be an occasional day when I can't be on the computer.  I also think gadgetmall is an excellent choice and would also recommend considering DreamThinkBuild if Pirate (also an excellent person for this) is not able to take on this task.   
     I'll post a bit more later but will take this chance to say that while I did post the password here for the first set of pictures I will not be posting it in this thread from now on per inventacom's wishes and after I thought about it I realized anyone good with Google could probably track down the password here once they had the file name as it was also posted here.  So passwords will only be shared via email as will the download links.  I may set up a separate email account to handle this.   To keep this secure as inventacom wishes we may need a protocol for handling email requests.  I'll think about that but it may involve getting a PM on here initially to get a Team Leaders email. 

     Being an older guy I've got a fairly wide range of experience and building abilities.  From electronics as a hobby for over 50 years and Ham Radio to all phases of house construction as well as welding and a small shop with some metal working tools (band saw, drill press).  Oscilloscopes, signal generators, meters of course are part of the arsenal too. 
    More later....  I need to be out for a little while.     I think we are off to a good start with a good group here

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #108 on: September 20, 2012, 10:05:48 PM »
Hello there e2matrix TL. you sound like me . I also hold a armature radio Licenses since before the days of personal computers and the Internet :) I am an X TV /radio / Digital electronics /Computer tech /satellite technician and master as a single Dad who loves Free Energy thinking and building ..I believe in Clean Green Energy and Free for everyone that needs it. Some people are rich and could care less about an electric bill or how much toxic waste they make with motors but i see a better way coming.

I thought about it and i believe it is ok to PM links and passwords rather than get emails although it is also a good idea .
i do not believe i want to deal with everyones email as of yet.. So i will PM the team Members a link and password when i have something to pass.

Gadget
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 12:10:39 AM by gadgetmall »

e2matrix

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #109 on: September 21, 2012, 12:10:01 AM »
Hi gadgetmall,  I'll just toss out my thoughts on the way to get files, videos or pics to everyone securely.  So far what comes to mind as the easiest and quickest for all would be for me to setup an email with an autoresponder so anyone who gets that email here via PM would just send me an email at that address.  If there was new files to share it would immediately reply back to them with any of the latest file links (and password if needed).   That's just my thoughts and I'm entirely open to other ideas but it would mean quick response time any time of the day or night (especially if someone is in another country) and would not involve much work on the part of any team leader for just getting files shared.   I would also probably recommend simply password protecting files with WinZip or similar Zip program since nearly everyone already has an unZipper on their computers and even Linux or Mac computers can work with that format.  I've looked and never found any way to crack a Zip file short of brute force and that can take a fast desktop computer years.   I doubt if we will be up against any serious hackers anyway on this.   Once any of our members have the file and have opened it they could obviously share it with someone else if they wanted by just repacking it so I don't know if there would be reason to try tracking who gets the originals if you see what I mean.  We'll just ask and hope it all stays in the family ;) 
   
      over to you and anyone else who wants to inject thoughts on that  :)

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2012, 12:24:47 AM »
Hi Folks,

I agree with choosing e2matrix and gadgetmall to be group leaders, besides the inventor of course and if needed then Bill too and they all should receive moderator previligies for this thread from Stefan Hartmann.  IF other persons could be named I can think of Groundloop or Clanzer or Wattsup too, maybe they would also be interested.

e2matrix:  your suggestion for getting files securely sounds good and simple to me, I would agree with it.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2012, 12:59:01 AM »
Ok . I used to use a program that does exactly that . you take a file and encode it with a tiny program . the receiver would run a command line program to generate his unique checksum key that is sent to the sender ,the sender adds this checksum to the tiny program which is added to the file   /.. . once that person received the  file his key would open that file . the file would then unzip and unlock for him .the program that is the file  did not allow copy and paste or any function keys to work  and  if he tried to share the file and key to someone else it would not work . i think it was called stanware . used to use it a lot passing files ,disk etc,, anyways thats how we did it to protect our property , A single file can be shared with only the people you want it to go to without a worry that it will be passed . that is how we track a file.

I think i will stick with  pm as a backup to you  . I will upload it to a secure site and Pm the link and passcode but i like the idea of the auto-responder too. we need to get together on  one passcode in Pm .

gadget 

Ps . I invited/nominated  Bill but he has to get Mod status over here from Stephan to moderate . He only moderates joule thief . i don't think it will be a problem and we need him if he accepts .
Of coarse if stephan was here he could moderate it but seems to be MIA :) I like your suggestion too gyula .
the problem if it is a problem is trolling trolleys trolls can easily infiltrate with a newbie account .

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2012, 01:27:58 AM »
It seems that being part of the team is near impossible for us mere mortals. I responded to inventacom right after he posted that we should email him if we were interested but I used his overunity email, so I did it again to his own email. No response!
Is there something I'm doing wrong or is this an exclusive project?
I'm not a troll, just want to try and replicate.

Vince

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #113 on: September 21, 2012, 01:39:28 AM »
It seems that being part of the team is near impossible for us mere mortals. I responded to inventacom right after he posted that we should email him if we were interested but I used his overunity email, so I did it again to his own email. No response!
Is there something I'm doing wrong or is this an exclusive project?
I'm not a troll, just want to try and replicate.

Vince

He Vince . Contact him here : INVENTACOM AT EMBARQMAIL DOT COM if you have it use return a delivery receipt when read when sending it and when he gets it and reads it it will autorespond with a read receipt . make the subject line Team MgGeorge and post your intentions. be sure to replace the at  and dot with symbols

thanks and at this time it appears he is not at the computer .

Gadget

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #114 on: September 21, 2012, 02:01:11 AM »
It seems that being part of the team is near impossible for us mere mortals. I responded to inventacom right after he posted that we should email him if we were interested but I used his overunity email, so I did it again to his own email. No response!
Is there something I'm doing wrong or is this an exclusive project?
I'm not a troll, just want to try and replicate.

Vince

Same here, I'm just watching where this goes.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #115 on: September 21, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »
Ok . I used to use a program that does exactly that . you take a file and encode it with a tiny program . the receiver would run a command line program to generate his unique checksum key that is sent to the sender ,the sender adds this checksum to the tiny program which is added to the file   /.. . once that person received the  file his key would open that file . the file would then unzip and unlock for him .the program that is the file  did not allow copy and paste or any function keys to work  and  if he tried to share the file and key to someone else it would not work . i think it was called stanware . used to use it a lot passing files ,disk etc,, anyways thats how we did it to protect our property , A single file can be shared with only the people you want it to go to without a worry that it will be passed . that is how we track a file.

I think i will stick with  pm as a backup to you  . I will upload it to a secure site and Pm the link and passcode but i like the idea of the auto-responder too. we need to get together on  one passcode in Pm .

gadget 

Ps . I invited/nominated  Bill but he has to get Mod status over here from Stephan to moderate . He only moderates joule thief . i don't think it will be a problem and we need him if he accepts .
Of coarse if stephan was here he could moderate it but seems to be MIA :) I like your suggestion too gyula .
the problem if it is a problem is trolling trolleys trolls can easily infiltrate with a newbie account .
That sounds a lot like PGP with it's keyrings.   Would that work to protect pictures, videos and so on from being spread after a person had them and opened them?  If a person has a picture open would it keep them from doing a print screen to capture it?  In most cases anything that can be displayed in a video or picture can be captured if not by a program than by a decent hacker.  I don't think we have to worry about a level of security much beyond a password protected Zip file because if someone wants this info bad enough they would just sign up at overunity make a couple dozen posts and join in the discussion here.   If what you mention is like PGP or PGP based I think it gets a bit more complex than some might want to deal with and I'll bet some people have never seen DOS or a command line.  I still do things in DOS that can't be done any other way but then I've got every version of DOS since v1.0   ;)

    Very glad to see you here gyula.   Inventacom may not know your level of expertise yet so I'll say anyone who's been around here a while knows you are one of the true component and circuit geniuses. 

    If anyone else has thoughts on methods for the file sharing please let us know.  Inventacom will of course have the final say. 

   

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #116 on: September 21, 2012, 02:22:38 AM »
I'm just guessing but he did mention he had none of the info in his computer and had to get some things scanned in at someone else's place so I'll assume he will be here later or tomorrow with more info.   So for now he may not be able to respond to email readily. 

    I'm going to post a couple questions for Inventacom which can hopefully be answered with some clarity to help keep everyone here interested and to help answer some things that I'm sure are buzzing in a lot of minds right now. 

1.  Once the device is started can it self run keeping both the battery charged (if it is still in the system) and provide external power to a home, car or devices without any other external source of input (such as fuel, external electrical power etc.)?  This of course does not include Zero point energy or other unseen energy that may be entering the system somehow. 

2.  If it is COP > 1 or overunity or free energy (and yes we all know those definitions are open to interpretation and much confusion but for basic discussion I'm sure everyone knows what the intention is with this question) is there a theory or known way as to how this is getting extra power?   If not we will work on that but if it is known I believe it will help reinforce interest in replications.

3.  My own question because I think there is a possibility this may be similar to a couple other devices I know of -- what is the approximate weight and diameter of the pulley that goes on the fan motor?  And is there some slack in the belt that goes to the the generator or is it fairly tight? 

4.  If I'm correct about the generator I see in the pictures I think those need to turn at around 3600 RPM to produce 120 volt AC.  Is that close to the speed this runs? 

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« Reply #117 on: September 21, 2012, 02:35:33 AM »
E2matrix . Well it is like pgp except this program generates files to an EXE . when executed you enter your key . the program opens up whatever pictures videos text inside this tiny program . You are the able to view the files but the functions are disabled like print screen or copy and paste and will not allow you to make a copy that way . if the file is sent out of group with a copied key it will not open . Yes it is like a Shell type PGP . it is very powerful in that you can make Disk copies and send them to some one and they have a password . but also they cannot copy the disk . it was pretty neat but a hassle here i thinks . they have a new method really complicated called Multicast Encryption also .Like your satellite dish   except Internet based with unique keys that can be changed on the fly by the sender .  I know all the guys here really want to see it like normal but this is not normal .  this it is thought out pretty well to keep it out of the www but into a team .

Anyways we just need something to pass so we are waiting also guys . hang in there..

Edit :posted same time e2matrix and thank you for those Good Questions we all need to know .
I am Bushed and need a break from this screen and can't think properly and take it from here tonight if you can .
If any late breaking News arrives i will alert the team . I am up at 5am est so i think we might have an answer soon !
so with that lets ponder on the past inventions akin to this one  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwQt1tJYa8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM&;feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&;feature=endscreen&;v=InZ9XtiKpXo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl57y-c_bWc&;feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h41oenbUGsE&;feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG9chgbbweQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen&list=ULnhYAlh5Meuw
and this thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4m1MLZudE&;feature=related
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 03:52:42 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #118 on: September 21, 2012, 03:51:47 AM »
E2matrix . Well it is like pgp except this program generates files to an EXE . when excicuted you enter your key . the program opens up whatever pictures videos text inside this tiny program . You are the able to view the files but the functions are disabled like print screen or copy and paste and will not allow you to make a copy that way . if the file is sent out of group with a copied key it will not open .

What about 'screen capture?  ;]

Well it seems like things are moving along here. ;]

Looks like we are in for the "long haul".  I hope its not too long. Just read an article that states that an asteroid will hit Antarctica this fall. They didnt use the word 'might', or 'possibly'. We could sure use 'power packs' if that happens, and head north.  Man, I hope not. Where they do state possibilities is water levels up 70 meters due to Antarctic melt. Where I am, I would have to be 200 to 300 miles north in order to see or be 'on' land if that were to happen. :o The original from http://www.phas.ubc.ca/article was taken down pretty quickly. 2 days.


Good luck guys. Ill be following. ;]

MaGs

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #119 on: September 21, 2012, 03:59:21 AM »
Sounds good gadget.  I think I have or had a proggy like that too at one point.  I collect lot of encryption stuff and if you happen to find it if it's share/freeware I'd be interested in a copy.  Get some rest and take care - I know you had some battles a while back.  No need to overdue yourself here.  I'm usually up late so if anything breaks from Inventacom I'll pass it along. 

    At this point anyone interested in getting any new files or info Inventacom wants kept within the team please wait until something is announced that is available then send me or gadget a PM.  I haven't heard from Inventacom yet so he may have other ideas but most likely we will wait for anything to be shared, interested members will send one of us a PM and I'll respond with the email address to contact where you'll get an auto-reply with links and password.   That's how I plan to do this now unless directed otherwise.