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e2matrix

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2012, 08:44:51 PM »
Inventacom,  If this is possible to replicate by even a couple people here it will have everyone here working to replicate it.  That can be a huge help for you in selling plans to build this or even the device itself.  It's a very very small percent of the general public that is even aware of this site and most people think free energy or overunity or even low cost power generation is ALL fake.  We often get people showing up here asking about Magnetgen.com or teslasecrets.com or other scams that sell expensive plans to build something that simply can't work to supply real world usable power.  However if someone comes here asking about your device and there is even one or two working replications your plan sales or other ways of making money from it could take off like wildfire.  You can bet with the cost of gas and power today that friends will tell friends will tell friends if something really works.   

One other thing that has not been mentioned yet is the official SAWS memo from the U.S. Patent Office.  The text of it is below (it was OCR'd so may not be perfect) and a copy of the official document in PDF with letterhead and seal is attached below.   It is important to read to understand why a patent is a very bad idea for multiple reasons. 
Text:

"UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE

DATE: March 27, 2006
TO: TC 2800 managers
FROM: Janice A. Falcone, Group Director
Sharon Gibson, Group Director
Robert Oberleitner, Group Director
Richard K. Seidel, Group Director
Arthur Grimley, Acting Group Director

Commissioner for Patents
United States Patent and Trademark Ofce
P.O. Box 1450
Alexandria, VA 22313-1450

SUBJECT: Reminder on TC 2800 Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System
- - (SAWS) Program Reminder
This is to remind our personnel that Technology Center 2800 has in place a SAWS program
based on the following guidelines. All TC 2800 managers must remind their examiners of this
program and its implementation.
T Attached is the updated TC 2800 SAWS program. Please review and disseminate.
UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
Commissioner for Patents
United States Patent and Trademark Ofce
P0 BOX 1450
Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
www.uspto.gov
SPECIAL APPLICATION WARNING SYSTEM
(SAWS)
Technology Center 2800
 March 27, 2006
I. PROGRAM OVERVIEW:
The SAWS program was designed to assist in processing of patent applications identified as
claiming subject matter of special interest that, if issued, would potentially generate high
publicity or would potentially have a strong impact in the patent community. It is also an
information gathering system to apprise various segments ofthe USPTO ofthese patent
applications.
This program applies to all pending applications and reexamination proceedings (reexams).
' As a program to assist in processing of patent applications and patents undergoing
reexamination, it is intended to ensure that the examination standards and guidelines are applied
properly to such applications and reexams that include sensitive or noteworthy subject matter.
As an information gathering system, the SAWS program should identify applications and
reexams that, if issued as a patent or reexamination certificate, would be controversial or
. noteworthy. A '
The initial identication of SAWS applications/reexams is performed by the examiners (may
also include managers and classiers). Therefore, it is important that examiners stay informed
about this program and the identication criteria. '
Independent of the SAWS program, examiners are encouraged to bring to their
supervisor's attention any application/reexam that raises issues that they are uncertain
how to handle. Supervisors are responsible for determining which applications/reexams
proceed through the SAWS program versus those applications/reexams having other issues ~
which are normally addressed by existing examination procedures and established
examination/re-examination guidelines. '
11. OPERATIONAL OVERVIEW:
TC 2800 handles the SAWS program based upon a tiered process-of application/reexams
identication. This process relies on Examiners and SPEs to identify these applications/reexams, _
and a SAWS screening committee to verify their status. The SAWS screening committee
comprises the home SPE, at least one of the following managers in the TC 2800 Quality Center:
Management Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System (SAWS) Program
. - 2 -
Cassandra Spyrou, Clayton LaBalle and Hien H. Phan, and another TC 2800 management
ofcial.
Applications/Reexams which have been identied and veried as containing SAWS material are
reported the TC Directors, and as needed, a SAWS memorandum is forwarded to the Deputy
Commissioner for Patent Operations and the Deputy Commissioner for Patent Examination
Policy prior to allowance or forwarded to the Board of Patent Appeals and Interferences (BPAI)
when an appeal is forwarded to the jurisdiction of the BPAI.

A. Technology Center 2800 Practice:
1. Examiners are the rst line of review since they are the most knowledgeable about the
pending claims and application/reexamination issues. Examiners will report potential SAWS
applications/reexams to their SPE. Upon approval of the SPE, the case will be brought by the
SPE to Clayton LaBalle, Cassandra Spyrou or Hien H. Phan for entering the SAWS
l application/reexam number into the TC 28 00 tracking system.
2. Flagging an identied SAWS application/reexam in PALM to ensure that the
application/reexam cannot be allowed or an NIRC issued until the ag has been removed.
3. TC 2800 has established a screening mechanism to remove non—SAWS applications/reexams
from their SAWS designation. This screening mechanism permits a second review and will
result in a recommendation as to whether the application/reexam contains SAWS subject A
matter. The SAWS screening committee will perform the second screening review.
4. Applications/reexams that have been through the TC screening mechanism and have been
identied as SAWS applications/reexams will be brought to the attention of the TC
Directors. The TC Director will bring them to the attention of the Deputy Commissioner for
Patent Operations and the Deputy Commissioner. for Patent Examination Policy.
5. For uniformity and process improvements, a SPRE, QAS, or a SAWS TC-screening
committee must be utilized. A SPRE, QAS, or a ‘SAWS TC-screening committee will be
tasked to periodically review the SAWS processing guidelines and criteria to continually
update and revise the program as needed.
6. Placing a PALM Flag on subject classes, which encompass sensitive subject matter until a
review ofthese cases is performed upon allowance (such as business methods, class 705).
7. A reminder and a11 updated SAWS criteria list will be distributed, at least semi-annually, to
examiners to stress the importance of SAWS application identification. All newly hired
examiners should be made aware of this TC 2800 SAWS program
Management Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System (SAWS) Program
B. Subject matter of special interest in TC 2800
1.  Perpetual motion machines; classes 310 and 290%
2.  Anti-gravity devices
3.  Room temperature superconductivity; class 310
4.  Free energy — Tachyons, etc.
5.  Gain-Assisted Superluminal Light Propagation (faster than the speed of light); class 702, 359
6.  Other matters that violate the general laws of physics; classes 73, 290.
7.  Applications containing claims to subject matter which, if issued, would generate
unfavorable publicity for the USPTO, class 84, 702.
8.  Reexamination proceedings involving patents in litigation and:
The court decision/verdict is subject to review by the Supreme Court
The court decision includes high monetary awards .
The technology and companies involved would likely generate high publicity
C. Corps-wide Potential SAWS"subject Matter ~
1.  Applications with a very old effective fling date (pre-Gatt -- before June 8, 1995) with
broad claim scope.
2.  Application with pioneering scope.
3.  Applications dealing with inventions that, if issued, would potentially generate extensive
publicity.
4.  Applications with objectionable or derogatory subject matter,
5.  Applications with inventions that would harm people or the environment, compromise
national security or public safety.
6.  Directors Ordered reexams except those ordered due to failure to considered timely led
prior art or due to prior art citation under 37 CPR §1.50 1."


mscoffman

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2012, 10:10:05 PM »
One thing that went over well with me is the guy who made an implicit agreement that my
sensitivity to understanding his new method or device should be contingent on my supplying
10% of all future monetary profits made using his plans to a Children’s Charity of my choice.
 
That really affected me and I was ready to do it, until he asked for an e-mail address,
but I can’t think of  a better way for asking for a person to give back for something
whose value they can’t readily currently evaluate… A number of people probably are
out for thievery but not everyone is, and the people you *want* to deal with are not.
 
Once you get the “ideas” out of the way, the *production* part of a device is still
patentable, that is you still have a right to protect your particular product design but
with limited “claims”. Almost every idea known to man has some sort of alternative
development history.
 
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2012, 11:07:20 PM »
Inventacom . Please Don't take me as negative .I see you do understand . You have the Floor sir and our attention with open arms ,puppy dog eyes and Slobber dripping out the side of Mouthes :)

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2012, 12:07:21 AM »
gadgetmall.

I do understand that some people want to be noticed even if they try to offer someone else's stuff as their own and the major let downs after discovery what they had to offer was fake.  For me, I have better things to do with my time, then to waste my time and others. I just want to take my working model and make it awesome. You know, in my very first post, all I asked was how long I should runn and test it before moving forward. That's it.  I'm not claiming to know it all or have the technology our government has in the famous area 51.  Hell, I don't even claim to be smarter than anyone else or pretend I know what people say when they refer to certain things. I am just a modest, back yard inventor who spends his time trying to make what I have better.  I don't spend hour after hour try to replicate their stuff. I take a problem, search my sheds, auto junk yards and other junkyards in search for things I think might do the job I need it to do. I have screwed up often and spend many sleepness nights racking my brains to solve an issue and I work on it until I find something to work. NO! my setup is not complicated to me and It probably won't be to anyone else. Most of the worlds greats ideas came from someone in a garage at home. That's all I am fellows.  I am willing to share it to pull together people who might know more than I and improve what I already have working.  I am a simple man and I ALWAYS think out of the box and simplify it. Not here for judgement. Just help and for the help, You get your own working model if you chose to build it. I have many many different professional trades under my belt and I am very good at all of them. I was a handyman for the last 15 years.  Nothing I can't build whether it's AC, DC, wood, automotive, small engine and so on.  Lets get a think tank together and move forward. OK? everyone in?

I have uploaded the first images of my generator to my computer.  How can I display them to you guys without these images instantly going worldwide on googles images? I also have video. Same ting applies.  I am willing to share with you guys but not the world right now. I want only those of us in this forum to participate.  Tell me how I can do this and we can get started right away.  Thanks

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2012, 12:12:37 AM »
I have uploaded the first images of my generator to my computer.  How can I display them to you guys without these images instantly going worldwide on googles images? I also have video. Same ting applies.  I am willing to share with you guys but not the world right now. I want only those of us in this forum to participate.  Tell me how I can do this and we can get started right away.  Thanks

The only way is to email them, or host them on a site and pm the links to those you wish to see it (and trust they wont share them).

e2matrix

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2012, 12:23:06 AM »
Inventacom - sounds good.  As far as uploading I would suggest uploading them here in a .zip file and put a password on it.  Share the password here in this thread.  Google won't put 2 and 2 together with their image bots nor do they download the zip files here.  Depending on the size of the files you may upload them as an attachment in this thread or may if they are bigger have to go to the Downloads section of the forum.   Just click on the Downloads link  near the top of the page and pick which section applies to upload files (pics, vid's, docs, etc.)  Stefen does seem to have a limit of video file size that seems too small but you might try a bigger one anyway or ask about an exception.  Other possiblities are to upload to many of the free file sharing sites.  Sendspace.com is one that's easy.  rapidshare.com is fairly easy too if you make an account (free).  Just put up any files with a password zipped up and just post the password here. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2012, 12:25:57 AM »
The only way is to email them, or host them on a site and pm the links to those you wish to see it (and trust they wont share them).

Yes, it is a good possibility.  Here is a link to upload files to and include e-mail addresses of those you wish to send the file. The site stores the files for one week, then they delete it. I recommend using password protected ZIP files to upload and you tell the password to who you wish.  Of course this needs you to know the correct e-mail addresses of the members here.

this the site  http://www.mammutmail.com/en/

Of course there maybe simpler solutions, other members here may be able to advise something simpler.

rgds,
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2012, 12:26:55 AM »
If i was you inventacom I would first get a Dropbox account for free at www.dropbox.com  . Then you have a private place to put things / Then if you choose to share the link you can do it one of two ways . By email or By PM private message /beside each member there is a PM symbol that looks like a quote cloud.. That way only the people here can see it and so you choose for us only to look at them then i will not share them without your permission ..


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2012, 12:44:02 AM »
Hi Invetacom,
 
Please count me in on anything you wish to share.
 
Only too happy to attempt a replication and on going optimisation of any idea.
 
Regards, Penno

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2012, 01:00:39 AM »
You can always zip the images and place in the download section of this site.  Only registered users of this site can download the information.  I would hate to shut out some of the great builders on this site by making it too difficult to get to the information, while I also understand your concern.
Video can be posted privately on YouTube and then share the link with those you trust.  It can be removed at any time you wish.
You have really peaked my interest with your posts, count me in.
 
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2012, 01:37:26 AM »
Thank you for all the great tips.

I want to have open descusion here on the board to involve everyone.
So this is what I think I would like to do:

Everyone have all open descussions pertaining to the project here on the board so everyone can see everyone's ideas and inputs.
Everyone who is interested in recieving the images, videos and data in pdf please send me an email letting me know you are interested in participating as a team.
I will come to the board and share everything thing else.  Will use email to zip everyone in our team images, videos, etc.
my email is inventacom at embarqmail dot com.  I wrote this email out this way to help keep down the spam bots that search for email address.
If nothing else, I ask that everyone who joins me give credit where credit is due. That's all I ask.  And please don't share the attachments I share with you with anyone else who is not participating with our team here. 

Thank you everyone. We are make a great team.  I will give everyone a chance to join in my sending me an email of interest.  I will reply to your mail with the attachments and after reviewing them, you all come back to this discussion board and begin with your findings and ideas.  Thank you for understanding how important this is to me. Like I explained earlier. I just have so much time, money and lots and lots of headaches invested. Hope you understand

I will await our team emails of intrest now.

Thanks

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2012, 02:33:17 AM »
Inventacom i understand headaches. Just got my Ebill from progress energy . Did you receive my email ?
Hmm...Ok then . Well just have to wait but..... i soooo  feel like a sitting Duck .

gadget ..
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2012, 04:14:10 AM »
Thank you for all the great tips.

I want to have open descusion here on the board to involve everyone.
So this is what I think I would like to do:

Everyone have all open descussions pertaining to the project here on the board so everyone can see everyone's ideas and inputs.
Everyone who is interested in recieving the images, videos and data in pdf please send me an email letting me know you are interested in participating as a team.
I will come to the board and share everything thing else.  Will use email to zip everyone in our team images, videos, etc.
my email is inventacom at embarqmail dot com.  I wrote this email out this way to help keep down the spam bots that search for email address.
If nothing else, I ask that everyone who joins me give credit where credit is due. That's all I ask.  And please don't share the attachments I share with you with anyone else who is not participating with our team here. 

Thank you everyone. We are make a great team.  I will give everyone a chance to join in my sending me an email of interest.  I will reply to your mail with the attachments and after reviewing them, you all come back to this discussion board and begin with your findings and ideas.  Thank you for understanding how important this is to me. Like I explained earlier. I just have so much time, money and lots and lots of headaches invested. Hope you understand

I will await our team emails of intrest now.

Thanks
Hey Inventacom

Sounds wonderful. ;]  But, if 'emailers' receive photos,films, and other pertinent info's, but they cannot divulge the information you emailed to them, then how is it possible to have any quality discussions in this thread if all the info's are not to be talked about?  :o

Does that make sense? ;]

MaGs

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2012, 05:57:48 AM »
There are some threads on this forum where guys have similar concerns about if they should patent or not patent their ideas. Here are two:

http://www.overunity.com/11381/how-do-you-make-money-from-an-overunity-device-that-can-not-be-patented/#.UFkR3FEmH6d
http://www.overunity.com/12207/quentron-com/#.UFlCT1EmH6c

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2012, 12:33:19 PM »
I have tried emailing all that responded to act as a team. I thought the mail was sending it all out. But lots of errors this morning where they failed to send. I found it it's because the zip I am trying to send is 66.1 mb.  So I will try here. If this fails does anyone know a secure place to upload where all of you can download this file?  Failed here too. I am currently googeling a place to upload. will update oard in few mins of prgress.