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Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower  (Read 210583 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #285 on: September 26, 2012, 01:32:47 AM »
   Just ran into the thread, just curious if there are any more
spots open? Been looking for a way to run a tandem bike
of around 500 watts.
   Have no prob with the build price and time.

thay

My trek pictured above has a 500w bldc hub motor. Got the kit on ebay for about 600 shipped.( bike was 450 down to 350 last years stock) That was over 4 yrs ago. They are cheaper now. That bike has near 10,000 miles on it. Still looks and runs great. The hub motor comes spoked to a wheel rim and the spokes are thicker than normal..The tire they give is bogus. I run kenda or bontrager 26in 2.0 bout $40 each. Ya get throttle control, controller batteries(lead acid 12 ah  4 for 48v) and a control box with wired brake levers to discontinue motor while braking, just in case....   ;]  Lithium will cost and may last longer. I get about a year to year n a half from the SAL batteries at less than $150 a set. Lithium can be like $600 to 700 and lighter by about half.  I have had some good luck lately rejuvenating the sla batts, cant do that with lithium.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #286 on: September 26, 2012, 02:02:27 AM »
Hey Mags they would ticket you here for that last one .It looks too much like a dirt bike.

you would have to put tags and lights and get it inspected if it capable of going over 30mph in Nc .
I live in the country and we used to be able to ride golf carts on side of the road . now they give you tickets if it does not have Inspection sticker and all the lights ..they go less than 30 most of the time.

The law says 20 mph in I believe all 50 states. My trek does 25. But most cops dont know about these things. I have cop friends and they love it. ;]

20 mph is an 'all motor' or 'motor only' speed limit. If the motor allows you to pedal and go faster with motor help, you are still good, and still considered a 'bicycle' sidewalks and all. As long as you pedal, go 35 if you want. But if they want to check the bike to see if it is within limits then they can. The idea is that the motor cannot propel you more than 20 on its own.

My wavecrest is 20mph regulated. It wont let you pedal at full throttle beyond 20. It actually holds you back. Till you let go of the throttle. It also has regen when braking.

I bought it used with bad batteries. I bought lower end 10ah(recomended) and it worked fine. pain in the ASS to do the job. The big problem with that setup is that NIMH batts need drained once in a while like NICAD. But with this bike, there is no way to do that, even the charg wires going in are not a direct connect to the batteries and can drain because the computer contoller wont let the batts go lower than so. Sooo, im running an extra set of wires for just that. 36v worth of light bulbs, 3 12s in series and im good to go.

The little Triax walmart bike, 169 for bike and 350 for the kit, doesnt have much oomph, but gets ya up to 27 mph. The brushes are adjustable.  ;) so I can set it for more bottom end or top end or somewhere in the middle. 27mph is pretty darn quick on a lil bike like that. Broke a few spokes as these are not meant for 27 mph with me, 215lb and a battery pack. ;]  Thats why I went for the second level trek for the other bike.

The lil bike is 600w but being brushed, less eff
The trek is 500w(under 750 to be legal on the street as a bicycle) But it goes over 20 mph  :o :o ;D

And the tidalforce is, get this, 749w  STREET LEGAL all 50 states.  In cali if you want to go faster than 20, you can get registration/plate and have a license for up to 35mph.


That big bad boy I DONT have. yet  ;]  It has a mode switch. street and off road. I dont think they have a law that determines if the 'switch' keeps it legal. My trek has a control box I made for setting the top speed/throttle that is like an adjustable mode. I used a trim pot with knob to modified the throttle signal from its hall sensor to the control box.

So the bottom switch is mode and the upper is on/off and the knob on the left side.

Ok if anyone wants to talk more on this, make a thread and Ill be there. ;]

I just really really want to never have to charge these things.  ;) You know..  ;D

And the Fiero will be next. ;]

Mags

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #287 on: September 26, 2012, 03:03:16 AM »
no its 30 here in nc .. All the mopeds are Legal without registration in nc but they are limited to 30 MPH . I got one that goes 45 though ....most all roads here posted 60mph . the fasted is 80. they are trying to pass 85mph on the freeways and interstates ..

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #288 on: September 26, 2012, 04:54:42 AM »
gadgetmall...

I cannot believe that you would not nominate Clanzer when it comes to builds for the open source community I believe he likely holds a record in the number of attempts at validating OU/FE ...

I suggest that someone try to get ahold of this guy if they want a build not to mention he is a very resourceful fella...

Clanzer if you are still out there kicking somewhere I know its been a while but this should be right up your alley...

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Finally when and if you do get this to work I would like to be the first person to purchase this product so put me at the top of your consumer waiting list as I do not believe anyone has asked to be on this list as of yet so I will ask for it when it is available for sale make me one of your first customers cause if it does work there will be a giant waiting list.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #289 on: September 26, 2012, 05:05:55 AM »
gadgetmall...

I cannot believe that you would not nominate Clanzer when it comes to builds for the open source community I believe he likely holds a record in the number of attempts at validating OU/FE ...

I suggest that someone try to get ahold of this guy if they want a build not to mention he is a very resourceful fella...

Clanzer if you are still out there kicking somewhere I know its been a while but this should be right up your alley...

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Finally when and if you do get this to work I would like to be the first person to purchase this product so put me at the top of your consumer waiting list as I do not believe anyone has asked to be on this list as of yet so I will ask for it when it is available for sale make me one of your first customers cause if it does work there will be a giant waiting list.

Clanzer is an excellent builder.  I dont know about now, but when I would wait to see results of the builds, there wasnt ever any conclusions made as to if it worked or not.  ???

Unless he has filled in those conclusions by now. I have not checked in a long while.

Like I would be checking on a particular project for good or bad word and there would be a new project going in the same direction and then nada.

Like I said, maybe he has finally finished those tests and posted the results. But I really got tired of not seeing any so I stopped looking a while back.

I just wouldnt want that to happen here and a no results situation causing low hope in the group.

MaGs

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #289 on: September 26, 2012, 05:05:55 AM »
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #291 on: September 26, 2012, 03:01:35 PM »
gadgetmall...

I cannot believe that you would not nominate Clanzer when it comes to builds for the open source community I believe he likely holds a record in the number of attempts at validating OU/FE ...

I suggest that someone try to get ahold of this guy if they want a build not to mention he is a very resourceful fella...

Clanzer if you are still out there kicking somewhere I know its been a while but this should be right up your alley...

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Finally when and if you do get this to work I would like to be the first person to purchase this product so put me at the top of your consumer waiting list as I do not believe anyone has asked to be on this list as of yet so I will ask for it when it is available for sale make me one of your first customers cause if it does work there will be a giant waiting list.
Hi . It is not me who invites .It is the people who contacted inventacom Through his email posted and invited by Him. All i do is verify them for him and help them on there way  .As far as i am concerned i agree with you but i have limited memory when it comes to who does what here .

 If he emails inventacom he will be part of his Team as anyone can back up his credentials .. yes he is needed .

If there is anyone here that was verified that we missed (E2matrix and me) let us know by email .

Any one else that would like to replicate a self powered generator system contact Inventacom at the email posted  in this thread .Once you do that follow post 167 instructions

I am just an elected  sheepherder ;]

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #292 on: September 27, 2012, 04:29:56 AM »
Wazzup fellers?

Whats the good word? ;D

Mags

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #293 on: September 27, 2012, 10:51:52 AM »
Could this be scaled down to a desktop demo system?

I`m thinking something low cost, (scrap) like a battery drill motor.

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« Reply #294 on: September 27, 2012, 08:01:53 PM »
No but it does do exactly what the title says .
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #295 on: September 28, 2012, 03:15:14 PM »
No but it does do exactly what the title says .

'Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower'


I dont get it. what happened to the teams? 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #296 on: September 28, 2012, 04:36:07 PM »
@Mags:


Take a look at post #167.


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #297 on: September 28, 2012, 06:01:45 PM »
@Mags:


Take a look at post #167.


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Take a look at the header on the first page of this forum. It says:
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I wonder what "OPEN SOURCE" means.

Does it mean that researchers must sign non-disclosure agreements with the claimant in order to be on the distribution list of the information that's shared privately? Does it mean that there are secret "teams" that have information that the other poor fools reading the thread don't have?

The post #167 is clearly violating the fundamental tenets of open-source research. Fine... if you want to do things that way, fine, it's your party.  But what are you doing soliciting help on an OPEN SOURCE forum then?

What if someone wanted to see PROOF that the claimant is actually running his household electric needs from his device and is not connected to the grid? Would that someone have to sign away his open source rights of knowledge and discussion,  in order to see that proof?

I'll conjecture right here in the OPEN that you will never see such proof, regardless of how many NDAs and secret agreements and "teams" you are on.

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« Reply #298 on: September 28, 2012, 06:14:30 PM »
@TinselKoala


I agree with the "open source" concept and didn't mean to come across as supporting the approach taken on this thread.


However, that is what has happened here and if someone (such as Mags) wanted to see or get involved with the "team" then co-operating with the directions in post #167 appears to be the only way. . . . . without seeing proof.


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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #299 on: September 28, 2012, 11:45:49 PM »
Take a look at the header on the first page of this forum. It says:
I wonder what "OPEN SOURCE" means.

Does it mean that researchers must sign non-disclosure agreements with the claimant in order to be on the distribution list of the information that's shared privately? Does it mean that there are secret "teams" that have information that the other poor fools reading the thread don't have?

The post #167 is clearly violating the fundamental tenets of open-source research. Fine... if you want to do things that way, fine, it's your party.  But what are you doing soliciting help on an OPEN SOURCE forum then?

What if someone wanted to see PROOF that the claimant is actually running his household electric needs from his device and is not connected to the grid? Would that someone have to sign away his open source rights of knowledge and discussion,  in order to see that proof?

I'll conjecture right here in the OPEN that you will never see such proof, regardless of how many NDAs and secret agreements and "teams" you are on.

I share Koala's concerns.  Particularly, the NDA requirement is a big concern:
1.  Let's suppose I'm working on a motor-generator concept myself
2.  But I sign inventacom's NDA in order to be on the private "Team"
3.  Then I learn something that will help me with my own motor-gen developments...
4.  Can I freely discuss MY motor-gen ideas at that point, open source?  or am I bound by the NDA?

That's why I was dismayed as soon as I saw the NDA requirement....

5.  With the NDA, can anyone even tell us when the device works, or doesn't work? (for sure)

The departure from freedom of speech, "free" energy and open source is a valid concern IMO.

 

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