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Author Topic: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower  (Read 210922 times)

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #255 on: September 24, 2012, 08:32:52 PM »
I use other browsers so little now I'm not sure if they show links like the Opera browser does but when using Opera if you just scroll your mouse over a button you can see the actual address link at the bottom of the page so I can see if it's a google ad, an executable or a .PDF or Zip I'm trying to get.   Makes it easier to spot the phony 'DOWNLOAD ME' buttons ;)

Yes vince it's good and not boring at all.  I think most of us know that under normal logic or physics this setup should not be able to produce extra power.  However there are enough things I've come across in the last 20 years to know there is knowledge being suppressed and things may not always work the way we expect.  I also think it's possible there are some things at work here that may fit traditional physics but just are not obvious as to how extra power may be coming into the system. 

  Take a look at this new link which came from the Lindemann msg. thread I mentioned earlier of.  It appears to be a motor generator which has 8KW input and puts out 22KW.  http://www.ucros-energy.es.tl/ENGLISH-.htm

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #256 on: September 24, 2012, 08:52:29 PM »
Interesting comparisons. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #257 on: September 24, 2012, 11:20:00 PM »
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As far as the parts for this unit, I have approximately $500 in the whole unit. This is because of the custom pulleys and gen head mostly.  Although, its cost me $500 I saved that in first 3 months of running it. Once you recoup the price of gen vs elect bills, the unit becomes a profitable devices. A major return on your investment.
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For anyone concerned with the price tag on this build, consider this.  A comparable gas generator of this size can cost more than $500.  Gas generators are loud, temperamental, and require a good amount of fuel and maintenance for this size unit.  By purchasing a pulley type generator, at worst case you can still hook it up to a gas motor and still have your gas generator.  I see this as a no brainer if you are looking for alternative method of electricity generation with the fall back for conventional power.  Many of us have spent much more chasing cheap energy.
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #257 on: September 24, 2012, 11:20:00 PM »
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #258 on: September 24, 2012, 11:39:23 PM »
Thats what i am doing . I bought that Big Generator i posted a few back . On credit with paypal so it is an investment but i can use it . 1800 RPM 7500kw .. almost 300 pounds though .
fatBird the us government here is a separate entity and is now designed to remove and and all rights we have left and to control every aspect they can as close as thay can to slavery and will never let us have free energy unless we make it ourselves and also Amr ourselves to to hilt because that day is coming soon . a revolution . them against us  the people . 


To all . Back up and everybody should be verified except a few who have not emailed inventacom and then followed post 167 .

gadget Out .
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #259 on: September 25, 2012, 02:12:19 AM »
Glad you got your PC back up & running Gadget.  That new Gen you bought sounds nifty.
Maybe you can post a web site Link so we can see what it looks like & what the specs are.
 
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #259 on: September 25, 2012, 02:12:19 AM »
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #260 on: September 25, 2012, 03:01:37 AM »
http://stores.ebay.com/Generator-Store?_trksid=p2047675.l2563


I got a 7500 watt Big Motha  1800 rpm . I got a diesel My brother has conversion to Veg oil .

If i can run this with a dc motor from My wind and solar plant to start it is my hopes. .

@E2Matrix . please check you email from my Ymail

I got to tend to my Girl she is loosing a Tooth ..

Later guys

gadget Clear.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #261 on: September 25, 2012, 03:10:48 AM »
Hi folks, Hi gadget, there is no them, there is only us, that maybe is one of the things humanity needs to learn.
If you fight another, you are fighting yourself.
The human garment (body) is used to experience the perception of separation, their truly is no separation of anything, even if the object seems inanimate.
A tree branch would not battle with another tree branch, for it knows it is one and the same.
Though a tree branch has it somewhat easier, as it can see the root from where it comes from, where as, our roots are not as visible to the human eye.
And if we all could see these energetic roots, we would never think about harming another, which is ourselves, no matter what illusion is cast before our eyes.
You speak of the government taking away rights, we have done that to ourselves, by believing we are all separate, they have only used this ignorance to their advantage.
Forgive that link i posted, as before, they did not have all those deceptive link buttons.
Hope that pdf had some value to it.
peace love light
tyson ;)

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #262 on: September 25, 2012, 03:32:59 AM »
http://stores.ebay.com/Generator-Store?_trksid=p2047675.l2563


I got a 7500 watt Big Motha  1800 rpm . I got a diesel My brother has conversion to Veg oil .

If i can run this with a dc motor from My wind and solar plant to start it is my hopes. .

@E2Matrix . please check you email from my Ymail

I got to tend to my Girl she is loosing a Tooth ..

Later guys

gadget Clear.

Take care of Family first - hope she's okay.  When you get back I've sent you a couple emails as there seems to be several issues with what you mentioned.   Not working yet anyway. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #263 on: September 25, 2012, 04:15:15 AM »
Ok tooth is under Pillow.. Now if that tooth Fairy can remember is another task . set the android to let the tooth fairy in at  4 am .

Ok its set up E2.

giver her a whirl .

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #263 on: September 25, 2012, 04:15:15 AM »
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #264 on: September 25, 2012, 04:36:09 AM »
Ok tooth is under Pillow.. Now if that tooth Fairy can remember is another task . set the android to let the tooth fairy in at  4 am .

Ok its set up E2.

giver her a whirl .
Androids are great for letting in the Tooth fairy :D     It's all good to go.

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #265 on: September 25, 2012, 04:41:14 AM »
@Inventacom

I've been looking at the information you've sent us and it's all great so far but...In order to replicate your working model I would need more info...such as.

Fan blower:

Model:
Manufacturer:
Year:
Other: Any other info on this motor.

Transmission/Gearbox:

This is where I'm stuck, from what I've seen so far it's not clear how you did it, if the above mentioned motor is supposed to drive the generator then how do we determine the gear ratio?  We need more info on this in order to make it work as you did.

Generator:

The information you gave us is specific to that generator, can it be substituted for an equivalent generator head of the same KW output or does this affect the Transmission/Gearbox ratio?

RV 120AC/12VDCConverter:

Model:
Manufacturer:
Year:
Other: Any other info on this converter?

Any thing else I missed?

Regards,
Paul Gauthier

PS: I've already got most of the parts to make this work but they could be all wrong...LOL





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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #266 on: September 25, 2012, 05:30:41 AM »
I have a 10KW AC generator head from Harbor Freight. Also have a DC machine about the same size/weight.

Got a auto blower motor and an assortment of other DC motors.

Anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight machine?

http://www.harborfreight.com/10000-watts-max-7200-watts-rated-belt-driven-generator-head-45416.html

For our shop use, we've built a setup to generate Three Phase AC from Single Phase using a 3 phase motor self excited with capacitors, so have some experience with belts, pulleys motors, and generators.

Variable sheave pulley allows precise frequency adjustment to 60 Hz, shown below.

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« Reply #267 on: September 25, 2012, 05:47:38 AM »
Just a suggestion, I have a specific question that I would like to ask @inventacom concerning information we received.  I am fairly confident that other users have or will have questions about as well.  It would be nice if we could send those questions to our elected TL’s (Team Leaders) and compiled for all approved participants so they could review.  I prefer to abide by my pledge to not disclose any of @inventacom’s sharing of information with the group, but if the questions are too specific, would that not be the same thing?   :-X
Maybe a text file, PDF, spreadsheet, ect,. updated with questions and answers.  I am not trying to burden the TL’s with additional responsibilities, but how else do we ask questions and know what questions other ask that we may not have thought of yet?
@Goat - those are terrific questions if we are to start with an exact replication.  IMHO - this is the correct direction to proceed.  I believe @inventacom commented that he was building a parts list for us, however specific model number parts as you requested is very important.  :)
 
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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #268 on: September 25, 2012, 06:07:20 AM »
b_rads,  There will be a solution for that situation very shortly - by tomorrow I think at the latest.   I'm just waiting on a word from Inventacom.   Both myself and gadgetmall have been working on that exact problem at the suggestion of Inventacom.  You will get email soon about this so for now hold the questions - it won't be long. 

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Re: Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower
« Reply #269 on: September 25, 2012, 09:06:24 AM »
Been thinking about it a bit. I know that we are suppose to try to use a car fan motor that works, but, brushless motors come to mind.

Some of these hobby shop motors are super efficient and can put out some HP at very high rpms. ( im still stuck on the high rpm motor geared down, since I dont have an idea of what to do.)

Wouldnt that be a funny YT vid of a lil 3 in dia motor driving that big ole gen?

What got me thinking is, if we have (2) sets of pulleys (2) belts and then a gear box, we are probably losing a 'great' deal there to start with. Not saying it doesnt work, just that I think there could be big losses there. So if there is extra energy from all this, a good amount is being spent there.
What could be in the gear box? We have a pulley system on the motor to gear box that is a gear up situation as the input to the gear box spins faster than the motor shaft. And then another gear up situation after the gear box to the gen. Just the pulleys themselves gear up quite a bit. So I find it 'hard' to believe that the gear box is a further gear up situation. Very hard.  Unless...

DC motors have the most torque at low rpm. Yup. Hmm. ;]

Or, gearing up, then gearing down, then back up again has some mystical effects on power. ;]

That guy that had magnetic gears at Peswiki, a motor and like 3 or 4 gens, Ive had some experience with magnetic gearing and like that guy has his, the drag is mostly pressure on the bearings of the motor/gens, using the staggered layout of the mags on the wheels. The ones between other will have less of this pressure due to being pressured from both sides causing cancellation.  Maybe after all this if we get things going, we can implement some ideas like these to further development. ;]

Anyway, thats my thoughts for the day. ;]

MaGs

 

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