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Author Topic: Probality of God  (Read 680925 times)

ramset

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2012, 04:08:23 PM »
Snicker.........
Sorry about that W, I was not really sure about your feelings for your fellow man.
I will add however that your feelings [how you stand on addiction and youth] will be important for you to have any credibility whatsoever in this Peer reviewd discusion we are having.
 
You see the science of the mind is a relatively new Hobby of Men,[of course religious atrocities aside]
It has its most recent roots during the time period of  member @ghosts
book PDF. around the same Time the 12 step program started [almost to the year ]
 
But ,I really have to get to work on my Open source Ou faither Thingy
which BTW I may ask for your help with at some point.
 
Sorry for behaving so "uppity" it was a cheap shot [the people like you thing]
 
but if your going to play "the probability of God " game.
you don't get to make _ALL_ the rules.
[this isn't one of our poker games].
 
be back MUCH later.........
 
thx
Chet
 

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »
Snicker.........
Sorry about that W, I was not really sure about your feelings for your fellow man.
I will add however that your feelings [how you stand on addiction and youth] will be important for you to have any credibility whatsoever in this Peer reviewd discusion we are having.
 
You see the science of the mind is a relatively new Hobby of Men,[of course religious atrocities aside]
It has its most recent roots during the time period of  member @ghosts
book PDF. around the same Time the 12 step program started [almost to the year ]
 
But ,I really have to get to work on my Open source Ou faither Thingy
which BTW I may ask for your help with at some point.
 
Sorry for behaving so "uppity" it was a cheap shot [the people like you thing]
 
but if your going to play "the probability of God " game.
you don't get to make _ALL_ the rules.
[this isn't one of our poker games].
 
be back MUCH later.........
 
thx
Chet
you didn't provide your methods for falsifying all the other gods chetty the cheerleader... nor did you provide the method used to validate yours...  ::)

your entire response is just another one of your usual red herring logical fallacies. you are no different than tito the clown you dunce.

thank you for ANOTHER tacit admission you don't have a single shred of extant material evidence nor a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior friend.


your apology is NOT accepted... and don't bother to ask me for help with ANYTHING.

ramset

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2012, 11:21:59 AM »
W
 
I am a bit weak in the Falsify department, as a matter of fact I have never once gone there ,and always encourage people to do "what works for them".
 
regarding the "proof" part
Please give 5 examples that would satisfy your request .
 
And please flavor them differently.
 
Thx
 
Chester
PS
Of Course you are not required to except my apology, I am however Required to offer it.
thats How I roll now.............
 

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2012, 06:14:20 PM »
you didn't provide your methods for falsifying all the other gods chetito... nor did you provide the method used to validate yours...  ::)

your entire response is just another one of your usual red herring logical fallacies. you are no different than tito the clown you dunce.

thank you for ANOTHER tacit admission you don't have a single shred of extant material evidence nor a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior friend.

I am a bit weak in the Falsify department, as a matter of fact I have never once gone there ,and always encourage people to do "what works for them".
chetito... that's because you haven't a clue as to what constitutes the scientific method... ::)
 
regarding the "proof" part
Please give 5 examples that would satisfy your request .
bring your imaginary godfairy savior friend over for bbq on fri.  sept. 21 2012... we can have some eats and then your godfairy can create a rock (from nothing) that is too heavy to lift... and then your godfairy can lift said rock. do that and i'll bend my knee.

until then... the ahh... the idea of kneeling, it's... you see, logically kicking the shit out of all your asinine, fantastical claims has left a nasty cramp in my leg... so kneeling will be hard for me...

PS
Of Course you are not required to except my apology, I am however Required to offer it.
thats How I roll now.............
i hold your sins bound. that's how i roll now...

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2012, 06:42:49 PM »
from the wiki...

Within the philosophy of science falsifiability or refutability is a quality or characteristic of a scientific hypothesis or theory. Falsifiability is considered a positive (and often essential) quality of a hypothesis because it means that the hypothesis is testable by empirical experiment and thus conforms to the standards of scientific method. That something is "falsifiable" does not mean it is false, rather it means that if it is false, then observation or experiment will at some point demonstrate its falsehood.

"Falsifiable" is often taken to loosely mean "testable." A common application or usage put loosely is if it's not falsifiable, then it's not scientific.


so faithers... once again, what methods did you use to falsify all the 2500+ gods that humanity has created and what method did you use to validate yours?


no takers yet??  imagine that!  ::)

eatenbyagrue

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2012, 06:42:57 PM »

I am a bit weak in the Falsify department, as a matter of fact I have never once gone there ,and always encourage people to do "what works for them".
 


How do you know something "works" if you do not try to falsify it and subject it to scientific rigor?

ramset

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »
eatinbyarque
First I also Owe you an apology for that Eatinbarbeque remark as it applied to your Handle and a Claimed "sorry I didn't have My glass's on" responce.
I lied ,sigh ..........
 
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As far as Scientific Rigor regarding what helps people in trouble with addiction.
I really don't like going to Funerals. and I have been running with the "Car Keys and the house wife" approach.
 
If I put the keys in the ignition turn em and it gets me where I gotta go.
No need to get all "hows it work " with that.
 
However ,I see thats Upsetting you fellahs.........
 
I'm having a Ruff Day or two here ,speaking Of cars I slapped a cheap motor into the wifes Subaru [the guy said it was Good ] a few days ago and yesterday Cabllooie  ......sad very sad   
Sigh ... I guess he lied Tooo..........?
 
Real busy atm .
But this is fun so I'll be back later!

@
"W"
I see you are using a lot of Big words ["F" words too]
So far I see one "flavor" in your request   " miracle rocks ".

4 more please.............
Thx
Chester 
« Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 08:46:20 PM by ramset »

thx1138

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #82 on: September 19, 2012, 01:34:32 AM »
W
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now you're claiming to know my feelings?  LMFAO  you megalomaniacal, pretentious, sanctimonious, mendacious little troll.  you don't have the slightest clue as to what i consider addicts to be... you fucking prick.
Do you have any extant material proof that you have feelings?
 

Newton II

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #83 on: September 19, 2012, 02:10:42 AM »
Do you have any extant material proof that you have feelings?


Great question!   I don't think  anybody in this world can answer it.

Qwert

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #84 on: September 19, 2012, 08:46:26 AM »

Great question!   I don't think  anybody in this world can answer it.

We need to dogmatize this question and an answer is easy; even most idiotic answer will be good under a dogma.

ramset

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #85 on: September 19, 2012, 11:32:44 AM »
HHHhhhmmmm
even an idiotic answer works with Dogma ?
feelings Huh?
Dogma ....
perspective..
 
I take the hammer smash my thumb ... it hurts ,I take the same hammer but this time "W" is holding the nail ....and I smash his thumb, he says it hurts
 
Do I believe him ? or do I need DOGMA?
 
I take addiction
Perspective
 
Lets say you don't eat for a few days,and you are completely starving to death.
 
1}[we'll call that feeling one]
 
Lets say you are a healthy 18 year old male heterosexual virgin.
you suddenly have what you consider to be the most beautiful veluptuous woman standing but naked in front of you with that "come here and make me happy" look in her eyes. [and she's got an endless line of "others"in all flavors behind her]
uncontrlable, insatiable ,passionate "lust".
2} {we'll call that feeling two]
 
lets say that your afraid of burning to death... it scares you a lot.
 
somebody just dumped a pail of gas all over you.. and a lit match is in the air on its way towards you.
unbridaled terror!
3} [we'll call that feeling three]
 
take one ,two and three mix them all together randomly in a Blender
never turn the blender off .... ever.
that is Torment
that is addiction.
And it all happens in the mind ,there is no drug that will kill you if you stop
only alchohol withdrawl can kill you.
 
the pain lives and breathes in the mind . [there are things that can torment a man much worse than a sore thumb.]

a feeling.........
 
Feelings  are they real ? where's the Dogma come in?
 
I know "W" will not except a feeling  as a miracle.
he's not an addict..........[no perspective]
 
But Torment wears many Hats...............

4 more "W"...
thx
Chet
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
« Last Edit: September 19, 2012, 12:49:35 PM by ramset »

Qwert

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #86 on: September 19, 2012, 03:11:54 PM »
Ramset, instead of creating nonsense examples, can you example at least one sensible dogma? Go ahead, take your all possible Holy Books and find one. Dogmas are created just for this purpose when answer cannot be sensible. See what this site says about dogmatism: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dogmatism :

dogmatism
1.
a statement of a point of view as if it were an established fact.
2. the use of a system of ideas based upon insufficiently examined premises.  — dogmatist, n.  — dogmatic, adj.See also: Argumentation

Also, thesaurus:

Noun1.dogmatism - the intolerance and prejudice of a bigot

dogmatism
noun arrogance, presumption, arbitrariness, imperiousness, peremptoriness, dictatorialness, opinionatedness Dogmatism cannot stand in the way of progress.


See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma

or just google these words.

eatenbyagrue

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #87 on: September 19, 2012, 04:11:37 PM »

Feelings  are they real ? where's the Dogma come in?



Feelings are real.  All humans have them due to the way our brain has evolved.  Animals have feelings too.  But from this established fact, how do we get to (1) god created the universe, and/or (2) god intervenes in our daily lives?  Why do feelings require god?


Now I am not saying I can prove conclusively that feelings are not coming from some kind of godly entity, but merely that there is no evidence to believe that this is true.  So why believe a  twisted, complicated version of reality that there is no evidence for?


Why do you believe feelings are miracles and not explained by known science?

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2012, 05:08:05 PM »
WDo you have any extant material proof that you have feelings?
another red herring??     ::)

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Probality of God
« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2012, 05:09:21 PM »
"W"
I see you are using a lot of Big words ["F" words too]
So far I see one "flavor" in your request   " miracle rocks ".

4 more please.............
Thx
Chester
you didn't provide your methods for falsifying all the other gods chetito... nor did you provide the method used to validate yours...  ::)

your entire response is just another one of your usual red herring logical fallacies. you are no different than tito the clown you dunce.

thank you for ANOTHER tacit admission you don't have a single shred of extant material evidence nor a logical proof for the existence of your imaginary godfairy savior friend.