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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2012, 05:24:12 AM »
TK is correct.  I made my fountain, and created my topic after watching about 10 or more of his videos.  My video was a replication and not my original idea.  I gave full credit in my video along with links and a schematic that I used to make it.  I also credited TK, not because we are best buddies, but because that is where I got the idea to make my project.

Once again, Jim does not tell the truth.

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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2012, 05:24:12 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2012, 04:53:05 PM »
TK is correct.  I made my fountain, and created my topic after watching about 10 or more of his videos.  My video was a replication and not my original idea.  I gave full credit in my video along with links and a schematic that I used to make it.  I also credited TK, not because we are best buddies, but because that is where I got the idea to make my project.

Once again, Jim does not tell the truth.

Bill

   Bill,
 Here is the first post in your thread. I don't see where anything you are claiming to have mentioned was posted.
>>   Heron's Fountain« on: August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM » This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill   <<   @all, here is a link to youtube where many people have built a Heron's Fountain and a link to Wikipedia.org.  http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+heron%27s+fountain&oq=+heron%27s+fountain&gs_l=youtube.3..0j0i5.7937.7937.0.9657.1.1.0.0.0.0.106.106.0j1.1.0.echs..0.0...1ac.1.bWDmhbHxHI8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron%27s_fountain
 
edited to add; the link in Bill's post is to blogspot and not a video.
 
edited to add; the definition of jealous from M-W.com2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage   My advantage is my schooling and willingness to learn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jealous?show=0&t=1350057965
 
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(http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 09:46:56 PM » TK and all:

I have old Johnny on ignore and can't see what he is posting...I am sure I am not missing much.  Ignore is such a great feature.  and this after TK posted this;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »Well, I was gonna wait until Bill posted his video of his fountain, but after that last set of drawings from johnny874 I feel rather obligated to point out that I published the video below on YouTube on August 25th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU and if you watch his video, it is what else that was posted, from gadgetmall;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM » Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff  and Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 07:15:16 PM » Thanks Bill!

Here's the "extended version" with the pingpong ball chamber. It's a spacer, really, from the ideas given by Conradelektro and the wiki pages, and my own realisation that the fountain depends on the difference in levels between source and receiver reservoirs. The easiest way for me to add a spacer was just to put another jar in the stack, and have it function as an extended air conduit. The pingpong balls are there to reduce the active air volume in the extra vent space, so that it's not as "springy". The external plumbing of this version might make the operation clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4

I think I'll put another spacer in the stack, just to see how high it will actually pump. end quote.  nothing in common with what I designed. If you look at tinselfkoal's design, it is what Bill posted using 2 chambers. What I posted uses only one. A very significant difference. and again what tinselfkoala said about my design; Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:22 PM » You just wait. Someday, when I can get out of bed, I'll build the world's best perpetual motion machine, using a 2000 year old design,end quote. In tinselfkoala's own words he did not think it was possible. Yet Bill says such statements verify his friend's claims that I stole their idea. And to repeat about Bill saying he is not tinselfkoala's friend, am quoting gadgetmall; Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff
« Last Edit: October 12, 2012, 06:21:42 PM by johnny874 »

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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2012, 07:01:03 PM »
  bill,
 don't tell me because I seperated elevation/pressure heads that's your friend tk's idea.
 if you look at the diagram on wikipedia, that is what Heron did so his pressure heads could act independently.
 That is not your friend's discovery which you both falsely claim is his invention.

edited to add; bill, I read what tk posted in your thread. she went as far as using ping pong balls to DECREASE the volume of the lower chamber to make a more efficient HERON'S FOUNTAIN.
 Yet he is claiming credit for Heron's discovery, ok.

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« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2012, 07:20:41 AM »

   Bill,
 Here is the first post in your thread. I don't see where anything you are claiming to have mentioned was posted.
>>   Heron's Fountain« on: August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM » This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill   <<   @all, here is a link to youtube where many people have built a Heron's Fountain and a link to Wikipedia.org.  http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+heron%27s+fountain&oq=+heron%27s+fountain&gs_l=youtube.3..0j0i5.7937.7937.0.9657.1.1.0.0.0.0.106.106.0j1.1.0.echs..0.0...1ac.1.bWDmhbHxHI8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron%27s_fountain
 
edited to add; the link in Bill's post is to blogspot and not a video.
 
edited to add; the definition of jealous from M-W.com2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage   My advantage is my schooling and willingness to learn. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jealous?show=0&t=1350057965
 
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(http://www.overunity.com/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 09:46:56 PM » TK and all:

I have old Johnny on ignore and can't see what he is posting...I am sure I am not missing much.  Ignore is such a great feature.  and this after TK posted this;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »Quote
Well, I was gonna wait until Bill posted his video of his fountain, but after that last set of drawings from johnny874 I feel rather obligated to point out that I published the video below on YouTube on August 25th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU and if you watch his video, it is what else that was posted, from gadgetmall;Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM » Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff  and Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 07:15:16 PM » Thanks Bill!

Here's the "extended version" with the pingpong ball chamber. It's a spacer, really, from the ideas given by Conradelektro and the wiki pages, and my own realisation that the fountain depends on the difference in levels between source and receiver reservoirs. The easiest way for me to add a spacer was just to put another jar in the stack, and have it function as an extended air conduit. The pingpong balls are there to reduce the active air volume in the extra vent space, so that it's not as "springy". The external plumbing of this version might make the operation clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4

I think I'll put another spacer in the stack, just to see how high it will actually pump. end quote.  nothing in common with what I designed. If you look at tinselfkoal's design, it is what Bill posted using 2 chambers. What I posted uses only one. A very significant difference. and again what tinselfkoala said about my design; Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:22 PM » You just wait. Someday, when I can get out of bed, I'll build the world's best perpetual motion machine, using a 2000 year old design,end quote. In tinselfkoala's own words he did not think it was possible. Yet Bill says such statements verify his friend's claims that I stole their idea. And to repeat about Bill saying he is not tinselfkoala's friend, am quoting gadgetmall; Re: Heron's Fountain« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 11:07:26 PM »Love it Bill . It's nice to see you and other friendlies doing some more research on stuff

Captain Oblivious: (Jim)

This is quoted from my Youtube info on my Heron's Fountain video: (copied and pasted from the video info)

"This is my version of Heron's Fountain.  I got the schematic from Make.  It is easy to build and cost me nothing.  I used things sitting around my house.  The incredible part of this device is that the water rises up and pumps much higher than it starts out.  This is NOT perpetual motion but it IS a very interesting invention.  Thanks to TK over at OU dot com for his inspiration and advice.
Here is the link that got me started:http://blog.makezine.com/2008/06/08/build-herons-fountain-1/"

This is the link to that video that anyone can see what I am saying is true, which is also the link I placed in my 7th post in my topic which can be seen here:

http://www.overunity.com/12640/herons-fountain/30/#.UHj4ia5wyKI

And, here is the link to that video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFjn3pSdoo

So, once again, anyone that reads these links and checks the dates can clearly see that you are lying once again.  You lie Jim.  This means, you do not tell the truth.  Why would you lie about something that is so easy for folks to check out?  I mean, that is like the definition of stupid.  So, while you are calculating cubic inches of surface area that no other engineer on the planet would ever do, (which you later denied posting but, hey, the posts are there for all to see....duh!) you should think about trying to be a better liar.  Don't lie about things that are so easily checked out to be lies.

Stop claiming other folk's work as your own and stop lying. Learn English and please learn how to type.  Also, please read at least one book on Engineering, don't just look at the pictures.

Bill

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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2012, 02:53:19 PM »
What the hell is Jimpbo on about now? Can he not read? Oh....that's right, he has actually accused me of somehow changing the dates on my YT videos!! The guy must be completely crazy paranoid or something.

Here's my FIRST video showing a Heron's Fountain, that I made from the Make reference that Bill cited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlBqLM6Naw
Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.

Here's my SECOND video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3JMcFHwp4

Here's my THIRD video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZtoyjF4aA

Here's my FOURTH video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2M05d8J8fU

Here's my FIFTH video showing a Heron's Fountain. Uploaded to YouTube on August 21.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8OVSPVKLBI

And I posted several more videos in the WEEK BEFORE August 29 which was when Bill started his FIRST Heron's Fountain thread. And the first mention by crazy johnny of anything concerning a Heron's Fountain was in Bill's thread on August 29, more than a full WEEK after I had been posting my videos of Heron's Fountain. And he later, ON AUGUST 31, posts drawings that show the same nested reservoirs THAT I USED IN MY VIDEOS THAT WERE POSTED ON  AUGUST 22 and AUGUST 23. So..... I suppose anyone but Jimpbo can do the math on that one.... he posted his drawings a FULL WEEK after my modified system was published on YouTube for everyone -- including him -- to see.

In plain words, the "work" that Johnny accuses me of "stealing" wasn't posted or discussed BY HIM until a week or ten days AFTER I posted my videos on YouTube. So I think he's got his accusations backwards. He might have seen my videos and gotten his ideas, such as they are, from studying my videos. But there is NO WAY that anything I've done could have been taken from him.... because I did my stuff more than a week before he even mentioned it.

Jimpbo for some reason desires to continue his libel of me and refuses to retract his lies and accusations, and instead of "developing idea's" the ignorant fool whines and complains, says "goodbye" over and over but never leaves, and can't do any of his perpetual motion machines because his back hurts and he doesn't have a shop to work in. So he wants to continue this flame war by continuing to lie about me and my work, about Bill and his work, and apparently about several other people too. Why is this ignorant fool tolerated here?

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« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2012, 04:19:21 PM »
   @All,
 Here are 2 pictures. One is from wikipedia.org and the other is the one I modified.
What tinselfkoala is claiming is that when he used Mr.Wayne's idea that it became HIS invention.
 People before have tried using different size tubes to achieve overunity and none have ever worked.
And if anyone looks at the design that pirate88719 posted, that is what ttinselfkoala built. He DID NOT
build what any of my drawings and or pictures demonstrate. And quite specifically that 2 pressure heads
can be acted on differently by allowing for one container to have the ability to over flow into the chamber
being pumped in the manner of Heron's Fountain.
 
 And to quote tinslelf mocking me once again, this is getting olde;
 Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 03:08:22 PM »Quote
You just wait. Someday, when I can get out of bed, I'll build the world's best perpetual motion machine, using a 2000 year old design and then there is this;Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 04:41:30 PM »Quote
Yeah, and I'm sure you will PROVE ME WRONG.
and  Re: Modified Heron's Fountain« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 05:07:02 PM »Quote
Quote<blockquote> The reason why is the larger tube has a surface area of about 1.75 cubic inches and tne smaller tube has .05 cubic inches.</blockquote>
Priceless. Surface area is now measured in cubic inches. Who knew?  end quote
 In this last quote, tinself koala shows he does not understand the relationship between surface area and volume, but a surface area of 1 squasre inch that is 1 inch deep has a volume of 1.75 cubic inches. And the smaller tube having a surface area of .05 square inches would only have .05 cubic inches of water if it also had a depth of 1 inch.  And without understanding this, it would not have been possible for him to understand that Heron's Fountain worked because of the different volume/mass of the pressure/elevation heads being used. The reason for this is if .05 is cubed, the answer is 0.000125 cubic inches, but with a depth of 1 inch, then it does have a volume of 0.05 cubic inches.
  What he wants is a FREE invention while discrediting Heron. And in this, Pirate88719 is fully supporting tinselfkoala. Sorry tk, but you sound so much like ab hammer aka Alan Bauldree I have trouble believing you are 2 different people. Of course, neither one of you ever posted a picture like I have of myself so everyone can know what you look like and who you really are. After all, I have posted my anme and the city and state I live in, I am not anonymous like you and bill. @All, read the first post or 2 in the threwad "My Invention" and you will see where I did openly post my name and where I live. By the way Alan, since the modified fountain if it were to work is a variation of Heron's Fountain, do not believe it would be patentable. And since Hero (Heron) was Greek, any variation of the fountain might become property of Greece. Such international laws have been passed to help protect the histories of countries, like it or not. 

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« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2012, 06:58:16 PM »
  @All,
 to keep it simple, pirate88719 and tinselfkoala are claiming that tinselfkoala invented tbe container and or barrier.
 I think Stefan should give each of them a temporary ban for making false claims.

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« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2012, 11:41:37 PM »

   CC,
 In reality, Bessler is the only person who can prove he built a wheel. because he did not do so at that time, all that can be demonstrated is that the work he left allows a person to believe he did.
 With what I have had to tolerate to work on his wheel, I could understand why no one has pursued it with much diligence.
I have had my schooling in Propulsion Enginnering, machining, design engineering, etc., etc. discounted as being meaningless.
 Bessler did say it would take a discerning eye to understand his drawings, you might say the devil is in the details. With Bessler's work, it is understanding the details that allows for his engineering to be understood. But I have done one thing differently than what I believe everybody else has done. Instead of discussing what I know, I discussed what Bessler knew.
 And with the builds I did, it helped me to understand what to look for in his drawings. Be it as it may, people prefer his words which he said he wrote for speculators.
 But as I've said before, I am in the wrong place. trying to understand an obscure part of German History about a GRAVITY wheel someone built in a German forum that IS about using gravity to understand how an overunity invention might work is plain wrong. People whose work I have never seen is credible ebcause they are attacking me. I guess the mistake is all mine.
 I shouldn't post my work when I believe what Bessler knew is like the Wright Bros. airplane, it was over everybody's heads because they went by what they knew. What the Wright Bros. did differently was to build a wind tunnel and tested wing designs. Such a simple thing really, testing idea's with a scale model before building the real thing.
 Of course, my father worked for the Boeing Airplane Co. and did work in the Research and Devolopment department. Plus I worked there also and learned a lot about how Boeing tested ideas through destructive testing. I have worked for other companies that did destructive testing to ensure that the work being done was compliant with FAA standards.
 But such experience is not considered credible in this forum. Only flaming someone is and with me, i think I am tired of it.
As AB Hammer siad, it is Bessler's wheel and anyone can build it. He is right about that but what he emant was that he could tell me what to do since i claimed to be working on Bessler's wheel. If he had a worth while idea, I would have thought differently but he really never took the time to learn something other than his armoring.
What AB hammer had to say about my concept of Bessler's wheel
>> Trevor

I did a quick modification of one of his pictures of how it will look. IMO
Now look at MT 66 to 69 and think of how much leverage not_me and what Bessler has in the MT's. The MT's have more leverage to move fluids. And this one will end up with to much weight below the 3 to 9 keel line and not enough to lift it over.<<
 pg.4, Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:38 am
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3762&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=saw+lead+melting&start=75
 What AB Hammer missed is that all the weights and all the levers create no over balance or under balance.
 So curiousChris, I think the reason Bessler's wheel will never get built is a blow hard like Alan has to get credit for saying his lack of education allowed him to inderstand what people who went to school are to stupid to learn.
 There are a few designs that could work that are not Bessler's and in the same thread I piosted where I made suggestions to Alan but as he said, his design ciould not be changed because it was better than working with someone and finding a solution.
 Talk about ego !
 
p.s., the water could be kept at the 3 o'clock position if desired. The actuation of the levers would determine when they start exerting force on the pumps and how much force over what range of motion. Kind of like valve timing in a car. The cam has lift and duration and then the timing or firing of the spark plugs will determine before, at or after top dead center for firing. It all works together.
 
 simply put CC, free energy comes from weighted levers falling as the wheel rotates. they can create more force than it requires to rotate the wheel.
 
 
 edited to add; what no one with a computer bothered to do at besslerwheel dot com, rotate the drawing 90 degrees (2nd pic). myself, was dealing with severe medical issues which I still have  :-( but as I have been told, this forum does not care about a person's health, only their ability to do what they are told.
 
3rd pic shows about how levers actually move.

Jim
I see you are still taking things out of context and misleading. How long have you talked about this idea and still don't have a finished wheel?  3? maybe 4 years?  It looks like your education is running very slow.  :o   LMAO
Again!!! leave me out or your post!!!

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« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2012, 03:13:05 AM »
You are a lousy liar, Jimmy-jimpbo johnny.

Show a link to where I claimed that the Heron's Fountain or the Zed is "my invention". YOU are the one who claimed that what I showed was YOUR IDEA.... and now that it has finally sunk in that you cannot claim that at all because of the timeline, you are now making another false claim that YOU CANNOT SUPPORT WITH PROOF or any evidence at all.

If you ever learn to read, you can read the Descriptions of my YT videos, where you will see that I give full credit to Heron of Alexander for the fountain, to MrWayne for the ZED, and to some other people who gave me suggestions and ideas. The reason YOU aren't mentioned.... is because YOU have nothing to contribute and YOU are a lazy, whining complainer who blames other people for your own failure.  Yes, Jimbpo, it was MY IDEA to put a Zed -- the nested cylinders, incorporating a moving floating riser with a second wall -- into the modified Heron's Fountain, an idea I came up with a WEEK before you ever mentioned it.... which was AFTER you saw it in my videos.

You should be banned .... again.... but this time permanently, because you cannot stop lying about other people and you can't build anything.... even though you have claimed at least six times to be able to make a perpetual motion machine. But you cannot, and it's not because anyone is preventing you. Your drawings above are garbage and will remain garbage UNTIL YOU BUILD SOMETHING THAT WORKS AS YOU SAY. But you won't, because you cannot.

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« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2012, 06:51:57 AM »
@ab hammer,
haven't seen you build anything, your point is ? You have no work of your own to discuss.
@tk,
 you and pirate88719 have been claiming for a while that I stole your idea. not possible. You nuilt the design of Heron's Fountain that pirate88719 posted in his thread.
 The water supply is the longest tube and goes lower tnan the discharge tube. With my design, only 1 chamber with a barrier is necessary. 2 completely different designs.

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« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2012, 07:35:30 AM »
Now we cant say this modified fountain you show here below is original. My version earlier of draining into the upper chamber and fountain pressure from the lower chamber is the same in concept. Your lower container is just not as low and virtually all in the same chamber of airspace.

So we take it one step further by making the upper and lower chamber and making them one.  Posting yours along with it.

It even shortens the fountain tube travel upward.  But now, which of the 4 straws(tubes) will the water rise up first? You have 3 on the left and 1 on the right. The air pressure built will be equal on all straws upward to the level of the water in the upper bowl. 

I posted the reverse level fountain a bit ago. A drawing is one thing, showing it work is another.

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« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2012, 04:22:19 PM »
Now we cant say this modified fountain you show here below is original. My version earlier of draining into the upper chamber and fountain pressure from the lower chamber is the same in concept. Your lower container is just not as low and virtually all in the same chamber of airspace.

So we take it one step further by making the upper and lower chamber and making them one.  Posting yours along with it.

It even shortens the fountain tube travel upward.  But now, which of the 4 straws(tubes) will the water rise up first? You have 3 on the left and 1 on the right. The air pressure built will be equal on all straws upward to the level of the water in the upper bowl. 

I posted the reverse level fountain a bit ago. A drawing is one thing, showing it work is another.

Mags

  show your post when making claims magluvin. As far as I know, you, gadgetmall, pirate88719 and tinselkoala are friends.
 After all, this is what pirate88719 posted and the reason I believe he and tinselkoala have earned a temporary ban.

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 Re: How long does the Modified Heron's Fountain run  « Reply #80 on: September 17, 2012, 08:35:42 PM »   Quote from: johnny874 on September 17, 2012, 07:29:59 PM<blockquote>
 who are you ? if you check this thread out, I started it and not tk. why would you credit him with what I realized ?
u gotta b one of his friends.
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TK came up with his design mods long before you did Jim.  Do you really need to see the timeline again?

Lying again.

Bill  <<

 And I think when Bill and tinselfkoala prevent me from discussing anything with other people while they promote their belief that I am lying, I think it is something Stefan needs to do somethign about. Otherwise other people might think twice about posting idea's in this forum when baseless claims can be made.
 As for building anything, have nothing to prove to you guys.
   

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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2012, 05:59:51 PM »
@ab hammer,
haven't seen you build anything, your point is ? You have no work of your own to discuss.
@tk,
 you and pirate88719 have been claiming for a while that I stole your idea. not possible. You nuilt the design of Heron's Fountain that pirate88719 posted in his thread.
 The water supply is the longest tube and goes lower tnan the discharge tube. With my design, only 1 chamber with a barrier is necessary. 2 completely different designs.

What is the matter with you? YOU HAVE BEEN CLAIMING THAT I STOLE YOUR IDEA, you lying fool.  And actually, Bill built the design that I used -- and credited -- in my first Heron's Fountain that I posted on YouTube a full WEEK before Bill even started his thread.

I cannot believe you are real. You can't even read a calendar and you don't even recall your own lies. Here, maybe this will help your memory.

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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2012, 06:13:44 PM »
Now we cant say this modified fountain you show here below is original. My version earlier of draining into the upper chamber and fountain pressure from the lower chamber is the same in concept. Your lower container is just not as low and virtually all in the same chamber of airspace.

So we take it one step further by making the upper and lower chamber and making them one.  Posting yours along with it.

It even shortens the fountain tube travel upward.  But now, which of the 4 straws(tubes) will the water rise up first? You have 3 on the left and 1 on the right. The air pressure built will be equal on all straws upward to the level of the water in the upper bowl. 

I posted the reverse level fountain a bit ago. A drawing is one thing, showing it work is another.

Mags

  You know mags, I was going to post a drawing with a detailed explanation of how your design works, but considering how you and your friends are, just doesn't feel right. After all, you guys already figured this out as you say.
 
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Re: developing idea's
« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2012, 08:09:17 PM »
  @All,
 What worries me is someone like ab hammer building something I post and saying I finally came up with a good idea.
 The quote from Alan shows he has not wanted me working on Bessler's wheel because it is HIS want. No reason why i should have to put up with someone telling me what my business is when I don't even like them.
 The reality is, because of the greed for credit I have seen from the regular members, I'll probably patent my invention and keep the money. My work is documented along with what needs to be known about this type of invention. I think it kind of shows there are to many regular members in here who only want to promote themselves and not work at soemthing like I have done. I think this is where I have learned quite a bit the time i have spent in this forum. And that is because I have worked at idea's while being aware of what I knew about math and engineering.
  To quote ab hammer;
After arguing with you over the designs in question for years and you haven't even built them. I got tired and wanted to try to put an end to this so you could move on to possibly better design.  end quote
 
 kind of hard working when someone is arguing with you because they have nothing else to do.
http://www.overunity.com/12247/pendulum-shift/msg323433/#msg323433
 
 The sad part is I probably could have had it done by now without his constant harassment.
 And all, here is a link that shows what kind of person AB Hammer aka Alan Bauldree really is. And the kicker ? My tail bone has been blocking my rectum ever since I had surgery for cancer (think over 2 1/2 years of putting up with it). I think that is funny because he tells me to shove crap back up my ass when it's blocked.
>>  So why don't you bend over, and shove that crap back up where it belongs. :( :( :(   <<
 
 Re: My Current Build  « Reply #250 on: March 20, 2009, 06:30:48 PM »     Quote from: BAHammer on March 20, 2009, 05:09:18 PM     
 
Needless to say, as I let tinselkoala know, it is a severe problem and difficult to work around. And like AB Hammer, he said no excuses. If I don't build, then he won't find me credible. Having complications from major surgery is a serious matter which niether tinselkoala nor AB Hammer believes can cause a person serious difficulties.  This is what I haven't been making known but have been trying to do what I can and for that I get flamed ?   

 

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