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Offline synchro1

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Re: Joule Motor
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2012, 09:47:40 PM »
Self inductance and capacitive reactance in output coils produces Lenz delay propulsion in the prime mover. A spontaneous charge appears in the output coil that blocks incoming current flow, then permits it. Experimenters have been backlooping BEMF to the primary coil to add power to the input pulse with no success. I don't know of anyone who has tried to direct back spike power to an output coil to increase inductive reactance, and perhaps Lenz delay propulsion. This was the theory that I postulated to help explain Lynxstream's non- understood acceleration effect.

I am currently testing my theory useing Lidmotor's Hall effect circuit. The experiment would involve wraping Lidmotor's Maggie Hi-Voltage bifilar, then run a 3 volt Zener diode from the pnp transister collector to Maggie's hot lead. Spinner r.p.m  must be past Maggie's Lenz propulsion threshold. Switch the back spike circuit on and re-measure the r.p.m.  However, my experiment no longer appears to be on topic here, so I'll resume with it on a new thread. Thanks for helping with the idea.
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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2012, 03:27:15 AM »
Synchro1

I look forward to your experiments.  I hope to learn a lot from what you are doing.  As you say, my "non-understood acceleration effect" is just that.  I don't understand a lot of what I do.  if people knew how many crazy things I try they would laugh.  Its only when I find something interesting that I start diving in to understand.

Please drop in on this thread once in a while and tell me more about Lenz Delay Propulsion.  I have so much to learn.

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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2012, 06:19:29 AM »
I did a video showing some of my experiments with tuning.  I know batteries are an unreliable source of data, and that voltage doesn't mean much without amps.  This video is just so you can watch what I am seeing and hearing.  I think it may be possible to tune this motor to operate with very little voltage drop. 

I don't trust my amp meter.  It shows between 100-275 ma draw, and 25 ma back to battery.  But I think these numbers are averages and not a good picture of what is happening.  I wish I had the test equipment you guys have, but this is a side hobby for me.

If I get the motor tuned right, the battery voltage stays about the same run after run.  This video is going to be really boring for those outside the field of our research, but I posted it so you can see what it looks and sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQyakQ3HPsM

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Offline synchro1

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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2012, 06:27:30 PM »
Lenz's law states that when a moving magnet passes a wire coil, it induces a current that causes an opposition magnetic field to appear in the output coil. The output coil's induced opposition field repels the passing magnet creating drag. A "two pole" rotating magnet spinner causes the output coil's poles to shift from one side to the other side of the coil. Lenz propulsion phase shift occurs when the spinner rotates a little faster then the output coil can switch it's poles; For a 1" spinner around 20k with bifilar series wrap. Less r.p.m with multiple rotor magnets, Heinz's d.c. motor 2.7k. When a coil charges, the charge blocks any further input.

Coil capacitance, is a consequence of self induction, and directly proportional to the Lenz delay phase shift. The output coil's Capacitive reactance, slows the output coil's ability to shift it's poles fast enough to sustain the drag lag: Thus, This slowing reactance allows the high speed spinner to edge out in front of TDC, catching a push. Something is causing your motor to speed up and act like it's perhaps dealing with a phase shift of some kind. I'll get back with my test results and a video.
 

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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2012, 07:01:52 PM »
Thank you for the detailed explanation.

There is no way this motor will approach that high of rpm speed.  I may be hitting 1000 - 3000 rpm.  The only other thing to consider is that these coils are not iron cored.  Each leg is fluxed in turn by the passing magnet.  Each leg is about .375" wide.  So there are actually eight ac pulses per revolution (2 poles, 4 legs of coil).  The center of the coil is a dead area when the pole is align on it.  The other thing which should be considered is that these are aircore coils and so there is no saturation, and the only magnetic field collapse is when the transistor turns off.  Otherwise the rise and fall of induced voltage doesn't create any kind of sudden collapse. 

Perhaps with this many ac pulses occurring at 1000-3000 rpm the effect may still pertain.  I can definitely hear a harmonic pulsing as the motor runs.  It correlates with the voltage and charge on the capacitor.  As the motor turns faster amp draw goes up slightly, then voltage goes up, motor slows amp draw declines and the cycle repeats.

Keep teaching us if you don't mind.

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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2012, 05:45:14 PM »
Two things stand out in this video. One, the 22k threshold r.p.m. for the phase shift: Two, the nearly 5lb thin wire bifilar of many wraps. This output coil maximizes self inductance and capacitive reactance. The coil's natural self power storage capacity, aided by the ferrite core, retards changes in the coil's fields.
The Joule Motor charges an aircore coil with hi-voltage backspike at 90 degrees, then after another 270 degrees of null activity, generates a.c. current. My theory is that the backspike begins to charge the secondary coil to a higher level then it's natural potential, increasing the reactive capacitance. This may be high enough to lower the threshold r.p.m. to Joule Motor speed.
 
 
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« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2012, 04:46:08 AM »
Place a diametric ring inside the core of a bifilar output coil, and Lenz delay can be achieved. The reason differs; Instead of capacitive reactance retarding the output coil, the powerfull magnet field  creates the interference.

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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 04:37:35 PM »
Hi Lynxsteam!!!

You project will continue ?

Hug!

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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 04:51:29 PM »
Team,

I am not working on the Joule Motor.  I am back to working on getting an efficient Wind Turbine kit ready for DIYers.  I think NickZ, Synchro, Joule Seeker and others will morph this area of research and find some interesting discoveries.  I do stay tuned to what you guys are doing.

I have been working on wind power for over two years at least.  The latest is a kit that you put together at a price that beats the cost of an equivalent solar panel.  I am testing a MPPT controller right now with a prototype wind turbine. MPPT stands for  "maximum power point tracking".  Wind power is a tough nut to crack because the output is wild AC and has to be tamed into a useful form of DC or AC.  This MPPT has several operating modes which can be easily adjusted, puts out charts and graphs, data logs for two weeks, and can run the power back into the grid.
The turbine is silent and can be mounted on a boat, RV, cabin or in the yard.

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