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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 07:17:31 AM »
For a change I gotta' totally agree with TK.  It's exactly as he says IMO and it's what I was saying in another message thread about this.  Battery inside the motor and one in the meter.  And I'll say again for anyone thinking it's power being transmitted from nearby that you don't get DC voltage as shown on the guy's meter (a negative voltage as the meter showed so he apparently had his hidden battery installed backwards LOL) out of a coil that is picking up transmitted power as it would always be AC and need to be rectified to get DC.   Since no diode was shown in his setup I can't see any way it would have been transmitted.   At least as far as I know there is now way to transmit DC power through the air.


Im reading  Regulated PowerSupplies 4th edition  Irving Goolieb. 

Magnetically biased chokes and transformers.   Current will flow easier in one direction than the other when pulsed or ac. Its not solid rectification. I call it soft rectification. Add that to inductance free wheeling and maybe current flows in one direction, more than the other.

So if the ant were receiving a signal ( of its preference ), then it is possible that current would more likely flow through the larger coil in the direction of easier current flow than harder. Like an AV plug, if the magnet biased coil acts as a rectifier of sorts, I can see high freq received by the pig tail possibly producing a current in the magnetically biased coil/motor circuit. 

There is not much to the setup that one couldnt 'waste a little time to try some things.

The big coil, oooo tough one. ;]
The lil piggy. weee weeeeee,  wu wu WEEEEEEEE   lol
And a hard drive reader arm magnet.  Who doesnt have one of those? ;]

Hot glue?

And the final ingredient, signal source.

A better way of debunking this is to build it and just run some simple tests on the coil with the piggy and the magnet.  Not to just say there 'is' batteries in the motor case. with that I would ask for another opinion really.

If this vid were presented to a classroom full of tech students, and the teacher offered up the same battery in the meter and motor explanations and nobody questioned it any further, even though the teacher 'assumed' his assertions, as was done here, and move on to the next lesson, what did the students learn? An opinion?  ;]

Thats why we have gov up our asses and soon reading our minds, because people choose not to question, and just accept things the way they are and will be.

Really, the guy just might have a tiny motor inside the motor case, giving room for batteries galore. But I cannot say that it is a fact!  That is for sure.

Mags

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Offline Magluvin

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 07:58:43 AM »
Ya know, if the vid had 3 more coils, a couple caps, diodes, 'leds' and 2 10in. ant, it might be getting more attn. Kapanadze? Lots of coils, caps, sparks, transistors, computer fans, dual grounds, lots of lit light bulbs. Lots of parts makes it more believable I suppose.

But here, 3 parts, coil, ant and a 'hard drive' magnet, N and S on the same face, and it is dismissed based on what? lol Based on 'its been done before?'  I never seen it, anywhere. You?  Got one layin around that didnt work? lol  I thought the magnet to be very useless at first sight. But then I thought, its a HD mag, N on one side of the coil and S on the other, giving a N to S field in the coil. So it is a magnetically biased coil.
Im not saying mag bias is a key to FE. But we cannot say it couldnt be an ingredient. ;]


Its like Wilby coming in and posting, "hey Mags, there is no God. "  And I should just say, "Oh, Thanks man, I didnt know. Good looking out. Whew, good thing I didnt get more involved with all that."  Just accepting a mans word, for anything, without question.
Science is all about questioning and searching for the answers, isnt it? Not speculating and accepting that as fact. Is it? Heck, might as well shut this site down and get into the   p o r n ( wont accept the word p**n in the post????)industry. Because we are all just meat with eyes.

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 09:32:01 AM »
Hi folks, I feel what you are saying magluvin.
If this is a hoax and you all want to know why people would do this without getting paid or do get paid, precisely to elicit a response of anger and distrust of others.
To get people to not pay attention to excess energy claims anymore and to try and cause people to not experiment.
They like to say edison was a genius or even tesla, they were not much different from us, they just experimented with a determination and focus.
Which is precisely what the controllers of humanity do not want, unless it is supervised in secret with them lurking over your shoulder.
To me, all the provable hoaxes prove one thing, that their is something lurking in the minds of humans that does not belong there and/or humans need food and stuff, so it's hard to blame some when money can buy that stuff, know what i mean.
All so called authority on this planet would have zero authority, if people in general, questioned and made real investigations into things that matter in their lives.
And as magluvin points out, claiming something is fake or not without evidence, serves no positive constructive purpose, same goes for other human beings claiming some kind of authority over others, just because they say so or i was elected or the people said i am ruler, lol.
peace love light 

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Offline TinselKoala

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 10:34:57 AM »
Some people go to the movies and even though they know they are watching fiction, they might still believe some of the things in the movie. It's not unusual for stage magicians to be accused of really having magical or psychic powers by believers in the audience.

These things aren't hoaxes! The presenter is performing a magic trick for you, creating an illusion. If you _choose to see_ it as a demonstration of something real, then you might see "hoax" in it when you find out it's not real. But as a thing is viewed, so it appears. That "hoax" is coming from you, not the illusionist.

Myself, I don't feel hoaxed at all. When I saw the video I immediately saw how he could be doing it, and I immediately ruled out wireless power because of what I know to be true, the size and type of the components shown, and the behaviour of the circuit. What's left? Magic, high current fingers... or concealed batteries.

When you take a jigsaw puzzle out of the box, are you angry that the "hoaxers" didn't assemble it, so it looks like the picture on the box?
(Do people even have time to do jigsaw puzzles any more, I wonder?)

That tiny antenna would operate most efficiently in the GHz range if it were a radio receiver, and that magnet is doing nothing like "biasing" that coil to turn it into a rectifier/detector of RF. I mean... mine worked without the magnet, so that proves that.  Right?
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 02:33:02 PM »
Deleted.Too busy working on real things .
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 09:55:17 PM »
I think TK was smart enough not to get trapped into saying that he knows how he DID it. He and others said and showed how he COULD have done it. The guy could have faked it another way. If others tried to replicate it and couldn't, that also doesn't mean its fake (just that it very likely fake). If he swears its not fake, tries to replicate it, can't replicate it, that STILL doesn't mean it's fake.

Basically that's why we can never know, even if the poster themselves said its fake. So what are we left with?

As someone who has been wanting to put up videos on a few very simple things I've hesitated, because I know that people are going to dismiss them out of hand. "If that were real, people would have found that out by now!" they'll say. That is why tricksters/hoaxers bother me, because they encourage a skeptical attitude, least one be made look silly for believing. That skeptical mindset hasn't gotten us OU, but at least no ones gonna pull one over on us!

So TK, while I get your analogy of a magician or a movie, I don't agree. When I go see a magician, I might not know HOW I'm being tricked, but I do know that I'm being tricked. If the tricksters want to amaze and impress us, do like TK does(alt.snakeoil means be wary) and give an indication in the title or comment. Something like "video is Rossi-esque", or "video is Rossified".

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 10:18:15 PM »
Mark thats is what separates the Men from the boys  We man up and tell out front unlike the hacker dude . HE will not allow you to know he is a fake . Like Crist Angel when he made his first appearance .he had to be taken down by another Masked magician to show the illusions.  . .and how many Experiments have you done in the last 4 years ? I was fooled like every one else and built the damn thing . same hard drive magnet freken counted the coils ,diameter . and  Feel Betrayed and stupid  because of that jerk hacker. Try it . T you can build this 100,000.00 different ways and there is no way possible he has a "Secret dc transmitter "to produce the voltage and current of 5.9 VDC and run a dc motor .impossible .I have repeatedly asked him to do a video "unedited" and read the battery then if it's 9 volts . ok then read the "coil" . He refused . and the simple second thing is short the terminals of the meter . Simple and any inventor  asked would not ignore you if they WERE NOT  faking and accused of it.
what we know that you don;t is if he tried to read that 9 volt battery it would add or subtract the exact voltage of the rigged meter batteries . and He Know IF HE shorts out the rigged motor with a metal object it runs. :)
Any free energy experimenter that has video channel on this board or energetic forum would be more than happy to do it again if they were called a fake. This guy IS a fake.he can't talk the talk or walk the walk.
It's pointless except believe what you want to believe .BUILD and Learn !@! that will never change in all of us . I believe in free energy . Not scammers. .
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 01:44:33 AM »
@gadgetmall... heh, it was fun thinking of ways to "fekk" all the items you listed. Let's see....

1) metering the 9v battery: take the battery's guts out and replace with 3 volts of button cells. Combined with the batteries in the meter and the motor, the motor will run fine when touched to the battery terminals and the meter will indicate 9 volts when the battery is measured.
Then read the coil...you get the six volts from the meter battery.

2) Shorting the motor terminals with a metal object: but which motor terminals? Maybe you need to provide continuity from the motor _case_  to one terminal to make it run by the internal batteries, and if you use the regular terminals it works like a  normal motor. Easy to do and easy to make one of the coil's alligator clips contact the case when hooking the coil up. So you could short the terminals with metal, no run. Provide  known DC power to the terminals, run. Hook up coil to the terminals.... with one clip touching the case in a non-obvious way.... run, but on the concealed batteries.

I also like the idea of making the  meter probe leads interruptible by some kind of hidden switch in the probe, like maybe a springloaded tip that made real contact only when depressed, but could be touched sideways to something without making real contact to the meter circuit.

Even better you could rip out the meter's guts and replace it with an Arduino programmed to display different values for different  meter switch settings or number of probe touches.

The moral of the story: always bring your own meter!

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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 03:22:43 AM »
@gadgetmall... heh, it was fun thinking of ways to "fekk" all the items you listed. Let's see....

1) metering the 9v battery: take the battery's guts out and replace with 3 volts of button cells. Combined with the batteries in the meter and the motor, the motor will run fine when touched to the battery terminals and the meter will indicate 9 volts when the battery is measured.
Then read the coil...you get the six volts from the meter battery.

2) Shorting the motor terminals with a metal object: but which motor terminals? Maybe you need to provide continuity from the motor _case_  to one terminal to make it run by the internal batteries, and if you use the regular terminals it works like a  normal motor. Easy to do and easy to make one of the coil's alligator clips contact the case when hooking the coil up. So you could short the terminals with metal, no run. Provide  known DC power to the terminals, run. Hook up coil to the terminals.... with one clip touching the case in a non-obvious way.... run, but on the concealed batteries.

I also like the idea of making the  meter probe leads interruptible by some kind of hidden switch in the probe, like maybe a springloaded tip that made real contact only when depressed, but could be touched sideways to something without making real contact to the meter circuit.

Even better you could rip out the meter's guts and replace it with an Arduino programmed to display different values for different  meter switch settings or number of probe touches.

The moral of the story: always bring your own meter!

SHEEEIT ! well if he reads this forum i guess his next video will go viral ;  0  )
and even snake oil get  IS THIS REAL  !  And i want to puke every time i log in on the front page . Stephan should know better to run that crap day after day . depressing .     It has already drove me Craaaaa zy .
The Coil . the COIYALL .... Must check the Voltage on the COIL .

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2012, 04:06:04 AM »
I sort of have to agree.  If I go see a magician...I KNOW I am about to be tricked.  Alt.snakeoil....same thing right?  Mylow....not so much....this coil guy....not so much.  It would not surprise me if he were to start selling kits.....

Ever Lasersaber did something like this for April fool's day...knowing that smart folks would know it was a joke....but...he said it was a joke.  That, to me, is the big difference.

I agree Stefan should remove that video.  He is still traveling in Europe and will be for a while.

Bill

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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 04:59:26 AM »
Heh.... I'm glad the point of the alt.snakeoil video reports is starting to sink in. Not always or even mostly "fake" either.... I present real stuff with silly explanations more often than not, to poke fun at the silly explanations. The electrostatic demonstrations are like that: totally real, no fakery, just silly explanations.

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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 05:19:04 AM »
TK:

I knew that.  I didn't mean to imply that they were all fakery. (A Mylow word)  Although, it would really not bother me all that much if a guy (or gal) got OU and gave an inaccurate  explanation for why it was happening.  Possibly, this could be me one day.

Bill

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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2012, 09:04:56 AM »
@gadgetmall - ".  . .and how many Experiments have you done in the last 4 years ?"

Well, I'm no TK, or Lidmotor, or Skycollection, but I've done a lot of playing around with things. I didn't mean to imply that I thought that this guy was honestly trying to show something anomalous. His refusal to engage with anyone on the subject kinda gives it away. I also enjoy trying to figure out how something can be faked.

What I hate is trying to figure out why someone is getting anomalous results, and in this case, planning on trying a replication since it was so simple, when there isn't actually anything worth pursuing there because someone is being less than honest about what they are showing.

The fact that it was so simple didn't deter me, since I suspect that there is gold to be mined from simple things that maybe no one in the last 50 years or so have tried. Consider Tesla's "hairpin" circuit. That sucker is pretty simple! It produces some really strange effects, but how many people have played with it since Tesla? Five people? Ten people? If Tesla wasn't the source on it, probably even fewer than that would have played with it.

@Pirate88179 - I too don't hold it against someone who's theory of how something works turns out to be wrong. Hopefully, if enough people replicate something, a testable causal mechanism will emerge..

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2012, 01:33:49 PM »
It's cool mark . .I was one of the first to be fooled also and DID build it. The anomalous effect is it is a piece of copper wire and when you wave a magnet over it it induces a small movement on your meter . The other effect is your finger acid touching the probe against copper produces a few micro volts .It just this  Board Owner is not stupid . and i want to puke every time i see that guy get a hit for his scam trick . see he makes money from google every time someone loads that video . and STEPHAN is helping him .he is getting rich  from adsense . can be as much as 30 cents per page load  times  what 100000 plus hits for a fake video .

Correction . The guy so far has got 33,000 plus page  loads from three fake Videos . times that by 30 cents . thats a $9900.00 thousand dollar check sent to him every month if allowed to continue . This Site ALSO makes Money every time the front page is loaded and plus shows his video . So thats a BIG Check .
I have adsense .Anyone can sign up for it and link youtube . i get a tiny check when it adds up to 10 dollars so i know it's a real income . Once i made 120.00 a month for a web site , but 10000.00 dollars for Making a Fake Video is the BOSS. If you were this Guy and made that kind of money would you admit it fake . Hell no . He will keep going now that he saw that check come in . And so will Stephan . Nothing personal but i started a LOCKED TOPIC "MAKING MONEY WITH YOUR FAKE VIDEO . HOW TO >>should i unlock it?


The Point is Someone had to step up to the plate and tell it like it is .I risk probably getting banned but I Believe in truth and i guess . Im your captain . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MYsii4DZY

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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2012, 04:47:58 PM »
Here's a video of a stationary free energy generating coil that really works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XMfCpUzq_g&list=UUGj-eKaG5_tMGNr_yuLePkA&index=6&feature=plcp3

 

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