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Author Topic: Free energy generating coil.  (Read 89303 times)

Offline synchro1

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Free energy generating coil.
« on: September 10, 2012, 04:32:48 PM »
Overunity currently features a front page video of a thick copper wire coil with a thick center tap spiral copper wire leading nowhere, and a horseshoe VCR magnet glued to the bottem. The video shows the coil and magnet generating 5.92 volts, and running a 9 volt D.C. motor.

I found measured voltage in a bifilar coil with a diametric tube magnet placed in the air core. This effect was tested and reported by me on the forums and adds legitimacy to this incredible video, which seemingly defys logic. This looks simple enough to replicate. I believe it's worth a try.

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 05:11:07 PM »
For me, it is obviously a wireless energy transfer, where the other coil (energy emitter) is hidden of camera lens.

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 06:38:24 PM »
Overunity currently features a front page video of a thick copper wire coil with a thick center tap spiral copper wire leading nowhere, and a horseshoe VCR magnet glued to the bottem. The video shows the coil and magnet generating 5.92 volts, and running a 9 volt D.C. motor.

I found measured voltage in a bifilar coil with a diametric tube magnet placed in the air core. This effect was tested and reported by me on the forums and adds legitimacy to this incredible video, which seemingly defys logic. This looks simple enough to replicate. I believe it's worth a try.
This is quite different from what you describe however.  I don't see any reason to think this is real based on your experiment.  What voltage and current did you see on your setup?  Enough to run a small DC motor?   I really doubt it.  I can see voltage across any small piece of wire with a good meter or O-scope as long as just one lead is connected.  I hate to admit I even tried this but it was way to simple for me and I found the wire size he used stated somewhere and already had a piece just the right length in that exact gauge.  Took about 5 minutes including hot gluing a hard drive magnet to it.  Even used the same exact size alligator clips.  Nada.  Nothing.  No voltage and no current.  O-scope saw a little but only if I had one lead connected.  Connect to both ends and it drops to nothing.  I can read more voltage on that o-scope from my finger or a straight piece of wire the same length.  It's just picking up stray EMF. 
This whole thing is as fake as it gets.  Just a creative magician. 

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Offline gadgetmall

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 07:06:02 PM »
For me, it is obviously a wireless energy transfer, where the other coil (energy emitter) is hidden of camera lens.
@synchro it's Busted ..By Tk ...your  beating a dead Horse ! The Guy is a TrIxTEr .already Dissussed and it is a FAKE GUYS .here you go read on and see http://www.overunity.com/12670/solid-state-free-energy-device-rebuilt-it-but-unsuccessful/

and if you want to cut to the chase Tk's magic coil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koNnPYjeKDE


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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 10:45:01 PM »
The motor has a couple of button cells concealed inside it. The coil assembly is just a short, a jumper, nothing more. It makes the circuit connection inside the motor for its concealed button cells. Note how weakly his motor runs towards the end of the demo... the little batteries are going flat.

The meter is also "fekked" (a magician's term). As shown below. Again, the coil just acts as a jumper, to make the connection externally so that the meter measures the voltage of the concealed batteries.  Just make sure you leave the meter in the right range when you are doing this trick. You could even fekk the 9v battery, so that it would read the 6 v from the meter's internal battery plus the 3 volts you have hidden in the 9v case, to give a reading of 9v when you pretend to measure its voltage. This would also help the effect when you show the motor connected to the 9v..... you'd have its hidden 3v in series with the motor's hidden cells.

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Offline baroutologos

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 11:24:54 PM »
Same sheat :) every time with this forum. One claims OU and thats it and every one jumps up and down (icluding me in the past) trying to replicate always unsuccesfully.


Behind every claim, should be a priciple presented along with a working prototype, or else a waste of time.

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 01:11:58 AM »
@ Tinselkoala,
I think this is like your wireless energy transfer rig, in his meter it shows neg voltage same as your finding, maybe his transmitter is strapped onto his body, fake!



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Offline TinselKoala

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 01:59:43 AM »
Well, if you have faith and knowledge in the accepted principles, you can rule out a lot of things right away. One principle being that nobody is going to show an energy-extractor like that, in a YT video, if it were real, therefore it must be faked in some way.
If you had a device that really _really_ did what that one does.... would you just put it in a nice YT video to show your friends, then just go on about your regular day? Somehow I doubt it.

Once you understand that, the rest is just a jigsaw puzzle to be assembled to look pretty.

Seriously, though.... the actual principles of physics that we are pretty sure are correct.... they may be incomplete, we hope, but a lot of it is undeniably correct.... will allow the same kind of evaluation. If what you are seeing is inconsistent with what you already _know_ is correct, then it's likely that you are misinterpreting what you are seeing in some way. You may be deliberately misled, or you may be fooling yourself by looking at, and for, what you want to see.

As a thing is viewed... so it appears.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 02:03:45 AM »
@ Tinselkoala,
I think this is like your wireless energy transfer rig, in his meter it shows neg voltage same as your finding, maybe his transmitter is strapped onto his body, fake!
No, there is no wireless power in his video! The extra hidden batts are just hooked up so that the meter reads negative. It would read negative with either side of the coil hooked to the red meter lead, too! Just like mine above.

What he shows is way easier to fake just with some tiny batteries in the motor and the meter, just as I showed. The wireless power system requires more components in the receiver and also varies according to position. As he moves around, the voltage reading is rock-steady. Nothing is coming from his little coil, except a short circuit.

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 05:22:49 AM »
TK:

Thank you very much.  I was actually considering trying to replicate this when I came across his videos on youtube last week.  You called it by what I saw that held me back....here he has this great "invention" and yet he posts another 3 videos after of some lame type of things.  Not something I would do if I indeed really "had it".

So, thank you for confirming what my gut was telling me.  I might have still tried a replication just to be sure but after reading your posts, I am sure.

Which brings up the point Bart was making.....WTF?  Why?  Why do folks insist upon doing this sh*t?  Sure, I am positive I could fake some cool looking videos too if I put my mind to it but....what is the point?  I really just don't get it.

Crap like this always reminds me of the Mylow saga.  Very depressing.

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Re: Free energy generating coil.
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2012, 05:50:51 AM »
Lets say that MAYBE the magnet, N over one side of the larger coil and S over the other side, causing a rectifying effect in the larger coil.

If the pigtail were an antenna, what freq does it 'look'(round abouts)like it would respond to? Maybe adding each half of the larger coil to it, and maybe even the winding of the motor as part of the ant.

Just wondering if it were possible if he had a driver coil somewhere.

Ive been reading on magnet biased cores, and it seems like possibly 'soft' rectification could be had with the magnet fields N to S biasing the air core of that larger coil.

Just thinking, with less negative 'assumption'. ;]

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 06:02:50 AM »
Mags:

I should probably state my position that, if indeed it were an antenna making that kind of power from radio, cell towers, etc.  I would be thrilled with it.  I have argued with some folks about the antenna deal on other devices.  They say it is not free energy because the signals come from a radio station.  I say, if I can light up something, the radio station does not have to output any more than it does.  One fellow on youtube actually told me that if only 1 person has their radio on, the radio station cranks back their power....but if a lot of folks are listening, they have to crank up their power so I would be stealing from them.  I say, the towers have no idea how many devices are turned on and just output what they are designed to output.

My reason for getting into this is that if it were to be true that it was an antenna....that would bother me not at all.  I am afraid TK is correct if for no other reason than the guy moved on to other simple projects after developing a device that could win the Nobel prize.  I just don't think real folks do that sort of thing.

Bill

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 06:26:02 AM »
Mags:

I should probably state my position that, if indeed it were an antenna making that kind of power from radio, cell towers, etc.  I would be thrilled with it.  I have argued with some folks about the antenna deal on other devices.  They say it is not free energy because the signals come from a radio station.  I say, if I can light up something, the radio station does not have to output any more than it does.  One fellow on youtube actually told me that if only 1 person has their radio on, the radio station cranks back their power....but if a lot of folks are listening, they have to crank up their power so I would be stealing from them.  I say, the towers have no idea how many devices are turned on and just output what they are designed to output.

My reason for getting into this is that if it were to be true that it was an antenna....that would bother me not at all.  I am afraid TK is correct if for no other reason than the guy moved on to other simple projects after developing a device that could win the Nobel prize.  I just don't think real folks do that sort of thing.

Bill

Well, I was thinking of a near by transmitter, like under the table or off to the left or right. The 5v range, if I were to have a circuit that absorbed cell transmission from a cell phone, would the received result be in the 5v range? Like those led ant lights that were sold that lit when your phone was active.

Like we could come up with many many ways of if there were a batt inside the meter. or just say that there 'are' batteries in the motor casing, without evidence, and it is just accepted? If we are to call that science, we are doomed. ;]

If we make a habit of this, how many possible real devices might be overlooked with this habitry?  Habitry?  My new word. Habitry. ;]   Im not going to get myself into all that habitry. ;]

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2012, 06:40:44 AM »
For a change I gotta' totally agree with TK.  It's exactly as he says IMO and it's what I was saying in another message thread about this.  Battery inside the motor and one in the meter.  And I'll say again for anyone thinking it's power being transmitted from nearby that you don't get DC voltage as shown on the guy's meter (a negative voltage as the meter showed so he apparently had his hidden battery installed backwards LOL) out of a coil that is picking up transmitted power as it would always be AC and need to be rectified to get DC.   Since no diode was shown in his setup I can't see any way it would have been transmitted.   At least as far as I know there is now way to transmit DC power through the air. 

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 07:01:40 AM »
For a change I gotta' totally agree with TK.  It's exactly as he says IMO and it's what I was saying in another message thread about this.  Battery inside the motor and one in the meter.  And I'll say again for anyone thinking it's power being transmitted from nearby that you don't get DC voltage as shown on the guy's meter (a negative voltage as the meter showed so he apparently had his hidden battery installed backwards LOL) out of a coil that is picking up transmitted power as it would always be AC and need to be rectified to get DC.   Since no diode was shown in his setup I can't see any way it would have been transmitted.   At least as far as I know there is now way to transmit DC power through the air.

Agreed.  Also, in looking again at the close-up on the homepage of the motor...I have many of these types of motors I am playing with, I wondered why he had the tie-wrap around the end of the motor?  Well, if you look at the exposed end....that is not where you take it apart.  it comes apart at the other end and to hide his "demolition", he installed the tie-wrap around that end of the motor to hide the damage done.  There is no other reason for that nylon tie.  Sure, it makes a nice handle, but it would work the same, or probably better, if wrapped around the center, or balance point of the motor right?

Bill

 

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