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yg_34

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2012, 06:26:31 PM »
Yes, I agree totally.

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2012, 06:38:55 PM »
I see that great minds think alike.
 ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koNnPYjeKDE

Inside the meter there is a solder bridge that makes the connection from the negative probe lead socket to the circuit board. I just desoldered this connection and hooked up there a battery pack made of 2 x CR2025 batteries, just taped together with cellotape, didn't even solder leads to the batteries, just taped them on. There is plenty of room inside the meter for the batteries behind the display. You could probably get 10 of them in there.
You don't have that on public do you :) Thanks TK and yes you know i am ROFL .

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2012, 07:01:53 PM »
Ok guys anyone want to go hunting and kill more birds ? hey heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&;NR=1&;v=xR6Qait2JGY   :) Magnetl powered motor . Yg_34 care to give your opinion ? I know how and why .and you should too. the internet is full of amazing things and some will get even the best going .


You know these People are giving us a bad name . I think they are Jealous of us from the accomplishments we all have made . It is our duty to expose them ,shun them , kill them and give them what they deserve .only thing we can do is unlike them and don't subscribe to them and rebuke them as TK did .

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2012, 07:10:20 PM »
I have a similar can motor to the one shown in the video, and I just checked it to see if it would run on button cells. With 2 x 357 cells in series it runs almost exactly like the one in the video and for about the same amount of time, moderately fast at first and getting slow towards the end. I took the motor apart and there is _almost_ enough room in there for the 2 batteries without any modification!! A little work with a Dremel tool, or some smaller batteries, or an extended motor housing with the tie-wrap conveniently covering the join..... and you've got the motor sorted.

I know how I'd do the nails in the block motor, too......

ETA: Don't take it so seriously! These folks are teaching us something. If they were seriously claiming overunity or perpetual motion and trying to get funding or win a prize or something like that it would be different. But these are "magic tricks" of illusionists; critical thinking exercises. The reason no "replicators" are successful with these things is because they are not trying to replicate what they are actually seeing, they are trying to replicate what they _believe_ they are seeing, what their hopes and fears make them to see. On the other hand, when one sets out to duplicate what is _actually shown_..... it turns out not to be that hard. It took me 5 minutes to modify and test my faked DMM, and most of that was waiting for the soldering iron to warm up. I didn't actually make a faked motor, but 10 minutes of experimentation and dissecting convinced me that another hour spent working on it would produce something that duplicated what was shown, exactly, even down to the tie-wrap in its strange position.

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2012, 09:07:41 PM »
You don't have that on public do you :) Thanks TK and yes you know i am ROFL .
"You have to wind the coil in opposite directions to get DC out of it..."  lol

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2012, 09:26:35 PM »
\ TK . Mighty Fine teacher and Turkey Killer .I am sure the new Guys appreciate you as much i do.

Thanks for Helping em out . And me too 

(Hell no i ain't takin my meters apart for no scamming)


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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2012, 09:49:20 PM »
You might be surprised at the trouble people will go through to fool you.

Imagine this: you and a friend are walking to his pickup out in the parking lot, talking. He spies a bent nail on the ground, and says to you, "watch this, I learned this from Michael Faraday himself, speaking to me in a dream the other night". He reaches down and picks up the bent nail and shows it to you clearly, even lets you handle it for a moment, and it is certainly quite bent, almost 90 degrees of bend to it. Then he puts it in the palm of his hand and begins to stroke it gently..... and before your very eyes, it straightens... and unbends.... and straightens out until it is perfectly straight. Then he uses a rock to pound the straight nail into a piece of wood in the back of his truck.

What he knows and you don't, is that for 60 bucks you can buy a Nitinol nail from a magic supply house........ and it's not very risky to leave it sitting on the ground for a few minutes, until it's "found" and picked up for the illusion.

I once flabbergasted a bunch of psychic believers, by bending a spoon.... a _plastic_ spoon, in front of them.... they thought. All the more amazing because I had one of them go to the corner store and bring back an unopened package of plastic cutlery, from which they selected the spoon they wanted me to bend, which they marked and handed to me. Unfortunately.... I managed to break that one "accidentally" and so we had to use a second spoon from the box... which they also marked, but _after_ they had already given it to me -- marked while I was holding onto it. Of course by that time I had already switched the new spoon for the "faked" one that I had prepared beforehand by twisting it over a candle flame and concealed in my clothing. When I "produced" the twisted spoon along with the patter and misdirection.... everybody there (the ones who didn't know me already that is) believed that I had actually psychically twisted the _plastic_, highly breakable spoon.
The hardest part was buying the three different brands of plastic cutlery at the corner market, hours before hand,  and preparing a faked spoon from each set and then remembering where I had stashed the different spoons! I had no control over which brand the person sent to the store would select so I had to have one for each different pattern of plasticware.

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2012, 10:06:05 PM »
However, in all fairness: Just because some device or effect can be faked, that does NOT mean, necessarily, that the original device or effect was faked.

But if fakery is the only way that makes sense, and is consistent with the observations.... then it is highly probable to be the correct explanation. It's that "consistent with observation" that is the bugbear. David Copperfield makes the Statue of Liberty disappear by rotating the entire audience to look in a different direction, and then rotating them back to make it reappear again, without them even noticing.....

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2012, 10:36:03 PM »
I am annoyed. Annoyed by the fact people waste our time with these kind of fakes videos. Do they think it's funny? Yeah, as fun as a lie.

They could be honest. They could title their videos with "almost overunity", "on the edge of free energy" or "nearly perpetual motion". Phrases which make people find these videos easily, make them interested, but still remain true.

It escapes my mind how and why people spend so much time to make fake videos and fake devices at all - especially if they have nothing to gain from it, not even money. Even when they are desperate for free energy and have failed in their own experiments it doesn't justify to start this stupidity. Once people start bullshitting, I tend to ignore them and their works. I'm certainly not the only one who does that. Is it that what these people want?

Thanks for the fake replication TK, I know you just did this to show how easy this fake can be done. It was funny the way you presented and described it  ;) , but it ain't funny the way the original video was made. We've had enough Mylows, Mike Bradies, Lifehackers now...

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2012, 11:19:56 PM »
I am annoyed. Annoyed by the fact people waste our time with these kind of fakes videos. Do they think it's funny? Yeah, as fun as a lie.

They could be honest. They could title their videos with "almost overunity", "on the edge of free energy" or "nearly perpetual motion". Phrases which make people find these videos easily, make them interested, but still remain true.

It escapes my mind how and why people spend so much time to make fake videos and fake devices at all - especially if they have nothing to gain from it, not even money. Even when they are desperate for free energy and have failed in their own experiments it doesn't justify to start this stupidity. Once people start bullshitting, I tend to ignore them and their works. I'm certainly not the only one who does that. Is it that what these people want?

Thanks for the fake replication TK, I know you just did this to show how easy this fake can be done. It was funny the way you presented and described it  ;) , but it ain't funny the way the original video was made. We've had enough Mylows, Mike Bradies, Lifehackers now...

Is there a list of fakes? It's hard to seperate the fakes from the genuines on YouTube.

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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2012, 11:30:57 PM »
gadgetmall, can this fake monopole magnet be made of two magnets. S-N-metal-N-S. ? If it is so, we can say it is not fake :)

gauschor you are right. There are lots of tests, experiments we should do.

And yes TinselKoala Just because some device or effect can be faked, that does NOT mean, necessarily, that the original device or effect was faked.
We can add to this, almost any device can be faked.


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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2012, 02:24:48 AM »
 :) That magnet has N and S  poles . It's called a diametric magnet . The poles are actually on the edges instead of the sides of this disk magnet .Theres no such thing as a magnet with two like poles Hmmm . unless you glue 2 together and even then i suppose they will still have an  NS pole some where  because it's magnets . . There is a hidden battery of coarse and the Nails are connected to the battery . Battery ,Magnet ,copper wire and theres your motor . if you notice the magnet is touching one of the nails to make contact . .. Fake fake Fakeso it's a real fake :-\ . you can make a motor with those three items . Search for Worlds simplest motor .
And here is a DIY to make a similar motor like in the link above http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it_Z7NdKgmY

gadget .

edit I have never tried to glue 2 of my Neo 52 gauss magnets . they are too strong. But hey i am sure some one will try it .i don't see a benefit of this unless your messing with SMOT projects.nothing magic will happen to wire like make it move or produce voltage.
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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2012, 01:21:49 PM »
And New people even if your a guest or you have a new name ,you are welcome here and if i can help i will if not them someone with more brain power can.
I once was told i have a reptilian brain but in actuality i have had a stroke 7 years ago and a 1/4 of it is dead . It was only then that my free energy brain kicked in and reprogrammed other areas.

If you feel something is a fake please bring it to our attention and we can analyze  it  . there are some very real things that seem fake also and that is what keeps us in our Quest .

Gadget


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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2012, 09:15:56 PM »
Didn't get any response from the guy yet.

I'm subscribed to his channel so I get messages when he has new videos and he made two legit videos today.
Also the rest of his videos seem to be legit.
So if he is faking these 2, why? ...

I love the way he harvested the magnets  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttcLQgTLC8M


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Re: "solid state free energy device" - rebuilt it but unsuccessful
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2012, 09:18:11 PM »
And New people even if your a guest or you have a new name ,you are welcome here and if i can help i will if not them someone with more brain power can.
I once was told i have a reptilian brain but in actuality i have had a stroke 7 years ago and a 1/4 of it is dead . It was only then that my free energy brain kicked in and reprogrammed other areas.

If you feel something is a fake please bring it to our attention and we can analyze  it  . there are some very real things that seem fake also and that is what keeps us in our Quest .

Gadget

Did you already do "free energy" experiments before the stroke? And what part is dead? I'm amazed by the human brain.