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Author Topic: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch  (Read 17810 times)

Butch

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Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« on: July 19, 2006, 09:55:54 PM »
During the testing of the FCMG ( Flux Compression Motor Generator ), I developed a new circuit. It is the first circuit from my research that dictates overunity mathematically. First configuration predicts 4 watts in, 76 watts out. No batteries or capacitors. I will release information after patent filing. This is the result of many long years of theory, testing, help from more people that I can list here and many sleepless nights. I must say it has been fun all the way though.
Butch LaFonte
7-19-06
Note: FCMG testing will be completed when sensors arrive in the mail.

OffGrid rdnck

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2007, 04:52:09 PM »
Mail delivery must be really slow where you live. ;D

I guess while you were waiting, you must have a whole garage full of 'overuity" devices made.
Perhaps you should enter the "American inventor" contest on TV.  ::)

Dingus Mungus

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2007, 12:22:01 AM »
It has been a year... Any chance of getting that schematic still?

Ergo

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2007, 07:36:03 PM »
Don't you get it.
It never worked. He just imagined it should work but ones he tested it closely it was not OU.

Butch

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 03:46:57 PM »
Like so many of the 1200 designs I've came up with, I didn't have instrumentation to test it properly or the funds to develop it. Mark builds all the test models and he is on the other side of the country from me. When we get an idea and can't develop it due to proper test equipment or funding, we just move on to something else. It would be best to say it was a failure and play it safe. Who knows, if we ever get large funding there is a shop full of just started designs and ideas that might work. I know this, I'm building machines, coming up with ideas (over 1200), posting them to the web. I feel it does more for overunity research than just hanging out on the list.
Have I had failures? I have had countless failures, but at least I'm in the arena, not sitting in the stands.
Butch

Ergo

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 03:50:30 PM »
Have I had failures? I have had countless failures, but at least I'm in the arena, not sitting in the stands.
Butch

But have you ever had the slightest confirmed OU in your 1200 designs?
Well, I guess not, or we would not have this discussion.  ;D

Dingus Mungus

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 04:03:04 PM »
Have I had failures? I have had countless failures, but at least I'm in the arena, not sitting in the stands.
Butch

But have you ever had the slightest confirmed OU in your 1200 designs?
Well, I guess not, or we would not have this discussion.  ;D

How many design have you attempted Ergo?
Something tells me you're just one more airchair builder.
Big mouth, but never really trys to do anything cool.
If I'm wrong fine, doesn't bother me, you just seem the type.
(post some pics of some cool shit you built to make me the asshole)

I was just looking for an update or explanation of the circuit.
~Dingus Mungus

Butch

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 11:55:36 PM »
Have I had failures? I have had countless failures, but at least I'm in the arena, not sitting in the stands.
Butch

But have you ever had the slightest confirmed OU in your 1200 designs?
Well, I guess not, or we would not have this discussion.  ;D

Ergo,
I have developed the same number of overunity machines as anybody else in the world to date, including you.
Zero!
Butch

Humbugger

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2007, 01:48:43 PM »
Hi, Butch...

I appreciate your frankness and honesty.  As a newbie here but a guy who designed commercial electronic products professionally for 40 years (1967-2007), it is really interesting to read all this stuff here but there sure are a lot of people claiming OU.

It seems like each person thinks they are the first true OU inventor...as you say in your last post here, though, the actual score is still zero to zero to zero to zero...ad nauseum.

I find it weird, given all that, that so many folks believe in it to the extent of spending all their free time chasing OU machines when they admit no one has achieved it and the conventional laws of physics seem to disallow it.  It's even stranger that many, like Stefan who runs the place, seem to think that there are dozens of working OU machines out there, at least from what I gather, yet he has never given away his prize money. 

Oddly, it seems most enthusiastic innovative builders like yourself and Bill Mehess as examples, have at times claimed to have developed OU (like this thread's title promises) but then have these long periods of quiet before later admitting that nope, no OU was invented.  Why don't any of you guys who have had some experience tricking yourselves seem to ever come out with the stories of how you managed to fool yourselves, where you went wrong (lack of knowledge, bad measurements, live next door to a 10 MW Navy Radar base, etc) and all that sort of thing?

You see, I don't think there are many true frauds and liars here...but each time I read these outrageous OU claims at the thread beginning, it seems to always peter out with no real explanation of why.  Seems you guys that are building wildly are really sincere and basically earnest and honest, but have a common tendency to get a bit premature and carried away with the claims at times. 

Some retrospective insight into just how and why that seems to happen so often might be a really great teaching tool here!  Of course, it takes some guts to explain just how you fooled yourself, but, what the heck...we all know you wildman builders have plenty of guts!

Seems like most threads that start with amazing claims of OU putter back down to dull reality in the end as "another one bites the dust".  Yet we never read about what exactly happened...the embarassing details of self delusion and amateur mistakes.  Why is that?  Seems like that's where 99% of the learning is and a lot of guys are repeating each others' follies here because those bits of the story never see the light of day.  Whattya say?  Mind tellin' us what happened?

Humbugger

Butch

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Re: To Humbugger
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2007, 12:02:55 AM »
Humbugger,
The only thing I can think of that would cause these claims to be made when they are not confirmed is Stupidity.
Butch

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2007, 02:07:10 AM »
There is a a lot of inconsistancy on the definition of OU here...

I believe a CoP>1 system is OU. You get out more than you put in. Examples of this technology are solar, hydroelectric, or even heat pumps. We're all esentially hunting for new ways to harness the energy of nature. You can't deny that wind and water moving across a turbine generates power, it efficency may only be 20%, but but its 20% for free. Solar cells harness the collision of a photon and a electron rich conductor to generate voltage, yet neutron or IR collection has not been achieved. Nature has thousands of systems containing vast ammounts of unused energy and its all around us. The problem is moving away from tricks, scams, and junk technologies twards the aspiration of "hooking our machinery to the gears of nature". Now people here aren't interested in well established technologies for the most part. So the kinds of energy we're trying to tap is an unkown, so it would only violate physics untill we determined the energy type and its source.

The score is not really 0 on a whole... Just 0-0 between those two.
Energy thats discovered is later explained, so the score will always return to zero.
But I now of over a dozen examples of CoP>1 systems that are in developement.

I hope this helps de-skeptify this old thread...

~Dingus Mungus

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2007, 09:40:02 PM »
Hi,

Dr.Stiffler is disclosing full details on how to build OU devices.

Plenty of people have built OU devices throughout history. Anyone that can discount that is not living in reality.

Butch, if you think that you are going to build an OU device and patent it as it works, you have no clue of the patent process. The military industrial complex owns the patent office and they will use what are called marching orders to take it from you, place you under a secrecy agreement and tell you to pound sand.

Don't thank that is true? Tell me the name of one OU inventor that filed a patent, got rich and lived happily ever after. You are in essence attempting to blackmail an organized crime syndicate.

The reason we do not have free energy is every time someone figures it out, they get greedy and forget the free part. In the end, we all get nothing.

Greed does not just destroy the Earth, it destroys us within.

Dr. Stiffler is capable of displaying two OU devices. How much is he asking for? Zero. One has to ask the question "Can he create free energy because he has the integrity to remember the free part?"

Glad to see you trying to build instead of sitting on the bench cheering or detracting as the less intelligent creatures tend to do. You are a player, keep playing. Now go play with barium ferrite, therein may lie your answer.

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 01:47:59 PM »
You know this may come as a suprise to most of you but free energy is something that doesnt cost , but its never going to be free.
Anyone who ever actually got off their but and built something realises striaght away the cost of the device and then there is development etc ...it all costs money.
And yet thousands of people sit here do nothing except moan about the cost and beg for it to be free.

ruin41

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Re: Simple OU circuit developed, from Butch
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 02:11:27 PM »
Humbugger, your what went wrong idea is very good might save a lot of people a lot of time and money and i suspect that that sort of help is what most of us who actually build stuff came here for in the first place but alas it doesn't happen cause those who know don't want to tell you and the others will tell you but have no idea what they are on about ...catch 22.

OU is relatively easy it stems from the inherent bad design of motors these days, simply put the constraint of " the most power for the smallest size" is the exact opposite of the freedom of size restriction and the most efficient motor.
This means that by doing it slightly different you can achieve OU performance based on what is considered the "norm" for todays standards.

If you need an example consider a car engine ...why does it go twice as well when you put on a turbo or 2 ...simple it was never more than a couple of percent efficient to start with and the turbo improves this, the engine is in fact running in OU state putting out far more power for less than the same increase in consumption but it is not free energy.

Free energy is something that has output but no input and to be honest i thought butch would have sorted it by now ... i have seen him so close so many times ... someone must be pointing him the wrong way when he gets too close.

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just a thought
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 03:24:28 AM »
 I worked on my own over-unity machine for about five years based on Ezekiel wheels with both rotor and stator moving, the only way to go. But there's always a but.What? Light(electromagnetism0 when it strikes matter (protons ,neutrons ,earth) creates a Eletron-positron pair. Electrons and positrons are emitted at the earth poles ,traveling where? To the sun on the solor field lines? Any way when electrons and positrons collide they produce 2 quarks it takes three quarks to make matter(P,N) , One proton moves toward the sun the other to the galactic center, continuing fusion and planet and star formation, thus creating light.C=M/E. The circle is complete; not closed but open. Energy and matter is created through light, ad infinitum, the universe expands and produce stars forever. That's good for PMers right? Does this prove the conservation of energy or destroy it? Here's the thing; the higher the over-unity the more light is used, a mini-black. Most of the machines I've seen are not capable of that kind of efficiency, but it will happen. Stealing fire from the sun you know what happened to him. Or fire from heaven, sound familiar? The science is out there to prove this, but I'm not a mathematician. The solution then is to create your on fire(light).