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Title: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 01, 2012, 05:45:09 AM
@All:

As many others already know Mehran T. Keshe plans to demonstrate his technology to representatives of all countries
that are willing to come to the meeting he has scheduled for Sept. 06, 2012 at 10am.
Then on Sept. 21, 2012 he plans to start training programs for Scientists from many countries, to get his technologies out to the world.
 
Well as most of us know; by the time the scientists get done studying this technology it will be years before it gets to the rest of us. 
So we need to help ourselves, if we want to run our homes with it!

I've been studying Mehran T. Keshe's view of Matter and Energy for weeks now and I beleive he has something
that we should give serious attention to. 
Whether or not he has the truth about Matter and Energy and how the Universe works is not the focus here. 
But based on his understanding of the Universe and how it works he has developed some very impressive technologies. 

I am looking for a group of people on this forum that want to give this technology a go and try and build an alternative energy source based on it. 

I have read all three of his books and watched his video presentations, NO WHERE in his books does he explain how to replicate his devices. 
But he does give many clues along the way in both his books and presentations. 
I believe if the people on this forum give even 1/10 the attention to his technologies that they have given to "Tariel Kapanadze" device,
that we can get a working device that everyone on this forum can replicate. 

I want to start this thread for the soul purpose of replicating some of Keshe's Technologies and
not for discussing whether or not his theories are correct. 
So if you are interested in joining this project please post only thoughts relevant to building a functioning device. 

As an introduction to this subject I have included a few of his video's so we have a starting point. 
The first video gives us a link to his YouTube site so we have access to his other videos. 
It also gives a closeup view of his solid CO2 extractor which also produces energy. 
I believe this device holds the key to all his other technologies.
Enough for an introduction post.  Other posts will cover more in detail.  Please watch at least the first video. 

Maybe you could even send an e-mail to your ambassador to Belgium and ask him/her to attend the meeting Sept. 06, 2012.
A sample e-mail has been posted on the Keshe Foundation site, you just fill in the red areas with your own info. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg&feature=player_embedded&v=UrN99RELqwo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg&feature=player_embedded&v=UrN99RELqwo)

http://keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/video-presentions/220-about-the-keshe-foundation (http://keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/video-presentions/220-about-the-keshe-foundation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE)


PS> IF anyone posts useless things or tries Trolling this thread let's just ignore those posts and not post any replies. 
Once we have a working device the Trolls will be silenced automatically and made to look like fools. 

I look forward to working with you! 

Harold W. Lehmann
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 01, 2012, 06:01:11 AM
@All:

As I mentioned in the introduction post.   
I believe Keshe's "Solid state CO2" device holds the key to all his other technologies. 
So starting this project I believe we should all download and study this article:

  http://www.keshefoundation.org/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf (http://www.keshefoundation.org/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf)

On his intro video we can see a very close view of this device, at time 2:16. 
I see a simularity between this device and his pop bottle reactor located at 2:10. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg&feature=player_embedded&v=UrN99RELqwo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg&feature=player_embedded&v=UrN99RELqwo)

Many times in his books and in his video presentations he mentions nano particles. 
I believe this is the key to his technologies.   
He uses a combo of nano particles of different elements to produce the Magrav fields of those elements and
thus his device works as a magnet tunned to those elements. 
By coating copper wires with nano particles of carbon he produces the Magrav fields of carbon and
thus draws carbon containing molecules to the device. 

CH4 is also a carbon containing molecule and he states that a small change in the setup causes solid CH4 to form in the water.
He says that CH4 produces much more current then CO2 and uses it to run a fan. 
He mentions formic acid in his paper and I understand it is used to extract the CH4. 

If we can get a fan running from a device that extracts CH4 out of the air,
for most of us this would be the first real functioning OU device that we have built. 
Then we can just enlarge this to get more energy or this could also be the start of greater devices. 
And CH4 burns, so the solid produced could be used as a source of fuel as well. 

Just think!  A device that works all by itself extracting fuel out of the air and at the same time producing electric current we can use! 

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 01, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
@All:

One way that all of you can contribute to this project is to learn as much as you can about producing nano particles,
and how to coat items with these nano particles so they remain stable, and then share your findings here. 

Keshe has developed a liquid material that will produce a nano particle coating on copper wires at room temperature and pressure. 
If we could figure out what he uses or another liquid that does the same thing we would be a lot closer to a solution. 
Even a liquid that only required some electric current to make the coating on the wire, or other substrate. 
Keshe also mentioned that his reactor worked at low temperatures and without using electricity. 
He stated that he can make his reactors out of plastics.  And use bottle cap plastic for the internal reactor materials  (Polypropylene). 



Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ramset on September 01, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
Sir
Thank you for starting this thread !
This PDF link comes up Corrupt on my computor
 
 http://www.keshefoundation.org/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf (http://www.keshefoundation.org/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf)

I can not open it.do you have an alternative link ?
 
Thanks
Chet
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 01, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
I can not open it.do you have an alternative link ?
 

Works fine on my computer.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ramset on September 01, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
HHhhmmmm
Tried it again....its telling me ""this file is damaged and could not be repaired""
 
Thx
Chet
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 01, 2012, 04:27:57 PM
HHhhmmmm
Tried it again....its telling me ""this file is damaged and could not be repaired""
 
Thx
Chet

Since I got rid of Adobe Reader and switched into PDF-XChange Viewer, everything works fine.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 01, 2012, 08:20:48 PM
Adobe Reader X is a free download from the following site.

http://get.adobe.com/reader/ (http://get.adobe.com/reader/)

Remember to uncheck McAfee Security Scan Plus box so you don't download that as well.

This will open any of the Keshe Foundation pdf files as well as any other pdf files I have downloaded lately. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on September 01, 2012, 08:54:58 PM
The file downloads and opens fine for me, on this Ubuntu Linux system using its native, free, .pdf reader.

But the file itself is full of Keshe's garbage claims and theories. Maybe Chet's Adobe Acrobat reader is working properly after all..... the file is indeed corrupt, but not "digitally damaged", just factually challenged.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ramset on September 02, 2012, 01:34:03 AM
Sterlinga is doing a Keshe show Live tomorrow!!

I believe its an Open Forum Format that will take live questions too?
 
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/interviews/333-2nd-sept-12-live-interview-with-peswiki-alan-sterling (http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/interviews/333-2nd-sept-12-live-interview-with-peswiki-alan-sterling)
 
Thx
Chet
PS
Yes the Adobe reader Spits out the PDF  NG
thanks for the alternative, AbbaRue and others!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 03, 2012, 07:15:28 AM
It was an awesome interview, here is the link to YouTube. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MBfNDvz9RqM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MBfNDvz9RqM)   

Thanks Ramset for posting the link!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 03, 2012, 04:19:09 PM
Well . .I don't know what to think . First he says every man is equal then goes on to say the Canadians are animals . and last but now least he is an Obama Fan. I found those two thing disturbing . Did i hear it right ?

And as to the experiment above sounds like the paper battery ink . silver and carbon maybe . see paper battery .
They use nanopartical paint/ink on copy paper and a couple of wires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea7_crd_TwQ
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 04, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
Actually he refers to Canadian Government officials as animals.
This is because they arrested him at the Toronto Airport and kept him locked up for 11 days. 
He had done no wrong, but was arrested and locked up for being an Iranian Nuclear Physicist. 
He said they questioned him for 4 days from early in the morning until 1am the next morning. 

As a Canadian I am ashamed of my government for doing such a thing. 


Thanks for the link to the paper battery.
I really wish I knew what liquid Keshe used to get the copper wires nano carbon coated. 
He briefly soaked the wires in the solution then pored it out and the carbon coating started forming over time.


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 05, 2012, 05:20:39 AM
Hey Abbarue . I know i Canadians and have friends up there . heck my favorite all time 60's friend  singer David Crosby of CSN is from there / Don't feel bad .We here in america have almost lost every right we are supposed to have from our founding father to a government that is greedy and keeps up in this rat race and keeps Technology lock up for themselves . I know this for a FACT . One of my related family is retired from Nasa now and we had a secret heart to heart talk several years ago . I asked him if any of it was true . Anti gravity ,aliens , overunity power and lasers that can cut thru mountains etc.. under an oath he swore not to ever devulge it was yes to all the questions and he was involved in all of it first hand and more we cannot discuss on a open forum . It is life changing information the public as a whole will NEVER SEE . NEVER.because of OUR BLACK GOVERNMENT also.So the Keshe thing does not surprize me one bit. It's old technology from the 50's and 60's
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 07, 2012, 08:36:31 PM
 On the home page of Keshe Foundation a statement says it's a non-religious organization. Well... I see it a religion itself. My religion (Roman Cath.) dogma says believers don't need to sense (exactly "to see") to believe. The harder you believe, the closer to the heaven you are.One of the products of Keshe is the soft CO2 which he claims is a hard molecular material (diamond) mixture. In fact, an ordinary mud (dirt and water mixture) resembles this soft CO2 paste: mud also is a hard molecular material mixture. Only nature found real benefit to the mud. And I don't find a practical application for Keshe's, even himself doesn't mention one. I hope, his followers from around the world will find. His other inventions are just very good wishes packed in very neat, circular envelope, without any concrete.
In conclusion, I'm gonna become his follower when he show at least how his inventions work. Right now, I see him as a scammer, maybe not ordinary one, only a big format one.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: kooler on September 08, 2012, 06:38:17 AM
interesting..
i haven't been around much lately but i notice this name of thread.. i was reading a popular science book a couple years ago in the doctors office and this guy was in it.. i don't think he needs money because in the book he stated that the copper plates in his soda bottle reactor made some other form of metal on it and was worth alot of euros..
but i don't know.. just thought i'd let yah know
 
robbie
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: e2matrix on September 08, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
hi kooler,  I'm wondering if it results in the same thing Joe Champion claims to be doing.  He uses copper to transmute it into gold.  He claims to have the process working 100% now but it apparently depends on a location where natural magnetic fields are in a certain state (I forget the details on that part).   As Keshe is a nuclear physicist and I do believe HV Plasma can transmute elements I wouldn't be surprised if he can do something like that.  Silver was also a product J.C. was making. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 09, 2012, 04:55:28 AM
I've studied Joe Champion's stuff as well, even played with it a little. 
But I can't find another source of Phonon Resonance for the elements to back Joe's claim.
Joe says Phonon Resonance of Gold is 38,931,841 Hz.
http://www.humanresonance.org/transmutation.html
Can anyone find another source that says the same frequency? 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 09, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
I Don't if Keshe has it but the Department of defense surely  does . Z-Pinch they call it . Decade Module 2 — a massive device used by the Department of Defense for weapons testing in the 90s. Delivered last month to UAH (some assembly required) the DM2 will allow the team to test Z-pinch creation and confinement methods, and then utilize the data to hopefully get to the next step: fusion of lithium-deuterium pellets to create propulsion controlled via an electromagnetic field “nozzle”.

Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/95991/new-flying-tea-kettle-could-get-us-to-mars-in-weeks-not-months/#ixzz25zSWfjHl (http://www.universetoday.com/95991/new-flying-tea-kettle-could-get-us-to-mars-in-weeks-not-months/#ixzz25zSWfjHl)

I believe after listening to Keshe that he trying to draw sympathy to his Country Iran . We will never see his Technology because it is Nuclear Fission  to create His Plasma . I don't think any government will allow you to play with that . And NO They should not be allowed to have Nuclear Fission because Iran and Iraq have a rouge government set out to kill us all .
What i got out of his Blabbing was the message  "Join me in my fight  . or I KEEL You. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 09, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
Keshe has put on demonstrations of his technology in Europe, he proved his device to extract CH4 out of the air
also puts out enough power to run a computer fan. 
I'm interested in duplicating that technology, not in politics of the world. 
I don't believe there is such a thing as a good country on this earth, they all need a good overhaul,
so I don't point fingers at any one country.  If you think your country is any better than any other just try importing
one of Keshe's 4kw power generators and you will see how little freedom you really have. 
I believe we have enough skilled people on this forum to get such a device going. 
He poured a milky liquid into the cola bottle with the copper wires in it,
and the wires formed a black coating on them. 
After the liquid is removed the wires give off a voltage without any other connection between them but air. 
I think this is similar to how his CH4 extractor works. 
He says that after CO2 is extracted for a while the water starts forming formic acid, then the formic acid causes the
CH4 to start forming in the water.  Formic acid is sold in some hardware stores as a scale remover for coffee makers. 
Because of the corruption of all the countries of this earth I believe the only way we will have own free energy device
is to build it ourselves.  So we need to get going, and stop falling into the political traps of the world. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 09, 2012, 09:23:41 PM
Hi. Your right about the corruption of all the countries ..As far as the experiment you are talking about with the bottle and copper ? Very easy to replicate with pennys and copper strips .you take a small mixture of water and sulpher it will be milky and dunk your copper in it  and within an hour it will have a solid Black layer on it .you can scrape it off and expose the copper . you can get your small voltage from that. Is that what your looking for ? I might have missed something about the fan thing .
I know this isn't CH4 or anything but during crystal experiments with all forms of different Exotic Metals this is one of them that is very easy to make a copper penny battery with .
Gadget . 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 10, 2012, 12:15:46 AM
    It seams that there is a lot more to this than just carbon on a copper wire,  or what meets the eyes, or can be read about in his books.
    Sept, 21 is right around the corner... 
 
    NOTE:  I watched a youtube video by "Bashar", and he is mentioning that on that same date,  UFOs will be visible, once again.  Same ETs as were seen flying over Phoenix Arisona, and other places in that state in their mile long ships,  known as the "Phoenix Lights".  Is this all a coinsidence? 
  He "Bashar" also mentions that we will not be allowed to use thermonuclear wepons, as in a war. As it would disrupt more than just our planet, and that they, among others, will stop and intervine in any such actions.   
  I mention this, to key you in on what MAY happen on this Sept. Equinox or thereabouts. 12 days away.  So, it will come as no surprise.
  Saucers were seen flying over the Reactor in Japan, during the "accident", and tidal wave. Which may still be in a meltdown mode, today.  No news is good news,  or is it?
                                                         
    NickZ
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 10, 2012, 03:31:04 AM
live feed here http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html (http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/f1-np/camera/index-e.html) of Fukushima .

It was reported that is went total melt down china syndrome on several of the  4 reactors.The upgrading of Japan's Fukushima incident to a level seven - the maximum - on the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale as of almost two months ago . It is reported that the entire area is evacuated do to radiation from the melt down and it will be uninhabitable for 1000's of years . It is worst than Chernobyl incident is what the last bit of valid information available . 
these is no more information allow and is a total news blackout . Wonder Why? You got a rad detector ? It's now falling worldwide and washing up on shores.
 Fukushima showed us that nuclear power is neither cheap nor clean. The multiple nuclear meltdowns are one of the most expensive man-made disasters in history. It will take decades and billions of dollars to control, cool and seal the reactors. Radioactive contamination has shown up in milk, meat and urine many kilometers from the disaster site. In the end, officials will likely be forced to bury the reactors in tombs of sand and concrete that will dot the Japanese shoreline for centuries in mute testimony to industrial and government folly.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki demonstrated that science had mastered the basic energy force of the universe, but not our basic instincts.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 10, 2012, 03:47:02 AM
Nickz . I hope so . I really do . I am a believer of extratrestial craft and beings . I got inside info that it's all real but the question will be answered soon if Keshe has it.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: tomd000 on September 10, 2012, 06:08:31 AM
It appears that the technology transfer has been postponed until December or January.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=5299&sid=d657c0b9b5ecd5b08d3bb8070104e783#p5299 (http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=5299&sid=d657c0b9b5ecd5b08d3bb8070104e783#p5299)

"The third international peace program is set to be for December of this year or January of  next year.

In this process we invite the nationals of  countries to chose their own delegation of  maximum three persons to be sent to this meeting.

In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month."
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 10, 2012, 07:07:14 AM
  Quote:
   "Meanwhile the process of the teaching will go ahead as planed and soon you should be able to produce the first small systems for energy production of a few watts on your own".

 
   This is the best news I've heard yet. I hope that it's true.
                                                                                              NickZ
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 10, 2012, 03:34:09 PM
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Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 10, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Ha . Yep . thats what i thought . FIrst sign of Untrust is do a world wide 2 hour broadcast and set a rock solid date ....then later  delay it . and i would bet my dollar that when that time comes it will delay again .... .Just like magnacoaster ,lutec, and so many others .

Nickz .. I hope so but i would not count on this . The Implications outweight world wide systems of 100's of years and will not be allowed to happen .The only way is to release all the plans NOW and spread them like a fire in the wind . As we see there is nothing to spread or build from him in years . If he is giving it away to the world and has it proven? why wait?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Paul-R on September 10, 2012, 03:49:58 PM
It appears that the technology transfer has been postponed until December or January.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=5299&sid=d657c0b9b5ecd5b08d3bb8070104e783#p5299 (http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=5299&sid=d657c0b9b5ecd5b08d3bb8070104e783#p5299)


Am I right that now he wants to create an African space programme?

I wonder if we are dealing with a fruit cake.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 10, 2012, 06:14:02 PM
Or the AntiChrist
 
it is Written :
Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft (fraud, deceit, treachery,experimentation,antigravity,miracle healing) to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."
 
and now Keshe Quote :"The third international peace program is set to be for December of this year or January of  next year.

In this process we invite the nationals of  countries to chose their own delegation of  maximum three persons to be sent to this meeting.

In this meeting we will handover the full technology to the people of the world without the presence of their governments representative, as they were informed what is to come and is for them to organise their affaires in the next three month."
Now be Silent ! or I KEEL YOU :)
 
 
Hey nickz What you going to do with your Flying car ? Me i'm going to retro fit my 06 toyota tacoma  and  FLY AWAY !!!!!!!
 
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 10, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
  It was Obama that said don't even think about bringing that here, or I'll Keel you and your family, and your dog, goats and camels as well.   That's if they don't get me first...   
  Times are tough, but they're printing more money. I can even get a loan now.  Thank God, and the all mighty dollar.
 
  Exciting times ahead, one way or another.  If nothing happen... THAT will be the miracle.
 
  If asked, I never said that...  Or,  Like Tricky Dick said,    I don't recall...
 
   
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 11, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
Hey Nickz  .I agree with you on everything except i rely on God not money . That is the number one problem in the entire world . well maybe except where they are paying 40 cents a gallon of high test gas in iran today.I lived in the middle east and have been there in 1970  and drove there when gas was 11 cents . it has not gone up very much since then . It used to be a beautiful country and Beirut and Bahrain had some of the nicest people i have ever met but we left in 74  and after that is when the S*** hit the fan over there , i don't know why it happened that way and i don't like it but i believe they didn't like us like we like them .
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 12, 2012, 03:34:14 AM
  Sometimes my sarcasm does not go over too clearly. All mighty dollar...  was one of them.
  Maybe the best way to look at it is, just go out and spend all the money that the banks will loan you, by sending the money overseas, then send your self over seas, and get lost in the crowd. No more money worries, when the banks all go under, next year, who will come looking
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 12, 2012, 03:59:29 AM
yes  . but i really wanted a flying Tacoma !dang it .that way i could be there in a few mins. Like in the movie The 5th Element ;)  .
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 15, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
Mr. Keshe in his patents shows a plasma reactor made from 2 cores, one inside the other. 
I tried experimenting with 2 balloons, one inside the other to see what it would do. 
I have 3 gasses to play with, Argon, Helium, and Hydrogen. 
I placed one balloon inside the other and filled the inside one first, tied it off, then proceeded to fill the outside one. 
I used Argon first then added some Hydrogen. 
I had a strange thing happen the first time I tried it.  As I was filling the inside balloon, the outside balloon popped. 
I had finished adding the amount of Argon I wanted, then as I was adding the hydrogen the outside one popped. 
I haven't been able to explain how the outside balloon could pop without any air in it yet.  The inside one was still intact! 

I tried filling a few more this way and I haven't had the same thing happen since. 
I can't detect any strange energy fields from the balloons, but maybe I need to install electrodes inside them somehow. 
I did try coating the inside of the inside balloon with some graphite though. 
Still experimenting, hope I discover something.  I wish I could find another clue! 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 15, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
A link to these Keshe's patents?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 15, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
A link to these Keshe's patents?
there on the Keshe website
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 15, 2012, 07:05:50 PM
Mr. Keshe in his patents shows a plasma reactor made from 2 cores, one inside the other. 
I tried experimenting with 2 balloons, one inside the other to see what it would do. 
I have 3 gasses to play with, Argon, Helium, and Hydrogen. 
I placed one balloon inside the other and filled the inside one first, tied it off, then proceeded to fill the outside one. 
I used Argon first then added some Hydrogen. 
I had a strange thing happen the first time I tried it.  As I was filling the inside balloon, the outside balloon popped. 
I had finished adding the amount of Argon I wanted, then as I was adding the hydrogen the outside one popped. 
I haven't been able to explain how the outside balloon could pop without any air in it yet.  The inside one was still intact! 

I tried filling a few more this way and I haven't had the same thing happen since. 
I can't detect any strange energy fields from the balloons, but maybe I need to install electrodes inside them somehow. 
I did try coating the inside of the inside balloon with some graphite though. 
Still experimenting, hope I discover something.  I wish I could find another clue! 

it has to be a High vacuum according to the patents and in a centrifugal chamber and exposed to at least 18Ve of some kind of radiation according to that Dude..all in a spacial Chamber called Caroline reactor
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 17, 2012, 01:35:45 PM
Two radioactive sources are thoriated tungsten rods and Americium 241 in smoke detectors. 
He also mentions using a microwave bulb. 
I have never heard of such a thing, unless he means a magnetron from a microwave. 
He mentions using 2 cell phones to make water, food, light, and heat. 
So maybe the microwave frequency transmitters and receivers in cell phones will work. 
His whole technology is based around the same principles as the earth. 
I don't think the Caroline Core of the earth contains a high vacuum, so that shouldn't be needed. 
His 2nd patent shows batteries made with this technology. 
He even mentions AA batteries that will last for 5 years. 
They could last longer but he suggests 5 years to keep the economy going. 
I strongly suggest anyone interested in this technology download the 2 patents just in case the get removed. 


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 17, 2012, 02:13:22 PM
Two radioactive sources are thoriated tungsten rods and Americium 241 in smoke detectors. 
He also mentions using a microwave bulb. 
I have never heard of such a thing, unless he means a magnetron from a microwave. 
He mentions using 2 cell phones to make water, food, light, and heat. 
So maybe the microwave frequency transmitters and receivers in cell phones will work. 
His whole technology is based around the same principles as the earth. 
I don't think the Caroline Core of the earth contains a high vacuum, so that shouldn't be needed. 
His 2nd patent shows batteries made with this technology. 
He even mentions AA batteries that will last for 5 years. 
They could last longer but he suggests 5 years to keep the economy going. 
I strongly suggest anyone interested in this technology download the 2 patents just in case the get removed. 



If there "Real Patents" they are public domain at the patent office . He does state that there is a Need for a HIGH vacuum in the chambers . He also states that there is a control to Let the separate chambers "mix" for desired effects.  He also states that the mixtures of ultra pur gasses produce ULTRA HIGH UV RAYS . which he also claims is were the heat comes from .he is not clear on the radiation needed to activate it other than it is radiation at least 18Ve.
A neon laser any one has like me  has a least 18.5Kev of energy inside it and only less than one percent of it's energy in the form of a beam is released from it . If there was a way to pass 100% of a cheap neon laser you could power steam generators for power from it . But there is no way to do that .
A laymans problem trying to recreate such experiments would require a Glass blowing setup to make round tubes which then can be excavated of air thru vacuum and PURE hydrogen gas installed then seal the tube . You will need a magnetic containment field set up in a large enough chamber to enclose all of the above with sufficient power to Fire of the Plasmas without blowing your self up . if you attain a plasma reaction without blowing  yourself up it will diminish in microseconds so the gasses need to be fed to the separate glass tubes to sustain the reaction . once you do that you will have close to 30000 degree kelvin to deal with(sun) and maybe you magnetic shield ,given enough power @ frequency in a centrifugal fashion ,contain that warp coil you would make .
Good luck!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 17, 2012, 05:36:56 PM
Tracking this at EP1770715 (A1), from Keshe Foundation's link:
[0001]    We refer to the priority   European patent application Nr. 05447221.2  /   EP 05447221 dated October 3, 2005 , introduced by the same inventor.

I found this:
http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/wo2008113393.pdf (http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/wo2008113393.pdf)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 17, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
Ok . And here is a NEWLY ANNOUNCED STATEMENT FROM SPACE.COM from NASA . you not going to believe this ..

Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
New calculations suggest we might actually be able to build a warp drive for faster than light travel.

Holy Shit .
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 18, 2012, 12:41:32 AM
Ok . And here is a NEWLY ANNOUNCED STATEMENT FROM SPACE.COM from NASA . you not going to believe this ..

Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
New calculations suggest we might actually be able to build a warp drive for faster than light travel.

Holy Shit .
My comp sniffs the hi-lited as a menace.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 18, 2012, 01:13:20 AM
Might be but true ,,,  Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say (http://email.techmedianetwork.com/t?r=4&c=15605&l=108&ctl=5B849:3F2B0270A9DEBB27D30B1F854A9764B2&)
New calculations suggest we might actually be able to build a warp drive for faster than light travel.

Read More... (http://email.techmedianetwork.com/t?r=4&c=15605&l=108&ctl=5B849:3F2B0270A9DEBB27D30B1F854A9764B2&)Today released 9/17/2012 and i knew about it in the 60's that nasa had it .

I am considered a FREE ENERGY DOER not a free energy downer and your computer is  smelling  your balls not my quote ;D


Gadget
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 18, 2012, 05:02:40 AM
Keshe mentioned in one of his video interviews that this technology does not require high temperatures. 
He states over and over again throughout his books that his reactors work at room temperatures and pressures. 
He stated that he can use plastic for the reactor chamber, and even mentioned ground up plastic pop bottle caps for fuel. 
Well not fuel but as the ingredients used to produce energy. 
He even holds some ground up plastic in his hand and says that his wife ground it up for him.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE)   
At location 1:32:00 you will see it, and if you watch for a few more minutes he tells you there is no heat @1:34:40.
Now hopefully this finally clarifies this one point.   So please stop posting false info. 

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: markdansie on September 18, 2012, 07:42:00 AM
The only false statements come from Keshe himself, there is no evidence to back up any of his claims.
Pure Science fiction
Kind Regards

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 18, 2012, 09:24:22 AM

@markdansie
I mentioned in my introductory post that I am looking for a group of people that are interested in replicating
Mr. Keshe's technology. Are you interested in joining this group?  We could use your expertise. 
I believe this man's legitimate, and that he has developed a new technology that will lead the world into a new phase. 
I asked people to only post here if they have something of value that can help us in this replication.   
I have been studying Mr. Keshe's books and his video interviews and what he says make perfect sense to me. 
I have looked at dozens of idea's and concepts on this forum, and I have done many experiments. 
Nothing I have seen on any forum or in any other patent has caught my attention as much as this man has. 
I believe with all my heart that this man and his technology is for real, I believe him to be the Tesla of our time. 
Will you join us in this adventure or will you take your place among the unbelievers,
and go down in History  with the same group that questioned Tesla and other great men of the past. 
Do you really want to be known as one of those that resisted this new technology?
Let me ask you, can any of you really let this pass, after coming all this way,
after all those years of testing new ideas, after all that money you have spent on idea's that didn't work.
If this is the real deal, do you want to pass it up.  Just think of the possibilities. 
Just take a look at the video's, check out the response by the US government. 
No other technology on this forum or any other forum has stirred this much attention by the world powers. 
That alone should tell us all something.  If this is just Science Fiction then why all the attention by governments. 
Oh NO!  This time it's for real, this time the controllers of this world are scared, that their monopoly will end. 
 I know this technology will change every part of our lives, just like Tesla's technology did in his time. 
I've come to far and spent to much time and money to stop just outside the door of what I worked for all these years. 

So again I plead to all on this forum, please join me in the greatest discovery of our time! 
We are on the verge of an awesome new era for mankind. 
Together we can achieve this, but divided we fall.  Let's finally put an end to the control, and the lies!

Already, both Africa and South America have started a Space Ship Program based on this technology. 
I don't want to be left behind.   We all need this new change! 

I want every ones help,  are you with me or against me? 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 18, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
Every time I watch this video I pick up more tidbits of information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE) 

He said he uses Permanent Magnets to hold the plasma, but not to draw out the energy.
He said that frequencies are not used. 
These are 2 more clues we have to go on. 

Quotes from Ch. 21 of his first book "The Universal Order of Creation of MATTERS" that hold a good clue.

"Through the understanding and creation of a parallel environments, similar to the
internal environment of the same weak plasmatic magnetic fields of the plasma itself,
plasmatic magnetic soup environments are produced in these types of reactors, so that
the plasmatic magnetic fields condition within the reactor cores matches the plasmatic
magnetic fields of the binding forces (Coulomb Barrier) of the initial fundamental
plasma, as the components of this plasma soup, this barrier is magnetically diluted and
soften, allowing the plasma to open through the operation of the reactors, for the
Matters of the plasma to become part of the dilution soup of Matters and fields forces of
the reactor."

"These plasmatic magnetic fields saturated reactors will allow components of any plasma
introduced into the reactor to be loosened and, the Matter, the Antimatter and the Dark
Matter of the plasma, to be free to move within the structure of the plasma soup, which
has been created through specific setting and Matter combination. Matters once loosen
from other Matters within the soup of the plasma, these are then free for their
fundamental particles effects to be utilised to achieve any desired effects, like for fusion
and production of new matters, lift and motion." 


This is awesome stuff! 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: underwater on September 18, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Please see the work of Hungarian scientist Egely György for some possible setups for plasma experiments.

Here is one regarding Nano Dust assisted cold fusion:
http://vimeo.com/38728471

See video 2 of 4 for lab setup

I can't find the recent video I saw that had english subtitles, but basically he has a microwave oven surrounded by a faraday cage.  For the plasma containers he uses a glass tube or sphere.  I will keep looking for that video, but google it in the meantime.

On Keshe forum I saw something about using a light bulb as the vacuum container and injecting gas into it via syringe then applying electric or magnetic pulse for initial rotation.

Also, check out this thread about the nuclear magnetic resonance of a noble gas atom inside a fullurene.  http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2609&p=4875&hilit=magnetic+resonance#p4875  I remember Keshe saying on a video (maybe in a Q&A after a speech) that "I only use 1 or 2 atoms of ________.  If I use more than 1 or 2 atoms the whole thing shuts down".  I am pretty sure trapping an atom inside a fullurene is key.


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 19, 2012, 02:13:52 AM
Thanks for all these great posts lately. 

The Rex Research article is very useful. 
http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/keshe.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/keshe.htm) 
Scroll to the bottom and read:
GRAVITATIONAL AND ENERGY SYSTEM

Now for a good way to put all this together to build a test reactor. 
Mr. Keshe says we can do it all in a plastic reactor, like the coke bottle example. 
It appear that carbon nano particles and hydrogen gas are main ingredients in all his reactors. 
Then he adds small quantities of other elements to get different Magrav fields. 
Also some areas use permanent magnets. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 19, 2012, 02:29:44 AM
Keshe mentioned in one of his video interviews that this technology does not require high temperatures. 
He states over and over again throughout his books that his reactors work at room temperatures and pressures. 
He stated that he can use plastic for the reactor chamber, and even mentioned ground up plastic pop bottle caps for fuel. 
Well not fuel but as the ingredients used to produce energy. 
He even holds some ground up plastic in his hand and says that his wife ground it up for him.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFO3-MOCYE)   
At location 1:32:00 you will see it, and if you watch for a few more minutes he tells you there is no heat @1:34:40.
Now hopefully this finally clarifies this one point.   So please stop posting false info. 


Excuse Me>?  it is you posting false info . I am simple quoting his patents . Ok? Now Don't  blow yourself up with a plastic coke bottle full of explosive Hydrogen !@!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 19, 2012, 02:38:25 AM
@gadgetmall 

Actually a bottle full of hydrogen gas is quit safe to work with, it can't blow up unless you add some oxygen. 
Also the small amounts of hydrogen we need for these reactors wouldn't do much if ignited. 
We are only using a few cubic centimeters at a time.  We would only get a good popping sound from it. 
I purchased a small tank of hydrogen gas from the local welding shop. 
The only warning they gave me is that hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. 
It is commonly used for welding gold jewelry to keep out impurities. 
From what I read; when Mr. Keshe mentions high temperatures he is comparing his invention with others. 
He explains their invention and how it uses high temperatures which makes it different from his. 
If you scroll down near the bottom of the rex research article to "
WO2008113392
 EP1770717

  GRAVITATIONAL AND ENERGY SYSTEM   [ PDF (http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/wo2008113393.pdf) ]

And read a short way down he starts mentioning other peoples patents and how they differ from his. 
Look at 30 to 45


Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 19, 2012, 02:54:41 AM
@gadgetmall 
Actually a bottle full of hydrogen gas is quit safe to work with, it can't blow up unless you add some oxygen. 
I purchased a small tank of hydrogen gas from the local welding shop. 
The only warning they gave me is that hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. 
It is commonly used for welding gold jewelry to keep out impurities. 
Thanks for your input.

I have been working with hydrogen for 4 years Also and your are correct the slightest amount of an oxygen molecule and you got a portable H-Bomb . . I have seen Explosions at my home from these things.I generate Hydrogen .Don't forget you live on the planet earth with 20% Oxg.. On earth Hydrogen is Explosive .    PLasma is an ionized Structure that is Energy .If you mix plasma with hydrogen and it is not pure you get an explosion . that is all .  I gave you Valid Information and you spit in my face . I was trying to be optimistic and Nasa did release that Info yesterday giving a smigit  of credit to the possibility . So I will Bow out now  and hope for the best for all of us.

Note: in case you don't know   Wiki : HYDROGEN IS A HIGHLY FLAMMABLE GAS. WHEN IT IS CONTAINED, IF IGNITED IT WOULD CAUSE AN EXPLOSION.A small tank of Hydrogen will level your house and anything within 500 feet so fast you will see your maker in a split microsecond . Just a balloon full is as powerful as a 1/4 stick of dynamite!

So be carefull as we wouldnt want to read about you in the obituaries.

We will wait for him to release it as he said he would in December or January. We will see.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 19, 2012, 03:44:02 AM
@gadgetmall 
Please try to understand, I am only trying to keep people on this forum from getting discouraged. 
When people read about 30000 deg. K. and high vacuum many will say this is to difficult for me to replicate.
I mean no offence to you or anyone else, I just ask that people not post discouraging statements. 
I do want your input.

@All
Mr. Keshe very definitely says that a reactor can be built from plastic that works at room temperature or below,
and at normal atmospheric pressure.  Using commonly available materials.
He stated that ground up pop bottle caps work very well as a supply of carbon and hydrogen.   
This sounds very simple to replicate, once we know how to combine it all together. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 19, 2012, 05:32:48 AM
I believe I found out were the confusion is coming from. 
There are 2 patents on the Rex Research post.   WO 2008/113392 A1   and  WO 2008/113393 A2
Patent WO 2008/113392 A1  is a more complex reactor that can be used for gravity craft.
It uses liquid helium, vacuums and ultraviolet rays.

Patent WO 2008/113393 A2 is the simpler one called the Micro Plasma reactor   [ PDF (http://www.rexresearch.com/keshe/wo2008113393.pdf) ]   that can use a plastic chamber.
This is the one I'm focusing on.  Please download the pdf and look it over so we are on the same invention. 
I'm sorry for any strife or confusion this has caused.   

@gadgetmall   Please accept my apologies, I now believe you were referencing the other patent. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 19, 2012, 05:43:06 AM
Could find it earlier if look at reply #40.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 19, 2012, 06:13:50 AM
Page 7 on explains how to build a test reactor. 
Wow!  Looks like this is going to be easier then I thought. 
Quoting from the patent:
"In our tests, carbon atoms are extracted from CO2 gas, plastic, metals and composites.
In these tests we use a mixture of hydrogen liquid as the mediator, an electromagnetic wave source,
and copper electrodes as the collector. " 
I wonder what he is using as the hydrogen liquid mediator. 
He a reactor built from a photo film container puts out 1.5 volts DC and 1.2 volts AC simultaneously from 4 terminals.
COOL!

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: underwater on September 19, 2012, 07:34:34 PM
This is what I get from the patent when translated into readable form:

p. 10:35

By the appropriate choice of materials, where the conditions through creation of vacuum and scintillation by the use of radioactive source(s) and inert gasses, will lead to the creation and release of EUV waves, ...

P. 11:40 to 12:25, translated to useable english:

A method to produce energy within a reactor:

A reactor can be made from a plastic soda bottle.  Electrodes should be attached to the bottle as shown in the diagram.  Electrodes should be covered by a super-conductive material like graphene.
Chamber will contain:
1.  A radioactive material  (p.13:35 suggests a "dilution, granules, dust")
2.  An inert gas  (later gives liquid He as an example)
3.  atomic or molecular metallic material in gas form  (elsewhere in document suggests K, Na, Ca, Mg)
4.  Hydrogen

When you seal these things into the soda bottle, it will create current and energy from the reactor.  The energy created will be small, but can be amplified with motion.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 19, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
Just watched a youtube presentation. While his theory is interesting it's a whole other thing getting it to work in practice. What I didn't like, was when he started with: "under the circumstances I can't show you the device". This is worn out. Every scammer starts this way. Sorry, it's just the way it is.
It got even worse afterwards: he continued with the need of funding the device. I guess that's where the "foundation" comes in. At the same time he says he works with the government. Ok, so he works with the government, but doesn't get money from it, or what? Sounds unrealistic. And then he said policemen and helicopters at his house etc. That was cheesy. For protection? So the government protects him 24/7 but has no money for research? Do you know how much even a single helicopter operation costs? Combine that with policemen and everyday protection...
... and yet he is allowed to make a presentation on a public place with random people/students etc. completely unprotected? It's getting slightly ridiculous...

But whatever, let's say the government sucks too and throws money out the window. It's not that it's uncommon  :P
I agree, that his theories about gaining matter from energy are interesting. It's definitely not the first one who is talking about gaining matter from energy (or plasma in his case) but he has at least some logical explaining. I might check a more indepth read later on, because the presentation scratched too much on the surface. There is most likely something true about what he explained in his presentation, and also his examples e.g. about the luminous UFOs made sense (which apply also to specific UFO sightings - the ones that are marked as serious). We will see... very soon, if the gamechanger is here... or not.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 19, 2012, 11:40:46 PM
Ok ABBARUE . Good luck . I read the patent you spoke of and yes somehow he claims to produce an invisible plasma with no heat in plastic holding hydrogen and other carbon based components in a"mist" sealed inside of a coke bottle .
In two days Keshe has promised the world his anti-gravity energy producing device instructions to all mankind . the 21st . So countdown has begun . Either he comes thru as he claims  or he  will delay that day  like all the other days he promised for years.. It is time . Yes .

have Fun . if i find anything to add to your project like verify your findings or some kind of replication i will be more than willing otherwise after the 21st it really won't matter because i expect My retrofitted antigravity device will provide all the power i will ever need and be flying  in my yota on a world tour !! I wish i could say just kidding but i'm not because i was promised to have it and expect it  .what if?
gadget
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 19, 2012, 11:56:38 PM
  I could only watch just so much of his presentation.  Looks like his technology can do just about everything from going to the moon and planets, to heal every sickness, and even to make food, and I can't remember what else.  When he shows a clear round plastic bottle and connects the volt meter to it to show us something, nothing can be read on the meter.  That's where I couldn't watch any further.  Sorry. Not a good presentation, at least what I could watch of it.
  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, just like all the rest. 
  The 21st huh.  I wonder what he'll invent as an excuse this time.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 20, 2012, 01:51:50 AM
@nickz ..that would be unlimited Clean free energy for our house . My neighbors and local air base will be soo jealous because they are not members nor did they see any broadcast on the Internet  and i will be able to fly in a cloaked fashion in my truck and if they try to shoot me down i can disable them and every device that is harmful !.  ;) i watched the live show and the video you speak of . it is really grainey like broadcast from the  moon . can't wait and i feel like an idiot repeating what he said .
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on September 20, 2012, 08:31:14 AM
Why should I believe that Iran government is good and the only truthful one, against the USA government which is only bad and evil? Is Keshe an Iran's gov. agent or a boy frightened by Iran's special services?

http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/keshe-news/330-the-world-peace-invitation-and-release-of-technology-the-2nd-international-presentation-how-to-become-axes-of-evil (http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/keshe-news/330-the-world-peace-invitation-and-release-of-technology-the-2nd-international-presentation-how-to-become-axes-of-evil)

Still there is Israel, not Obama's USA which threats Iran recently.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 20, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
Hmmm... the keshe foundation website looks professional - in contrary to most scam sites. A good sign, if I may say so. But I'm still skeptic about if anything will be released. If he really releases on 21st of september, why can't I find anything about it on his website?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 20, 2012, 08:46:59 PM
I pulled this right off his site :On 21 September 2012 the Keshe Foundation will release the first phase of its space technology and the gravitational and magnetic (Magravs)  . I believe it is posted in here some where from the LIVE Conference he had earlierthis month. We all remember them saying the 21st .. of sept 2012 it will be release to all nations worlkwide and expect Great UFO sighting in the days to come ETC... have you seen that Sun image taken the 18th . It shows some kind of craft as large as 7 earths .. ill see if i can find that link .  ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNm65cnwCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNm65cnwCo)

and pese wiki http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpesn.com%2F2012%2F07%2F13%2F9602134_Keshe_foundation_to_release_Magravs_technology_September_6_for_world_peace%2F&ei=tWhbUPirO4rl0QHtg4CIAQ&usg=AFQjCNH_3aXo4cCgfVxnl54w2ozl4GUqKQ (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpesn.com%2F2012%2F07%2F13%2F9602134_Keshe_foundation_to_release_Magravs_technology_September_6_for_world_peace%2F&ei=tWhbUPirO4rl0QHtg4CIAQ&usg=AFQjCNH_3aXo4cCgfVxnl54w2ozl4GUqKQ)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 20, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
UFO LARGE SIGHTING past two days .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35c04lYU8LA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35c04lYU8LA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYY3ct0HCY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AihpWpiMmNE&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AihpWpiMmNE&feature=relmfu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uivWDoCSW7g&list=PLO6FJVqlxatcrx2U6AmHiBtQu8I2aWWXm# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uivWDoCSW7g&list=PLO6FJVqlxatcrx2U6AmHiBtQu8I2aWWXm#)!

and more
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 20, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
Ah thanks, gadgetmall, with your text googling I found it. I thought such a huge event would be posted on the frontpage of the website though...
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/keshe-news/316-the-world-peace-invitation-and-release-of-technology

It still makes no sense, because again it is said that only a number of 130 is allowed to see what he demonstrates... uhuh... why not make a youtube livestream? Especially when he claims in the text:

Quote
According to its charter the Keshe Foundation and all its technologies are owned by the peoples of the world. The patents are the assets of every individual on this planet and cannot be claimed by any one person or organization or nation.

Why the need for a "Closed Beta" ? :D Maybe his technology does only work in his mind but not in reality? Ah... sorry guys... I'm just impatient and skeptic... and maybe angry.

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 20, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
Same and you know that from my previous post..I want what was promised ..A retrofit antigravitydevice for cars trucks vans motorhomes etc etc .. ;) With Weapons to shut down any weapon yes .. 

Seems the UFO's are being seen more this month .. the sun ones have been there before they are the size of planets and bigger than earth. The Light may be divine and harvest the believers . I am a follower of Jesus not Keshe.

Albert
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 20, 2012, 09:40:38 PM
  Tomorrow the 21st it was predicted that more space ships will be observed in our skies.
Maybe they are already here, just waiting for the party.  So,  Look up  tomorrow.

   StarShips on the sun...  maybe they live there. Looks like they are as big as this planet.
  They don't seam to be having any problem with overheating issues.
  From what I understand,  the heat of the Sun only radiates 2000 miles from the Sun.
 So neither heat nor light are coming to us here from the Sun, like we're still being told, although NASA knows differently. The distance of those ships could easily be over 2000 miles or more away from the Sun. I wonder if they are there for the coming light show.
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 20, 2012, 10:18:18 PM
I am not quite sure, but I thought I've seen the videos with the sun previously and they look to me mostly like artifacts. Look here, the videos from 18th september may just be a copy of the following clip from march this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shAcp1rahdg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shAcp1rahdg&feature=related)

I also got a clip which shows some "Ufos" coming from moon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtyFQRkhW9g&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtyFQRkhW9g&feature=player_embedded#) Of course it can be faked as well with an particle effect overlay on the video, but as the uploader only has serious videos uploaded, made by his own, and answers in an upright manner, it might not be fake. Despite one can't really see that much.
(Unfortunately there's lots of fakes around in youtube. I really dislike the fact that people make fun of the matter and start producing crap and thereby making it much more difficult to separate real from fake).
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 21, 2012, 02:02:54 AM
@gausctor . Yes and you know there is profit in the good fakes  on youtube . every Hit is 4 to 30 cents so that might be a reason there are so many . There are a few here that can decyper the real ones though . I am like you
if a persons majority is real they do tend to be real . but that don't work all the time . well it's outside to see the saucers . Got My autotracking telescope all set up .. Yes i love the sky too .

gadget
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 21, 2012, 04:31:54 AM
I have just one question concerning Keshe. Who is funding him?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on September 21, 2012, 05:33:45 AM

" I have just one question concerning Keshe. Who is funding him? "



I wood think that wood be his wife Caroline...

Oh, you said 'funding'...I don't ever know where my mind will take these days ?

Regards...


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 21, 2012, 05:56:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTPFXZMtOY
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on September 21, 2012, 09:35:12 AM
Hi folks, not sure what to make of this technology, if it works, lets get it to humanity already.
Hi gauschor, I have seen lights coming and going from the moon one time, with my own two eyes and much, much more.
peace love light
tyson
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 21, 2012, 02:48:56 PM
I have just one question concerning Keshe. Who is funding him?
Apparently coca cola :)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 21, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
No Cap-Z-ro, I wasn't asking about his love life. I was asking if anyone else thought he was on the payroll of the Iranian government. Someone paid for his building, his website, money to get Dr. Meyl involved, and lecture series in Sierra Leone. He may be an independently wealthy eccentric inventor.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 21, 2012, 06:42:19 PM
Ah, thanks thats good to know that you can confirm these lights from/to moon, SkyWatcher. If I could I would like to track the moon as well with a good telescope.



Back to topic though: I just got home happily to see the new technology released over all the world - but - nothing. Just NOTHING.

I read again on the website, that this event is not accessible by the public. But even if it's for his own protection, why not a youtube livestream? But let's read again what's written on the website:

Quote
On 21 September 2012 the Keshe Foundation will release the first phase of its space technology and the gravitational and magnetic (Magravs) systems it has developed, to all scientists around the world simultaneously, for production and duplication.

Now the expression "first phase" makes me skeptic. Can it be that the "first phase" is only his plain theory and nothing else? Maybe that's why no youtube video is made? Maybe then people would see it's the same old "blah blah blah" promised for ages but never delivered? Oh yeah... that's exactly what it looks like.
I see it coming: he waits for investments to release the "second phase" in 1-2 years and then he needs more investements for the "third phase" etc.

Whatever... fucking scammer, he should go to hell...

Are you read to invest into Ca$h foundation?  :P
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 21, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Hey gauschor , You must of missed the boat . I am typing in my Flying tachoma . Zooomm,,

There was major  outages in several countries reported on NBC news this morning and Cell phone disruption everywhere ??? ??
http://newsok.com/blackberry-outage-in-europe-mideast-africa/article/feed/437663
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 21, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Keshe Foundations have release new dates for disclosure:
Oct. 12 thru Oct 17, 2012
No longer Sept. 21, 2012

ha haha ha ha  haaaaa!!

o boy can't wait !!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 21, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
   keel your goats, your dogs, your camels,...   and your foundation.

   Pick me up Gadget,  in the flying Tacoma, and bring the "secret weapon". Time to kick ass, and we'll get a couple of them saucers too, he won't get away this time...
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: 27Bubba on September 22, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
"On 21 September 2012 the Keshe Foundation will release the first phase of its space technology and the gravitational and magnetic (Magravs) systems it has developed, to all scientists around the world simultaneously, for production and duplication."

The Keshe Foundation is government sponsored entity,why would anyone expect to have something worth while released from a closed society? ;)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: NickZ on September 22, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
  Midnight Sept. 21st, I looked up at the night sky and could not see even one dim planet, sun, light, not even a bat, as it was totally overcast.  No news is good news...

   Bashar: UFO switches off Nuclear Weapons
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACeJc8F6Mvc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACeJc8F6Mvc)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: tagor on September 22, 2012, 08:18:56 AM
Quote
"I'm not here to please people, I'm here to develop the technology" ~M.T. Keshe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9zBn3BKd3Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9zBn3BKd3Y)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 22, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
Thanks for the link. I watched the start, but stopped after: "we will make teachings in october, in december, in january..."
If he really had something to show he could have demonstrated and released it already. I mean this B.S. is going on for 3 years now at least.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 22, 2012, 01:14:42 PM
He has lost his credibility with me.

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ionizer on September 22, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
same here.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 23, 2012, 05:10:07 PM
The new date is December 14th. I can hardly wait! It's like Waiting for Godot ..or maybe the Great Pumpkin! Remember, even though Linus (from Charlie Brown cartoons) was a True Believer, in the end even he didn't get to see the Great Pumpkin rising out of the pumpkin patch.

Don't hold your breath waiting for The pop bottle powered Keshe UFOs either.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 25, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
I don't think it is a good idea to start playing around with the gravity reactors. 
I'm mainly interested in replicating the plasma reactor used to produce energy.
Either electricity or a form of radiant heat, would be best, but even light is a good start. 

My greatest question right now is once a plasma reactor is build and working. 
Where would you place the electrodes that collect the electricity that's produced? 
Based on a 2 chamber reactor, do you place one in the inside chamber and one in the outside chamber?   
Or would both terminals be placed in the outside chamber? 
This question is based on the reactors that open the plasma so you can directly extract electricity. 
The type with the spinning plasma would need a coil wrapped around the outside of the reactor. 

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 25, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
AbbaRue, did you read at least the first book of Keshe?
There are some explanations about the reactors.
Other source of tehnical descriptions are that two patents of Keshe.
Anyway, here is an interesting link:
- Understand how the Keshe reactor can be reconstructed (http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=694)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 26, 2012, 01:45:27 AM
@sadang; 
Thanks for that link.  It's good to see that I'm not the only one interested in replication of Keshe's technology. 


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 26, 2012, 08:05:57 AM
Are many who try to replicate his experiments, deepening the theory from the three books published so far, from the existing patents, and from the videos made ​​by Keshe Fundation.

Look, here is someone who claims to have conducted experiments on plasma reactor plastic bottle, and said he also obtained graphene:
- The Social Implications of Keshe Technology (http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=5622&sid=38af444e63506c05d6dd690390eecd79#p5622)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: jbignes5 on September 26, 2012, 06:28:48 PM



 I highly doubt you will be able to replicate anything about this man's theories. Why, because they are just that. They are a propaganda tool and that is about it. They promise release of all material and then don't follow through. They set date after date and can not seem to follow through.


 They say everything belongs to every human being about this "Technology" yet plan on charging 1000's of euros to get a power unit. They say tons of stuff but yet nothing and I mean nothing is shown even.


 If you look through the forums there you will see the debasing of many countries governments. And I say governments because it is not the people who are making these decisions that effect Iran or even the Keshe foundation. Yet the people are being told to rebel their country and to create dissension among their people for their government because said government doesn't believe one claim from a country that so wants to kill our innocent peoples. Iran has known nothing else then death and destruction of their own people and many other countries innocent people. They are war like at best and to tell the truth so is our own countries governments. The only ones that get hurt are not our governments but the people they trick into killing and being killed for our countries. They all are guilty of crimes against humanity, all.


 Now if Keshe has this technology then He must do what any sane person would do and just put this technology into the hands of everyone. Show it and stop talking diatribes on a useless forum. Discuss the technology openly like is promised by the man himself. He says everyone owns this technology, then release it and stop holding it hostage. Trust in humanity to sort it out and take out of power the ones who's only purpose it to hide such technology.


 I'm sorry but the Keshe foundation makes the assumption that giving it to the people who run this world is the best course of action. Why? They are the ones who got us to where we are right now. They are the ones who rule with a heavy hand and stifle us from growing and evolving as a species.


 Give it to everyone like you say Keshe. Without strings and without cost. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 27, 2012, 05:14:48 AM
Continue to doubt insted of trying to study, to understand or to change your way of thinking. Did you read his books, patents, comments on forums, live interviews and movies? Do you think this technology is a scam? Do you understand that this kind of tehnology is so fundamental that it affect the entire lifes on Earth, and not only? Do you really have the consciousness and responsibility required, in order to manage such technology only in benefit of others? Tell me a single thing invented by man who was used only in benefit of others and not in their detriment? Keely, Tesla, Hubbard, Hendershot, Sweet, Leedskalnin, Scahuberger, Grebennikov, Steven Mark, Kapanadze and many others made wonderfull things! Where is our freedom, for each of the aforementioned geniuses and many others worked, sacrificed and dreams?

You say "Iran has known nothing else then death and destruction of their own people and many other countries innocent people." But what about USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Israel, China and many other and former empires and powers, which destroy other states and nations, just to become a market for their products, and to be able control the workforce and their natural resources?? Are they much more immaculate than actual small states which are trying to maintain and use their own resources for the benefit of its own citizens? Have you heard of manipulation, disinformation and control? Do you think the secret services and governments whom they serve, more or less, are they a virgin? How do you think they invented the current terrorism and what is the purpose of this invention? "Divide et impera" do you think is just a saying worthless, or an everyday reality? Open large your eye and mind, beyond all social conventions, deeply engraved in conscious, and even deeper, and try to see the crude reallity! Nothing is what it seems to be! Again, are you able to make your neighbor happy using this technology, even when he is mad at you? I really doubt! Look here at this post on this forum: http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?1244-Mehran-Tavakoli-KESHE-can-create-anti-gravity-!&p=14494&viewfull=1#post14494

So, be patient, and wait the normal course of events. This course could only be established by Keshe and his Foundation. Or try to study yourself in advance.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 27, 2012, 06:31:23 AM
After studying this technology and it's principles I see proof of it everywhere I look literally.   
It would be impossible for me to go back to my previous way of thinking about all matters in the universe. 
I actually understand how things work throughout the whole universe now. 
Once you really understand something with all your heart then no one can shake your belief again!
I know how people must have felt when they discovered electricity for the first time. 
Or how people felt when they found out the world isn't flat like they were previously taught. 
Or how people felt when they found out the earth isn't the center of the universe. 

Every time you look at something and see colour you are witnessing proof of Magravs of matter. 
Just like blue light is repelled by a blue object, so a reactor can be built that is repelled by our earth. 
Just like an atom absorbs(attracts) certain colours of light and repels others, a Keshe Magrav reactor can be
adjusted to be attracted or repelled by any object in the universe.  A planet is just a larger version of the atom. 
The light frequency of a planet is measured in microhertz or nanohertz instead of gigahertz  or terahertz for atoms. 
The reason our earth orbits the sun were it does is because this is where it's Magrav field is in balance with that of the sun. 
I believe if our earth was knocked out of it's present orbit it would very quickly return to it's present orbit again. 
It all makes sense now, I hope more people begin to understand this new truth. 
It will change the world forever!  There is no going back anymore! 
The information is out and no one will be able to stop it. 
Just like when Galileo published his book and was forced by the church to withdraw his claims. 
The people got the info and wouldn't give it up, even though Galileo was forced to. 
 Scientists all over the world are now proving this technology to be true, and it won't be stopped this time. 

I expect that other members on this forum as well as myself will soon have working proof of this technology too. 
So lets get building!  The proof is in the pudding!  Let's all enjoy a big bowl of it! 

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: markdansie on September 27, 2012, 08:24:34 AM
Its a scam
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Iron Horse on September 27, 2012, 10:54:53 AM
Good morning to all,

Many thanks for starting this post.

I have been looking into most of Mehran Keshe's technologies, amongst others, for quite some time now and I am very surprised to see that some people have doubts as to the authenticity of his claims.

I personally feel, without a doubt, that Mr Keshe and the Keshe Foundation are for real. Why would he have the world's ambassadors attend his meetings and have verification of his work from some of the worlds top physicists. Definitely not a scam in my opinion as there is too much evidence to back up his statements.

Mr Keshe has put his resonating spheres on the line for the sake of mankind. An amazing example of man.

Hopefully a new era is upon us, where we can all have real the freedom to evolve into decent human beings and escape the current madness engulfing the planet.

Happy days people - The future will be enlightening.



Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on September 27, 2012, 11:54:09 AM
Its a scam
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie

I concur.

Keshe and his "foundation" have been around for a long time, have been promising the same things for a long time, and have been failing to deliver anything real for a long time. There is no reason to believe that any of this will change... for a long time.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 27, 2012, 12:59:29 PM
No again! I read enough on other forums about the fact that it is a scam. For me is very reall and I know this, because I read the book, the patents, the forum posts, the foundation website, listened radio recordings, saw existing films. How many of those who consider this a scam, studied the work of other great titans of informal science such as all the ones I've mentioned in my previous post, and of course many others? For me it is not a scam at all! Just as it was the work of others!

I understand that it's unbelievable, it is pure fiction, as indeed it seems to be when first heard of it. When you're full of "official science", without any confusion, full scientific certainty! I understand this, but those who vilified and show with finger, can you understand people like me. The ones looking for years in alternative science for answers, abandoning long time ago, the false and apparent "final solution" of the official science?

If you want proof why are not looking for? Why wait to bring someone else the evindeces? Do you think anyone really interested has nothing better to do than to waste time trying to convince you of what you do not want to believe? Let's make a first step to these evidences and trying to found, if indeed Keshe graduated from Queen Mary College, University of London in 1981. What do you think we can find this information or not? Let's see!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gadgetmall on September 27, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
Because evidence does not exist ! No one has seen anything except words and blurry pictures.He's an educated con artist.

But hey spend the rest of your life making galvanic batteries with Coke bottles .Who are we that see right through his yearly plea for money. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Paul-R on September 27, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
No again! I read enough on other forums about the fact that it is a scam. For me is very reall and I know this, because I read the book, the patents...
What patents?

I put the search string "keshe" into the US patent system, and there was nothing.

The EPO gives these:

WO2008113393  (A2)
WO2008113392 (A1)
EP1770715 (A1)
EP1770717  (A1)

all  filed between 2005 and 2007.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: jbignes5 on September 27, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
No again! I read enough on other forums about the fact that it is a scam. For me is very reall and I know this, because I read the book, the patents, the forum posts, the foundation website, listened radio recordings, saw existing films. How many of those who consider this a scam, studied the work of other great titans of informal science such as all the ones I've mentioned in my previous post, and of course many others? For me it is not a scam at all! Just as it was the work of others!

I understand that it's unbelievable, it is pure fiction, as indeed it seems to be when first heard of it. When you're full of "official science", without any confusion, full scientific certainty! I understand this, but those who vilified and show with finger, can you understand people like me. The ones looking for years in alternative science for answers, abandoning long time ago, the false and apparent "final solution" of the official science?

If you want proof why are not looking for? Why wait to bring someone else the evindeces? Do you think anyone really interested has nothing better to do than to waste time trying to convince you of what you do not want to believe? Let's make a first step to these evidences and trying to found, if indeed Keshe graduated from Queen Mary College, University of London in 1981. What do you think we can find this information or not? Let's see!


 There is no proof. Anyone can claim this and that but if one doesn't back those claims up with hard evidence then it is a theory at best.


 Listen every time he makes a claim then says it's yours, all yours. Well where is it then? Where is the education and devices that really work as claimed? Where? Oh thats right it's ALWAYS just around the corner. Then when it comes time an "Event" happens and sets him back so the release of all information is again set back.
 Why charge all these crazy deposits and prices for something that is quite honestly going to ruin the value of money anyways.


 The honest truth is that he is gathering money for some unknown reason, probably all self motivated.


 Until he practices what he preaches and gives it to humanity without cost then he is holding this information like a carrot in front of your reach and keeps saying for 5,000 euros you can pay a deposit in lieu of delivery of a power unit that no one knows what is powering it.


 I have gone to his forum and have read his rants and musings about giving this to the people of the world. Ubtil it is done then it's just an extortion scam.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: synchro1 on September 28, 2012, 01:25:11 AM
I concur.

Keshe and his "foundation" have been around for a long time, have been promising the same things for a long time, and have been failing to deliver anything real for a long time. There is no reason to believe that any of this will change... for a long time.

U.S. President Barack Obama is a "FIREFIGHTER ARSONIST" who landed the N.S.A. stealth spy drone in Tehran to extort anti Magrav defense money from the American taxpayer. This ploy is just another extortion racket. Mehran Tavaloki Keshe also claimed he transmuted 10,000 tons of gold that is hidden in Lybia, in a Sterling Allen video interview.  He went on to claim he can transmute another 10,000 tons overnight. This would implode our Global financial markets, if it were true, and foist World Money on us. The man is either a fake, or a communist N.S.A. mole.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 28, 2012, 02:14:30 AM
"Mehran Tavaloki Keshe also claimed he transmuted 10,000 tons of gold that is hidden in Lybia, in a Sterling Allen video interview.  He went on to claim he can transmute another 10,000 tons overnight. "

If he ever gets real mad at the United States and wants to punish us, I'll show him where to store our 10.000 tons of gold.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: jbignes5 on September 28, 2012, 03:11:57 AM
Continue to doubt insted of trying to study, to understand or to change your way of thinking. Did you read his books, patents, comments on forums, live interviews and movies? Do you think this technology is a scam? Do you understand that this kind of tehnology is so fundamental that it affect the entire lifes on Earth, and not only? Do you really have the consciousness and responsibility required, in order to manage such technology only in benefit of others? Tell me a single thing invented by man who was used only in benefit of others and not in their detriment? Keely, Tesla, Hubbard, Hendershot, Sweet, Leedskalnin, Scahuberger, Grebennikov, Steven Mark, Kapanadze and many others made wonderfull things! Where is our freedom, for each of the aforementioned geniuses and many others worked, sacrificed and dreams?

You say "Iran has known nothing else then death and destruction of their own people and many other countries innocent people." But what about USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Israel, China and many other and former empires and powers, which destroy other states and nations, just to become a market for their products, and to be able control the workforce and their natural resources?? Are they much more immaculate than actual small states which are trying to maintain and use their own resources for the benefit of its own citizens? Have you heard of manipulation, disinformation and control? Do you think the secret services and governments whom they serve, more or less, are they a virgin? How do you think they invented the current terrorism and what is the purpose of this invention? "Divide et impera" do you think is just a saying worthless, or an everyday reality? Open large your eye and mind, beyond all social conventions, deeply engraved in conscious, and even deeper, and try to see the crude reallity! Nothing is what it seems to be! Again, are you able to make your neighbor happy using this technology, even when he is mad at you? I really doubt! Look here at this post on this forum: http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?1244-Mehran-Tavakoli-KESHE-can-create-anti-gravity-!&p=14494&viewfull=1#post14494 (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?1244-Mehran-Tavakoli-KESHE-can-create-anti-gravity-!&p=14494&viewfull=1#post14494)

So, be patient, and wait the normal course of events. This course could only be established by Keshe and his Foundation. Or try to study yourself in advance.


 First is this I have read and looked and understood. But what is now needed is the proof. Period!


 I guess it is you who doesn't read or even understand what is said. Case in point: "[size=78%]They are war like at best and to tell the truth so is our own countries governments. The only ones that get hurt are not our governments but the people they trick into killing and being killed for our countries. They all are guilty of crimes against humanity, all."[/size]
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 28, 2012, 03:57:30 AM
Wake up people and stop believing every nut who comes down the pike with a loony story of providing free energy, flying cars,or gold.   
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 28, 2012, 10:03:15 AM
jbignes5, what I believe is just what I believe, as what you believe is just what you believe. I believe only studying, trying to understand, to reach as many informations as I can. I do not just believe, like in religion, dogmatically! I dig very deep in any subeject that interests me, beyond any religious, moral, social, institutional or any other obstacles. This is the way I consider that someone can find the truth, not behind any obstacle as those listed above. Finally ... What about this: - Israeli leaders meet Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in NYC  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCw-oWp1wf8) ?
Quote
"They are war like at best and to tell the truth so is our own countries governments. The only ones that get hurt are not our governments but the people they trick into killing and being killed for our countries. They all are guilty of crimes against humanity, all."
Is much more and more profound than you say here. Much, more! And I think you know this! Just do what you have to do, and if you really undestand just a bit, do not expect evidence. Create them!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Lakes on September 28, 2012, 11:37:56 AM
10,000 tons of Gold?   yeah right... let's just call him Walter Miitty shall we?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 28, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
If he could russell up 10,000 tons of gold he would not be asking for donations.

@sadang, those are not Israeli leaders. They are Jewish rabais who live in Newyork. This video is from previous year.
Note that Iran is not against Jews it is against Zionism.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sparks on September 28, 2012, 05:39:54 PM
      The word is that transmutation of various silicates into gold was done by King Solomon using one of the arks of the convenant plasma reactors.  There's alot of sand out there which would make gold worthtless.  Did you know that Roosevelt handed over every bit of US citizens gold to the elders of Zion.  Why do US delegates to the UN walk out whenever the activities of the evil bush cartel are brought to light.  Did you know grandpappy bush was indicted for trading with the enemy but "prooved his allegiance" to the US by pouring money into the USO like he was some kind of do gooder.  Why is Iran always portrayed as an evil militant nation?  When was the last time they bombed innocent people in refugee camps?  Why does the US government NOT ITS PEOPLE champion the imposition of economic SANCTIONS on Iran like it did to Iraq and like the British did to Germany after WWI.  Does anybody besides me see an evil common denominator in all this?  Why is the same evil power structure doing the same thing to the US citizens that was done to German citizens preWW2.    These evil fucks are sly but their lack of creativity betrays them.
  Please take a human test by looking at the below images.  If you have an emotional response to these images you are most likely human.  If you don't even get it YOU are not human.  If you win non-human status please tell your local mental health facility all about it.  They can provide you with a lifetime of sunning yourself in the sun room and 3 free meals a day.  They may ask you in exchange for some research into what makes a snakeperson tick but you can sit on your lazy ass all day get free drugs and free food in exchange for a couple of cat scans and talking to special people called physcologists.  The physcologist might even give you a piece of raw meat to devour while he chats with you and you look at these stupid inkblot things.  He will probably ask you to describe what you see.  You will see ink all messed up on a piece of paper.  Tell him that you see ink all splattered on a piece of paper.  He is trying to catch you in a lie.  Tell him the truth and you win.  He may even give you another piece of meat after talking to you.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 29, 2012, 02:40:39 AM
Viewing pictures of unconscionable acts against children doesn't provide any credibility to Keshe's lies.. He doesn't have a technology. Produce even one independently verified replication of his "technology". He has been playing the old carrot on a stick routine well over three years now. Make promises and then fail to deliver. No more lies.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: jbignes5 on September 29, 2012, 03:47:50 AM
 Oh I am human. And I know on average that the Iranian people are much like us, with no power to change the ones in power. We the ones with consciousness and heart are the ones who donate and try to do what little we can to help the less fortunate and down trodden. As I had said it is us who suffer and it is a few at the top who have zero feelings and hearts as shriveled raisins.
 But there are some that pretend to have all the answers and hold the ones who yearn to be truly free captive. Until this wonderful Nuclear scientist comes up with the proof he can muse all he wants. And until he shows that what he muses has a basis in reality how can he expect anyone to believe him and trust he is one of the good humans. He says we own the patents and knowledge yet at every turn there is a charge for this and a charge for that. Doesn't that sound a bit weird to you? 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Earthrise on September 29, 2012, 04:29:11 AM
I was able to come across a replication of Keshe's technology on Peswiki http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation#Replicating_the_Coke_bottle_experiment (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation#Replicating_the_Coke_bottle_experiment)

I found exciting results with real potential to solve all the world's future power needs! Using a 100K resistor across the reactor as a load gave a whopping  120 millivolts reading. That is an astounding 0.144 microwatts of power!. Using just 6.9 million of these devices, one can generate one watt of power! That is amazing!

Amazing that anyone could be stupid enough to call this dribble a "technology"
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on September 29, 2012, 09:24:23 AM
@Earthrise & Others
You are missing the point of the cola bottle. 
The main point Mr. Keshe is making is: that a Graphene layer is formed without the copper touching the solution. 
It proves that a plasma of carbon can be manipulated without high temperatures or pressures. 
The same principle is at work inside the plasma reactors used for power production or gravity control. 
The little bit of power you get is just another benefit. 
It can be viewed as proof of over unity: 
The graphene is not only made without power, but produces power in the making. 
Others are using large amounts of heat to produce the graphene layer. 

I've almost got all the parts I need for my first replication of this technology. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 29, 2012, 09:52:18 AM
@jbignes5
Have you seen all the movies that exist online? Start with these:
- Keshe Foundation (http://www.keshefoundation.org)
- Directory:Keshe Foundation - Plasma Energy and Anti-Gravity Applications (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation)
- Keshe INTRODUCTION - Collaborative Translations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXSEEuhYJPQ)

And there are many other public videos online, starting with 2009. Try to see all these movies, read his patents, his forums, and try yourself to produce graphene at the room temperature.

@AbbaRue
Don't waste your time with Earthrise and others like him. Try to focus only on what you have to do, and if you feel that your experimental results are valuable, and if you wish so, make them public. This advice is for all that want to understand something in any field. Just concentrate on what you want to achieve and collaborate only with those who think that can help you. Do not waste time with storytellers and those who have nothing positive to say!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on September 29, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
I watched the Plasma Bottle Experiment videos now. Looks interesting, if this really provides energy infinitely as long as CO2 is around. It really should be checked if the power output is constant on the long run, and if it can be switched into series by additional bottle units etc.
So I agree with the opinion that this specific experiment should get a little bit more attention, for it's much easier to replicate than 900 pages of Kapanadze speculations...
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on September 29, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
The actual Kapanadze topic will reach soon 1000 posts. And I am sure it will reach another 1000 posts if those seeking solutions to Kapanadze's device will continue on the path of official electromagnetism. Electron does not exist. At least not as it was defined by Thompson. And the same the electric charge. Should be read Milikan's laboratory notes to see how the "scientific" dates are faked. More accurate in assessing the electronic structure and charge characteristic of it was Felix Ehrenhaft. But how many famous technicians and electrical engineers, have the mood to take it from the beginning with learning other concepts that describe magnetism, electricity and gravity? Very few! And it's very hard when you have a "scientific" foundation well imprinted in the consciousness. Rather, those who start from scratch, or gave an erase to everything that they know, have more chances to understand the free energy and antigravity devices, even if these two themselves are erroneous defined concepts. There is no free energy and antigravity, because the actual concepts of energy and gravity are erroneous.

And gauschor, this experiment can produce graphene, and release in paralel a bit of energy. But you have to understand the principle behind the experiment. The experiment itself is not as important as understanding the process behind it. This understanding can open huge doors for conscious manipulation of energies, and of all manifestations that belongs to its dynamics. This understanding means responsibility. For it to be ready when you reproduce the experiment! Not for linking in series of 100 such bottles ...
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sparks on September 29, 2012, 04:08:38 PM
    I have been researching plasma tech for awhile.  I believe that the secret and I believe it is truly a well kept secret by various priestdoms is the introduction of ionizing radiation into a highly stressed electrical region.  Heat as we know it is molecular motion.  The motion may be in the form of rapid expansion and contraction of a ground state molecule resulting in collisions with other molecules and mass in motion.  Most gasses at atomospheric pressure will move chaoatically to and fro even in an electrically stressed field.  Upon ionization of these molecules moving to and fro in an electric field the randomized kinetic energy becomes ordered. Order from chaos..  It is in full compliance with entrophy it is just that by intelligent design a pathway is provided for the radiation of the chaos and the rate of entrophy accelerated.  The inertia of the molecular motion is conserved but instead of randomized it is vectored.  In the unionized state the neutral atom is undirectable.  In the ionized state the same atom is directable.  Inertia is always conserved while energy/time come and go at the will of force. 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: jbignes5 on September 29, 2012, 05:46:02 PM



What he has shown is that differing amounts of copper have a potential difference. That is old news. The graphene that is produced is kinda pointless if you have to wait ages for it to accumulate.


 Anyways the Kapanadze method has already been figured out and soon I will have all the power I need without said plasma bs. And it cost nothing to get this other then the time to re-educate myself to Tesla's observations and experiments and forget the BS they teach in our current systems schools. But go ahead and pay for something that has already been admitted to being yours.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on November 17, 2012, 01:01:40 PM
-= Countries that joined the technology of "Keshe Foundation" =- (https://maps.google.fr/maps/ms?msid=218425273006042132759.0004ce14cbaec0d660a78&msa=0&ll=39.368279,44.296875&spn=121.647587,346.289063)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on November 17, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Yes, it's just a coincidence that the present accepted model can allow the constructions of things like computers and robot spacecraft that journey to other planets. Electrons, gravity.... what nonsense! Computers don't work on electrons or electromagnetism at all. When you get to your second year in EE school, you get to access the Ancient Secret Texts of Mystery (ASTM, I'm sure you've heard of them) , hologrammed into spheres of rock crystal, that explain that all the physics formulae you had to learn to get into EE school in the first place, are just shams and good for nothing, and you will begin to learn the _real_ equations that allow you to design cellphones and spyplanes and communication satellites. Gravity! What nonsense! Robot spacecraft data are all faked, the Sun is at the center of the Universe and the planets are just holographic projections onto the sky.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sparks on November 17, 2012, 03:50:25 PM
  Kesche spends quite a bit of time talking of gaining power in space from magnetic fields.  Unless there is a change in the magnetic field in question I can't see how you can gain power from it.  A conductor traversing a homegenous magnetic field induces o current in that conductor.  A conductor traversing a bumpy magnetic field will of course be able to induce a current.  Our alternators regularly cause conductors to encounter bumpy magnetic fields.  Electromagnetic waves used for communication produce bumpy magnetic fields which induce current in conductors known as antennae.  The near Universe appears to be emitting bumpy magnetic fields in the microwave bands.  Maybe Kesche has a cosmic bacground microwave antennae in mind for his spaceships.  Maybe he can get some circuit to respond to cosmic background infrared bumpy magnetic fields.  Our solar multiplier "tubes" work good for white light but just can't get a handle on near infrared light.  Hmmmm.  Either modern science is amassed with a bunch of total idiots who can build white light antennae but can't make the leap to lower frequency photons or I'm a total idiot for seeing no distinction between photons of one frequency and photons of another other than wavelength.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on November 17, 2012, 04:23:39 PM
According to some people, science should be something static and permanent, and a law once discovered, must necessarily be valid forever. Eventually, the law may be permanently patched, only by those who follow unabated official path of science! If Tesla would have thought and acted in such way, he did not invent the AC!

And magnetic fields, which speaks about and uses Keshe, is a fundamental plasmatic magnetic field, always dynamic and in interactions with other plasmatic magnetic fields. The entire universe with everything it contains visible and invisible, has a plasma intrinsic nature!. It is pointless to interpret the magnetism of Keshe trough official knowledge of magnetism (800 years old, initiated by Petrus Peregrini! (http://ia600500.us.archive.org/17/items/letterofpetrusp00pieriala/letterofpetrusp00pieriala.pdf))

At least you should understand that there is a reason so many countries joined his technology. They will not be all crazy!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: victore on December 04, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
According to some people, science should be something static and permanent, and a law once discovered, must necessarily be valid forever. Eventually, the law may be permanently patched, only by those who follow unabated official path of science! If Tesla would have thought and acted in such way, he did not invent the AC!

And magnetic fields, which speaks about and uses Keshe, is a fundamental plasmatic magnetic field, always dynamic and in interactions with other plasmatic magnetic fields. The entire universe with everything it contains visible and invisible, has a plasma intrinsic nature!. It is pointless to interpret the magnetism of Keshe trough official knowledge of magnetism (800 years old, initiated by Petrus Peregrini! (http://ia600500.us.archive.org/17/items/letterofpetrusp00pieriala/letterofpetrusp00pieriala.pdf))

At least you should understand that there is a reason so many countries joined his technology. They will not be all crazy!
Hi,

I think by 'joining countries' you rather mean curious countries who hope to understand more of Keshe's claims. It does not mean they joined because they felt it proven.

I really tried to follow his claims, but there is no experiment at all, just long monotonous bullsh*tting.

For example, in this video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=98HwpzWEuGQ#t=275s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=98HwpzWEuGQ#t=275s)
Keshe explains both gravity and magnetism on Earth being caused by a rotating centre core. WTF? Gravity and magnetism are created by the same thing? Then why Mars does not have its magnetism anymore, while its gravity still exists?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Sherbeck on December 09, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
In his patent he gives detailed explanation.
Can anybody to replicate his system?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Sherbeck on December 09, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
In his patent he gives detailed explanation.
Can anybody to replicate his system?


Drawings:
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on December 14, 2012, 03:31:29 PM
I just remembered the announced demo and was looking for reports:
>a demo of the gravity-modification technology is scheduled for Dec. 14

Now I see:

>He says that most European nations were dissuaded from involvement by slanderous misinformation from the "pedophile" Belgium government, who also canceled the Dec. 14 demo

Yeah, sure... who has thought that. Now the evil government is to blame. Come on... seriously... he can fuck off.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ponto on December 22, 2012, 08:21:48 PM
This guy (Joshua Thomas) has posted a replication video for the Keshe Plasma Reactor. In the information below the video (click "Show more") he has a .pdf with other information as well. I haven't felt the need (yet) to try this on my own but some here might. He tends to ramble a bit near the end but the how is pretty clear.

Keshe Plasma Generator~Breaking Laws of Physics~Infinite Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ramset on December 23, 2012, 03:59:14 AM
Ponto
Thx for sharing the movie, I like OBwankoalas  post above also [his experience in SHHChool].

OB you forgot one thing .......The subliminal suggestions Of the Alien Robin Williams" Nano Nano" , [they been trying to tell us for a long time] !
Everything is not as it seems ,I like Forrests [member here] comment ..

It is almost as if the humans desire and ability to improve his world is somehow tied to the rules regarding the things we can do ,A connection to possibility?[not exact quote]

Tesla had a feeling about this also
quote             
 Originally Posted by Tesla 1908                           
 According to an adopted theory, every ponderable atom is differentiated from a tenuous fluid, filling all space merely by spinning motion, as a whirl of water in a calm lake. By being set in movement this fluid, the ether, becomes gross matter. Its movement arrested, the primary substance reverts to its normal state. It appears, then, possible for man through harnessed energy of the medium and suitable agencies for starting and stopping ether whirls to cause matter to form and disappear. At his command, almost without effort on his part, old worlds would vanish and new ones would spring into being. He could alter the size of this planet, control its seasons, adjust its distance from the sun, guide it on its eternal journey along any path he might choose, through the depths of the universe. He could make planets collide and produce his suns and stars, his heat and light; he could originate life in all its infinite forms. To cause at will the birth and death of matter would be man's grandest deed, which would give him the mastery of physical creation, make him fulfill his ultimate destiny.
Thx
Chet
PS
I would also Beg TK's Take on the ponto vid
And Ponto
welcome to the forum !!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on December 23, 2012, 03:19:03 PM
Ever, ever, forever will be few men who try to understand things, and all others who even bother who they are! Ever, ever, forever will be few men who try to go only forward, and all others who wnats to stay in place. So Victor, if you want to understand more, keeps your eyes and mind open (both hemispheres, not only the logic and rational one) and try make the necessary intellectual efforts. This is the only way to understand Keshe's technologies! Because these are very real, even you don't understand nothing with your actual knowledge and understandings. The fault is not entirely yours, but the current materialistic science! Will agree later with all what I said here, when will begin to see more than what is written in the school books!

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8I7r3GGxrU
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2pGMLxi8hg
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Farmhand on December 25, 2012, 10:51:34 PM
This guy (Joshua Thomas) has posted a replication video for the Keshe Plasma Reactor. In the information below the video (click "Show more") he has a .pdf with other information as well. I haven't felt the need (yet) to try this on my own but some here might. He tends to ramble a bit near the end but the how is pretty clear.

Keshe Plasma Generator~Breaking Laws of Physics~Infinite Energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs)

Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Qwert on December 26, 2012, 04:07:37 AM
Interesting, he got a voltage but did not use it. there was no energy utilized in that video none, nada, zippo.
What load can he run from that. And to claim he is somehow explaining gravity is a joke.

If he has all that energy why did he not light up an led or a neon or something.

Strange video.



I guess, he created the video only for money collected from the amount of views: within several days he already got over fourteen thousand views. I see no benefit from watching it.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Farmhand on December 26, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Yes there could be many explanations of why a voltage was developed in that arrangement.

I don't drink alcohol, I have nothing against the consumption of alcohol in general.

But if a guy cannot keep off the beers long enough to demonstrate a so called "device to benefit all mankind",
then his credibility is shot to pieces in my eyes.

When I see a demonstration of a Keshe coke bottle device powering something of significance I will give it a second look.

It is worth noting that Keshe an Meyl are buddies so in my opinion if one is a deceiver then so is the other.

Just because a person has a degree does not make them immune to corruption, selling out for money or threat, or deception.
On the contrary a degree makes a deceiver that is more difficult to "out".

From people with degree's we should expect very detailed and correct power/energy measurements,
if detailed and correct power/energy measurements are not supplied by these people then that is a red flag in itself.

Cheers



Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ramset on December 26, 2012, 11:42:16 PM
FH
Of course as usual your sound logic Takes the day,And since I can't watch Vids at my home {yet] I have only minimal "info" except an increase /Building charge claimed here.
 
Which I must add ,"I" do not understand ?[yet]
 
As one addendum to your comment regarding measurements and the "educated" [specific fields].
 
The guy at the top of this page ,as well as several other men on these pages
have been giving us an education for many years on "proper measurement"
technique.
 
I see you have been at O.U.R. .......also a proper education to be had there!
 
We grow more informed and effective by the moment ....AND I"M LUVIN EVERY MINUTE !![I believe you feel this way too].
 
And since we need to work together to maximize our limited resources,I would like to add this comment.....
 
You are a good man ,with good input and intentions ,It would benefit our community for you and Duncan to come to a "professional" aggreement!
 This "thing " between you  stifles progress in some places........
And actually keeps some doors closed that need to open.......
Thx
Chet
 
 
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on December 27, 2012, 04:19:38 AM
AbbaRue, Sadang and all the rest of you inspired by the Keshe theory,

 
To try to duplicate any device refered to by Keshe involves a level of understanding that Keshe so far has not been willing to disclose. Too many unknown parameters lay in the way, making the probability of competitive success just as small as intended by Keshe. Myself being involved in a research laboratory as a product developer in the surface coating industry, I know the size of the so called "window" accessible i relation to the parameters given.
 
Therefore my advice to you guys would be to gain enough understanding to be able to perform a set of tests that may confirm Keshes ideas. If you are not able to configure such tests, your are not even close to having access to enough parameters needed for any actual plasma experiment or whatever area of the Keshe paradigm you want to explore.
 
Do you see where I am coming from?

 
I have since many years been deeply interested in theories describing physical reality from viewpoints other than the ruling orthodox one.
 
It has caught my interest due to the obvious insights gained by the originators, who all seem to coincide on the same absolute disregard for contemporary science. Unfortunately this disregard is not balanced by the set of validation experiments needed to gain any scientific gravity, which sadly leaves these often non scientifically schooled guys out in the cold, since it is my conviction that they all may have som substantial new insights to share, given the proper attention.
 
I have read a lot of wonderful theories, which all seem to grasp the unifying fundament of physical universe, but they just have no value until we find a way to validate them.
 
I just love the Unity theory of David Barclay, it makes everything fit together in a harmonious context, and likewise the Electrical Universe and the Physical model of Keshe, not to forget the amazing thoughts about the dynamics of physical reality by Victor Schauberger and so on and so forth, but there is no gravity to a theory without validation history.

As we say in Sweden, "there has to be meat on the bones".

But since any scientific model is merely ... a model, it is all about which of the models that best seem to endure a correctly performed scientific evaluation method. As we all know, the contemporary orthodox view has the lead in this regard. There just is not any effective test methods yet that fits for the competing models.
 
But again, our present scientific model really does not describe very much in regard to source dynamics, since it unfortunately lacks any fundamental information in this regard, but instead tends to concentrate on the direct practical usage derived from observing the relationship between known physical parameters. Most of contemporary science's so called fundamental laws are merely relative observations without any omnipresent unifying spine. The moment contemporary science tries to close in on any source dynamics of our known so called forces, we seem to get entangled in the paradoxes and contradictions of quantum theory, which obviously is indicating an unfortunate choice of viewpoint taken by science.
 

The ideas presented by Keshe, as well as any other theory with such a magnitude of claim, should only be presented officially if they are fully backed up with repeatedly performable scientifically valid experiments.
 

My input here is not to critisize, but to initiate an interest  in finding ways to validate anything postulated by Keshe, and there actually seems to be one way to put him to test regarding the spherical magneto gravitational field dynamics presented by Keshe. According to his field theory, anything relates to anything else as a separate field, deciding the relative position of particles within the atom as well as the planetary positions in a solar system by their relative field value.
 
This could be put to test by dropping two similarly shaped objects of exact same weight from a certain height, preferably from a considerable height such as a kilometer or more, for example from a helicopter, in a highly controlled manner, where one of the objects contains a big high gauss permanent magnet, and the other object contains a non magnetic and non conductive material. If the object containing the magnet would fall slower than the other object, it would prove the theory of Keshe as well as the Unity theory of David Barclay, which in some instances are surprisingly similar.
 

With this input I want to emphasize the paramount importance of rigourous scientific validation procedure needed to add any gravity to a novel theory.

This is not religion, guys, it has nothing to do with faith.

I am a true connoisseur in this field. There is always an initial period, a so called "honey moon", when you are engulfed by the beauty and harmony of the theory, but if you really are in love, it's you duty to put that love to test.

Gwandau
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on December 27, 2012, 09:42:12 AM
Gwandau, I like your way of thinking. I just want to say that everything the man know today relates to references and interpretation. I mean the references used in the analysis of phenomena, and the way of interpretation of those phenomena, a way that is 100% dependent on references obtained and used in that interpretation. You have the courage and madness to reset everything you know and as you know, and rethink everything into a new paradigm of knowledge? Because in my point of view there is no other way! All we know, from macro to micro level is wrong founded. Everything is based on separate systems and the empty space separating them. Completely false!

And my suggestion si to start a Cola Bottle experiment. This experiment will prove more that the fact it generates energy from aparent empty space in the Cola bottle. That space is not empty at all, but it is very full of a kind of plasma at atomic leve, unseen by our eyes. An what it is more interesting is whit separate electrodes we still have a voltage, even more when the cap is get out. Why? Due to the environment... that empty environmet, which in reality is full of energy. A specific kind of energy. But about this on the steps of experiment.

The experiment suggested by you, was alreadu made by Boyd Bushman (Lokheed-Martin senior researcher) in the year of 1994, and already reproduced by  William Alek and Michael Ellegion on March12, 2009. Here is the link of experiment: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yPdQ6SOIg. And here is another moment when we have to pay attention to the references used in interpretation of this fenomena, and also how we interpret this fenomena. Accordin to actual offcial scientific knowledge, it is a paradox. They should fall both in the same time, according to actual gravitational theory. But they don't! In other way of interpretation, using other way of thinking, in which the is not empty space at all, at any levels of manifestation, and using the ancient knowledge of magnetism (not the one of Peregrini, old of 800 years, and that is now the same as then), all phenomena are more natural, normal and in accordance with a universal specific dynamics and principle of manifestations. At all dimensional levels!

Are you ready for this chalenge?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: starcruiser on December 27, 2012, 11:23:48 PM
The real question is whether this phenomenon holds true south of the equator for the Bushman Experiement, does it reverse?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on December 27, 2012, 11:27:43 PM
Sadang,
 
As far as I am concerned, it is challenges like this that makes life worth living. I am personally not too interested in doing all the things already done.
 
I understand your position in regard to orthodox science, but there is really no end to the journey of understanding, there is no final truth in a dynamic universe of infinite proportions.
 
I have come to understand that every scientific paradigm is level dependent. Seen from an elevated point of view, our contemporary scientific outlook seems quite wrong founded. And it actually is, seen from a higher level of understanding. But this is a never ending ascent through the infinite consciousness altitude, and we first of all have to understand that we would not reach any new insights if it wasn't for the very paradigm we managed to transcend and rise above.
 

I am today aware of the inevitability of all so called forces being mere secondary responses to one single underlying force, vibrating forth our physical universe at an updating rate beyond human comprehension. This single underlying force is accellerating our spacetimefield into existence, giving our universe the appearance of physical properties and movement.
 
All so called forces are mere resonating "nodes" upon the frequency range of this underlying single force, all of them acting upon physical reality in relation to their positions in this underlying frequency range. Matter is just one resonance position of many other possible, being given its physical properties as a result of the standing waves created within this resonance node. Matter, Space, Light, Electromagnetism, Gravity and so forth, are but different positions in the same underlying frequency system. They really do not exist as free standing phenomena as we are fooled by our senses to believe.
 
Nothing in universe exists by its own means, it is all interdependent and interrelating. Still, there is not two atoms in universe that are equal. Each has its own field value in order to exist. This is an absolutely inevitable and neccessary condition in a truly relative universe, like ours. If two single atoms had the same field value, universe would instantly collapse. That's the beauty with a relative universe. Every single particle in universe is unique, still everything is connected and interdependent.
 
What I find interesting with the ideas presented by Keshe, is his holistic viewpoint in combination with the astounding similarities of insight independently gained by other individuals. Mankind is today standing at the dawn of events that will shape our future far beyond our wildest dreams, and Keshe may be one of those adding weight to the scale in the illuminated direction. It right now totally depends upon the net sum of human karma if our future will manifest as something beautiful or nightmarish. It's all up to us.
 

And I totally agree that "empty space" is anything but empty, there are so many direct scientifically validated facts that indicate this, like the inability to stop particle motion in helium at zero Kelvin, or the Kazimir effect, or the interesting discovery by physicists at Yale University who have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current" in a vacum free from any electromagnetic interference,  a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power.
 
Actually, as far as I am concerned, the very definition of "empty space" would be no space at all. How on earth can anybody even think of "empty space" as something that occupies space? To me this is self contradictory.
 

Now, Sadang, when it comes to creating a Keshe type plasma inductor, I have a feeling we need to know a lot more about the parameters involved if we are to succeed in such a project.

What have you got this far? I would be happy to hear your ideas on the subject.
 
 
Regards,

Gwandau
 
 
PS. Thanks for the links. I actually knew about the old Lockheed guy with his "same poles forced together magnet" experiment, but there are no scientific data on this, only his own story. But the other link sounds interesting. I will check that out.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: ronotte on January 13, 2013, 10:28:32 AM
Hi Gwandau,
I like your way to approach our existence on earth. It happens that most of your statements are in accord with Michael Talbot and his well appreciated book 'The hologhraphic universe'. Did you know it?
Talbot (and Bohm) say that:
...the tangible reality of our everyday lives is really a kind of illusion, like an holographic image. Underlying it is a deeper order of existance, a vast and more primary level of reality that gives birth to all objects and appearances of our physical world in much the same way that a piece of holographic film gives Birth to a hologram...
... physical objects and everything else we perceive in reality are composed of interference patterns, a fact that has undeniable holographic implications...
 
and what I like most:
...Our brains mathematically construct objective reality by interpreting frequencies that are ultimately projections from another dimensions, a deeper order of existence that is bejond both space and time: the brain is a hologram enfolded in a holographic universe.. (Bohm & Pribam theories). For Pribam the objective world does not exist, at least not in the way we are accustomed to believing. What is 'out there' is a vast ocean of waves and frequencies, and reality looks concrete to us only because our brains are able to take this holographic blur and convert it inyo the sticks and stones and other familiar objects that make up our world...
 
and finally the Bohm conclusion:  that we even construct space and time...
 
My point is that Keshe may have found a singular & easy way to 'access/modify' the flux of standing waves that are permeating our universe: the process could be so simple or extremely sophisticated according to way you see it.
It is also interesting to note that I'm in contact with a researcher that developed  ...a way of understanding the well hided meaning of words. After a 20 years of search he seems to have uncovered a Mathematical (in broad sense) way to fraction the words and make associations directly to quantum energy. All is almost independent from the original Language (italian, english, france, etc). Quite intringuing.
 Ciao
ronotte
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 13, 2013, 12:49:06 PM
Hi Gwandau,

Sorry for this delayed answer. I have taken with other activities and I forgot to respond.

You say that we can't "reach any new insights if it wasn't for the very paradigm we managed to transcend and rise above.". In a way you are right, in other way you don't. What I mean, is the fact that looking from inside the actual scientific paradigm, someone can't see other way, but when someone look from outside the actual scientific paradigm (even if it passed through and rised above it, or had an education based on other bases) he know that there are other ways, and can see what is wrong and more than that why the actual civilization has followed the path that it followed.

Otherwise I agree with what you say about particles, primordial force, nodes, standing waves. But I interpret it however in terms of a full space, an extremely dense space. And I don't forget any moment that all these terms were consecrated and based on the empty space paradigm. In my mind they have other meanings, and I see them just as a local interpretation, due to our limit of comprehension and understanding of a phenomenon.

I originally wanted to do and I experiment with Cola bottle, but now no longer want so much. To me it is obvious that magnetism is a dominant force and creator of our material world and beyond. But not the scientific magnetism, instead that magnetism present everywhere in universe, on all dimensional levels. I am interested to understand this primary magnetism, and how to use it to our dimensional level.

Related to Keshe's reactor, it not represent a viable solution for me. I live in an apartment and can not do experiments like this. Not to say that radioactivity is a very well monitored isue by the competent institutions of my country.

But I am interested to deep understand the Keshe's theory (besides other theory that I studied along time) to make for example the device of Steven Mark, or of Sweet Floyd, or of Hendershot, or of Kapanadze, or of Hubbard... or way not, the flying platform of Grebennikov, or Searl, or David Hamel, or Thomas Brown, or... many others!

But I don't want to waste my time with actual electromagnetic theory (because I waste it for many years until some years ago), which I consider to be totaly wrong, with all the development that she brought. Electricity does not even exist, except as a convention of a phenomenon misinterpreted ... but that is another story.

It's all about interpretation and references on which we interpret the phenomena that we observe trought our 5 senses, or/and trough technological extensions of them. Unfortunately only theirs!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on January 13, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
I wonder how it is possible that scientists and engineers, all of whom are using this "totaly wrong" model, including non-existent electricity and so on, are able to use mathematics and the formulations of Quantum Electrodynamics, to design all these wonderful devices, like computers and the tools that make them possible (LSI, ion beam lithography, etc) and to predict to incredible accuracy and precision the behaviour of new systems, which they can then build and confirm, if the models are so wrong.
How can a cellphone exist, for example, if QED is wrong?

People who claim that the standard model is so wrong, need to be able to explain how it is so successful, in spite of its being wrong. You can't just throw out the system that enables all of the miraculous devices we take for granted, without explaining how a wrong model, used by all these sadly misguided engineers, can possibly work so well.

How, for example, have we been able to send a robot spacecraft to the moons of Saturn, make a soft landing on Titan, and send back photographs and loads of other data, if the standard models of gravity, Newtonian dynamics, general electromagnetism and QED are all wrong?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 13, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
TinselKoala,

Reag again my last sentence from last message. And reflect on it at least twice!

The actual science, the actual world, represents only o way of evolution, or more correct and according to my understandings a way of involution. Can you understand and agree wit this? No, you can't because you don't want to see what is wrong with our world. You are deep immersed in it, in its illusion, and can't see outside of it.

Our actual world is just a way, and unfortunately can not even say it's a good way! What are the cause, when was its course changed, why... at all these questions will have to look yourself for answers. Only then you will see what and why is wrong!

One simple example in accordance wirh main theme of this topic: did you heard about Faraday paradox? Try to find an answer to it, and until you will find, don't come back and tell me how perfect is our "science"! And of course there are many, many paradoxes in all science domains, even in day by day life!

Open your eyes and brain, both cerebral hemispheres not only the logical one, and maybe you will see and understand more! Don't forget, you have two arms, legs, eyes, ears, which you use day by day! Why don't use your both cerebral hemispheres? And more than that, if you have courage, try to decalcify pineal gland! Then to see you!

These are not reproaches, are simple requests for taking actions and getting out of today's illusion!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on January 14, 2013, 04:49:28 AM
TinselKoala,

Reag again my last sentence from last message. And reflect on it at least twice!
Sadang..... newbie..... please read again the last sentence from my last message, reflect on it however many times you need to, and then _answer the question_.
How can all these wondrous things be achieved, especially the high precision of predictions of the standard QED model..... some of which are accurate to more than 13 decimal places of precision..... if these models are wrong?
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The actual science, the actual world, represents only o way of evolution, or more correct and according to my understandings a way of involution. Can you understand and agree wit this? No, you can't because you don't want to see what is wrong with our world. You are deep immersed in it, in its illusion, and can't see outside of it.

You are quite adept at telling me what YOU think is wrong with my understanding, aren't you. But my understanding produces results that can be confirmed by experiment, and I show this over and over again with  my demonstrations, and we are surrounded by devices that could not have been made without this kind of conventional understanding.... like your computer for one thing. Where are YOUR demonstrations of the correctness of your view? Can you show a single thing that is NOT predicted by the conventional models, that your "understanding" predicts, and that can be confirmed by experiments? I think not.

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Our actual world is just a way, and unfortunately can not even say it's a good way! What are the cause, when was its course changed, why... at all these questions will have to look yourself for answers. Only then you will see what and why is wrong!

Oh, yes we can say that "it's a good way".... because this is proven to us every day! The rest of your sentence makes no sense to me. Look to myself for answers? Rather, I look to my education, and to the marvels that the science in which I am educated produces all around us every day.

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One simple example in accordance wirh main theme of this topic: did you heard about Faraday paradox? Try to find an answer to it, and until you will find, don't come back and tell me how perfect is our "science"! And of course there are many, many paradoxes in all science domains, even in day by day life!

Yes, I am aware of the Faraday "paradox", and like just about all other scientific "paradoxes" it is a matter of reference frames, mistaken interpretations and irrelevancies. Once you understand how homopolar motor/generators actually work, and when you understand that "field lines" are just as "real" as lines of latitude and longitude or isobars on a weather map, you might begin to see that there is really no paradox there at all.

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Open your eyes and brain, both cerebral hemispheres not only the logical one, and maybe you will see and understand more! Don't forget, you have two arms, legs, eyes, ears, which you use day by day! Why don't use your both cerebral hemispheres? And more than that, if you have courage, try to decalcify pineal gland! Then to see you!


Decalcify pineal gland. Well.... that pretty  much says it all, doesn't it? I think you are in some other world, not this real one.

Where is your empirical support for ideas such as "decalcifying pineal gland"? Can you cite a single peer-reviewed study in a real journal that has anything to do with this idea? How do you decalcify _your_ pineal gland? By viewing frequencies? Meditation? Pardon me while I laugh in my coffee.

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These are not reproaches, are simple requests for taking actions and getting out of today's illusion!

They certainly sound like reproaches to me, and I note that you still haven't provided any answers: How does a "wrong" model manage to be so very successful, and how does YOUR model stand up? Where is a device that works according to your preferred world view, how does your preferred world view allow spacecraft to hit their marks, how does it allow precise ion-beam lithography, where is the prediction to 13 digits of precision made by your model?

I am afraid that you are the one with illusions that are blinding you to the very real "reality" that surrounds you. Any model that pretends to replace the standard one of Physics MUST be able to explain at least as much as the standard one does, and must also predict new things that the standard one does not, and these predictions must be supported by experimental data. Where is your experimental support? Mine is all around us, and in fact you are reading this on a prime example of just how good the standard concepts of physics really are -- your computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_tests_of_QED

For you to credibly claim that this model is wrong.... you need to provide a better one, or at least show some empirical support for your claim of "wrongness."  Certainly there are things that physics still does not understand. But any new model must include all of the old results and expand on them, just as Einstein's relativity model includes Newtonian dynamics within it, and expands upon it to extreme velocities and extreme gravitation.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on January 14, 2013, 06:32:55 AM
TinselKoala,
 
Our model is not successful, it is extremely primitive and lacking a basic understanding of source dynamics and universal interconnectivness.
The only thing we have succeded to do is turning our planet into a dump, where the contamination of virgin country and the exploitation of our natural resources can be seen everywhere on earth.
 
Our contemporary scientific model merely allow us to play around within our confines and implement those "wonders" without really understanding the basics.
You don't have to know the chemical structure of water so sail it.
 
Seen from this perspective the same goes for any of our wonders implemented by science without knowning anything about source dynamics.
Could it be that mankind’s experimental results and observations are accurate, but wrongly interpreted when explained?
As I have said before, what if our nicely defined forces like gravity and electromagnetism are not even forces at all?
 
What if the phenomenon we call electricity will be limited from a deeper understanding as long as we keep regarding it as moving particles?
 
What if even light itself is not a wave that travels from A to B?
The conclusion that light is something that moves from A to B is nothing more than a guess based upon the combination of source/receptor measurements and our brains suggestion that it must be something that travels. The recorded light speed measurments could just as well be the result of our unawareness of field differentials in a universe were everything relates to everything else through these field differential. We just don't know yet.
 
And that's what it is all about, we don't know.  Nobody on earth does.
 
Sadang is trying to convey to you that the observations made by contemporary science are accurate by wrongly interpreted, meaning that humanity is inevitably confined to the limitations created by our low altitude of understanding.
 
Along with our present limitations in understanding universe is our obvious lack of understanding the part our consciousness play.
 
What if the highest form of energy is consciousness?
What if consciousness is superior to physical reality, as quantum mechanics seems to indicate in relation to the observer and the observed?

What makes you so sure the world is even physical? Because you senses and measuring instruments tells you that? Think about that for a moment.
 
The present scientific model is merely a halting fumbling try to get things connected, and their electronic trinkets are really not making any of us able to even adress any question of depht.
 
 
 
As far as I am concerned, mankind has gone so far astray from a holistic world view that we will cause irreversable damage to our planet if we don't stop right now and change our course.
In order to change the course, no scientific endeavor will be enough. Our way of treating our fellow humans and fellow animals and fellow trees and so forth indicates severe global sicknes of the mind.
Mankind need to reconnect.

And as long as we observe reality in a non holistic way, we are confined within the narrowness of the frequency band of reality we presently focus upon, effectivly inhibiting us from getting access to a higher level of understanding.
 
A Science without deep love and respect permeating every move of its progress is bound to be subjected to wrong turns, due to the mere lack of connectivity.
 
We are all one, merely looking into this world through the eyes of our temporary interfaces, giving us the illusion of being separate.
 
Have you ever thanked grandmother earth for givíng you the opportunity to enjoy her splendor?

She is alive, you know.
 
Gwandau
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 14, 2013, 06:43:00 AM
TinselKoala,

Your "very real reality" is not a reality at all. It is just a think, an ideea, o convention. Look deep inside the atom, beyound quarks, and see that there is nothing material. NOTHING!

Only our interpretation, our way of thinking based on our understandings (wrong ones) make the actual science with its laws and experimental proof, which give material characteristics to our world.

The actual "very real reality" is just an illusion, maintained by consciousness of billions of people who are educated (or blinded) alike. It is just a model which can be changed when 50%+1 will rethink the world and its intrinsec structure and dynamics on other way. Even if you accept or understand this!

You can't understand all these, because you never had the courage to lean on them, or were forced by system to don't pay attention. More than this, I am sure yoy were educated to not pay attention to all paradoxes existent everywhere in actual science, and even were learn how to confuse the interlocutor, directing him to convenient explanations, empty and without content.

I am not interested in per-reviewd and do not give a damn about it. It's just another form of control and manipulation of consciousness. I prefer to educate myself and discuss issues that interest me, with those who have an open mind, which have in their turn fundamental questions, not pettifogging that revolve around the bush when I ask uncomfortable questions.

I'm not a hypocrite not to see current science achievements, but as long as it is full of constant postulates and paradoxes, and has no consistency from top to bottom, from left to right and vice versa, then I allow myself to look for those connections that unify and make them consistent.

Argumentation brought to you to Faraday paradox is exactly what I said earlier, namely turning around the tail, and use of evasive answers. And I don't asked to explain or to prove me the Faraday paradox. But you explain it to youself, and then really lean on magnetism. That preferably before the Peregrini's magnetism, or one that you will not find explained in school manuals. In those pre-reviwed school manuals.

You say that I live in illusion. No, I am very involved in classical electromagnetism, professionally and socially. That's why I am looking for alternatives to what not thank me. And prefer to rethink the entire science from scratch, basing it on other bases, with principles and laws coherent and having universal validity.

As you followed the unabated ways of official science, I followed the ways of alternative science for many years. Two different worlds, with different premises and different ways of interpretation. My world goes to show the continuity of manifestations in a single principle, but instead you go to a shredding in parts increasingly smaller of the world and quantifying them. Which would be the reality? Yours, a cuantified world in an empty space, or mine a continuous world in an full space? Anybody knows?

Newton, Einstein... Ha! Newton with a terestrial gravity, Einstein with another cosmological gravity, totally different from each other. Newton with gravity like a force (of attraction or repulsion - depends on referential!!!), Einstein with gravity like a curvature of space (that empty space???).

Quantum electrodynamics... we come back to magnetism, to magnetic dipol theory or elementary particle... But even above I explained that there are no actually particles, but only properties that give characteristic of particle, properties relative to our interpretation, interpretation founded on understanding of phenomena, understanding founded in its turn on the way of interpretation, trough the five human senses and their tehnological extensions! Can you observe the closed circle in which we revolves in analysis and explanation of a phenomenon?

What is an electron inside? What is its internal structure and forces that act internally? The actual scientific dualism wave-particle is a shame! And also the entire electromagnetism evolved on this dualism! This dualism is just a convenient way (but not the right one) to expres the cjaracteristic observed in different experiments, all these experiments and their conceptual premises being designed in terms of empty space and in the case of closed systems. That is a great mistake!

I now you don't have the courage to think like me, or even to seek answers to current paradoxes and thrown constants, where the equation does not have solutions, everywhere in science. Perhaps you have to defend a blazon, a hierarchy, but whatever your reasons, I can say that you lie to yourself! And more severely forbids others the right to their own evolution.

Let's came back to Keshe's plasmatic magnetism, to stay in topic's theme, and try to understand it. It is more useful than any other theories from all that per-reviewd scientific books or articles.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 14, 2013, 07:33:32 AM
Don't mind TK, Sadang, (it's his highly restrictive diet of eucalyptus leaves :-\ ).

All is belief.....or very little of what we know is what really is.  We've always had those who would arrogantly try and bring that which is above, down here to be sorely mistreated.  We scratch and pull, grasping for the Greater.  Rather than first struggling to show ourselves approved to receive it humbly, graciously.

Faith is like throwing crumpled paper balls in the basket.  First, crumpling the paper at all shows that one is expecting at least something to happen.  Second, the act of throwing toward the goal shows that one seeks harmony with the end result.  Thirdly, who ever stops at one?  We have another sheet ready to go until we achieve that splendiferous splinter of harmony we so rarely seek and even more rarely, find.  That is the 'way of faith'.  Faith is a muscle, a process.  And only through much practice and growth can it be nourished to bring forth more than scattered fractions of it's perfect essence.  Ever notice how those who can pontificate the science of throwing baskets in agonizing detail are often the worst at actually doing it? 

We've all experienced those perfect moments, Designed to spark us to Greater things.  But for that spark to give rise to an Eternal flame, we must allow it to consume in us all that is fit for burning.  For if we cling to those elementary things, we choke the flame out, and it's back to only sparks for most (arrested development)....sparks all too easily ignored rather than assiduously engendered.

Matthew 17:20 Yeshua said to them, “Because of your unbelief, for amen, I say to you, that if you had faith like a grain of mustard seed, you may say to this mountain, 'Move from here', and it will move, and nothing will be difficult for you”.

Miracles abound for those who nurture and grow their faith from it's 'mustard seed like' state into a hearty tree with permanent roots deep into the unseen, and downtrodden...where the miracles happen.

The increase in answered prayers, and the decreased wait time has been astounding for many as of late!  Christ said that in the late hour, He will answer His children before they even call.....and it's getting close!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dpGWYZMDc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dpGWYZMDc)


Blessings in Christ
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 14, 2013, 10:19:16 AM
The last interview of Mr. Keshe, from this year:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-SbdGLZz74&feature=youtu.be

This interview toward the end from around 1:17 minutes into it Mr. Keshe reveals a new Universal Peace Initiative for the whole world with all leaders will be announced to take place in either Tehran or in Palestine this January 21st, 2013!

It is because of the nations of great power, like America, China, Russia, etc., have now understood that the Keshe technologies make weapons of war obsolete. Mr. Keshe makes it clear that whenever he extended the USB drives to each countries representative he also extended his hand of peace, and of friendship.

America was extended that peaceful gesture as the hand of Iranian goodwill through Mehran Keshe and accepted as such by American authority. Mr. Keshe thanked President Obama and Ahmadinejad generously giving a time frame that will be seen directly after the second swearing in of Obama for the intended World Peace Initiative to take place as agreed by the nations involved on the January date mentioned above.

This is very exciting news and cannot be misconstrued or incorrectly interpreted by us as anything other than what it is.

World Peace, through parity of powers and arms as deterents of war will be in affect, all fighter jets, and missiles will become obsolete, as will all other conventional weaponry.

Iran will be seen soon in a few short weeks or months as the peaceful nation it is, and also as a leader of advanced space technologies. The capturing of two spy drones on Dec. 3rd, 2011, and on the anniversary date on Dec. 3rd, 2012 was a clear demonstration of the developed skills and capabilities of Iranian scientists with the Keshe technology. It is now clear to other powers of the world that war has become obsolete!

May we all share this news, and give thanks to Iran, and to Mehran Keshe for this gift of Peace to all of mankind.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on January 14, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Talking about the "greater and deeper understanding" does not help if it fails in practice. And I don't see any gift from Keshe yet, as he failed to deliver anything of practical use since his appearance. Good luck dreaming on.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 14, 2013, 09:07:13 PM
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Talking about the "greater and deeper understanding" does not help if it fails in practice.

It is only after it fails in practice that greater and deeper understanding is usually revealed.

The key is to continue to practice....

It makes perfect.


Blessings in Christ


P.S. Even old men share young men's mistakes on occasion, if only to remind them that they are still capable of being young at heart.


Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: happyfunball on January 15, 2013, 11:13:43 AM
Keshe follows the same pattern as every other swindler. His twist is to release the bogus 'technology' to governments directly to lend the appearance of validity.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 15, 2013, 12:46:44 PM



"Safety Not Guaranteed"




I'm going back to change everything.




 8)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 15, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
Just empty words without content. If those brilliant maverick of their times, would have thought and behaved as most clevers of our days behave (ie animate only by their own interests, not passionate about what they do - just like some bio-robots), we would have been now full of miracles, superstitions and many dogma with scientific rank.

As if from macro to micro cosmos there is something static! Only man (primitive thinking and behavior) wants a law in every area of ​​existence here and now, forever remain unchanged, because it is good and it is warm for him (more correct for his physical body)! As if human consciousness would not evolve too, but would remain at the same level, at the same understandings among the generations. Only arrogance and ignorance everywhere!

And when the first Keshe generators will be distributed to the people, ignorant and malevolent will find other arguments against! The essence is that he and those like him DO, and speakers ... just continue to SPEAK nonsense!

I am convinced that all that denigrate and blame work of this man did not even read his patents, what to say about his books, conferences, interviews. Only arrogance from their fullness of ignorance!
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: gauschor on January 15, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
And when the first Keshe generators will be distributed to the people

When, when when... oh when the saints...

- This has been the same story for years.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 15, 2013, 08:30:17 PM



God's Recall Notice (http://dedeswalkwithgod.com/Gods_Recall_Notice.html)





Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Farmhand on January 16, 2013, 01:53:45 AM
How about a demonstration from one of the believers or from Keshe himself showing clearly more output energy than is input by the
operator ?

When I see such demonstration I will read something he wrote and research it.
If we all read everything written by all the OU claimants our heads would be so full tripe it would be difficult to clear out.

Why do people repeatedly fail to properly demonstrate their OU claims ?
If you claim it and show no proof it's like a puff of bad air in the wind, better gone elsewhere.

I challenge all believers to produce a Keshe device demonstrating OU. Or at least show evidence of someone elses.

Cheers
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: sadang on January 16, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
Hey, from where this mentality to wait that someone who make something, he have to show you, to explain you, to prove you, to bag you to believe what he say? From where this infantile mentality ta wait? What is wothwhile if someone show you something, and you can replicate it? What is this way valuable to you? On the contrary, this mode of thinking will disadvantage will limit your creative potential. Will turn into robots which move only within certain limits well established by the system, even if you do not even notice them.

It is not at all avaluable way of thinking, but you are used to think in this way, by the system. This is a robotic way of thinking from which is excluded your own analysis, usage of your own minds, of your own brain, in deep analysis and interpretation of certain phenomena. The system force you to think in a limited an precise way, according to its imposed scientific, social, mental, moral, institutional and many other limits. When you all who think in this way will understand all these, only then you will begin to open your eye, and see!

Look in hystory, over times all that invented something which was not according to scientific paradigms of that time, have been vilified, defamed, misused, convicted, and even killed. If you do not believe me do your own investigation. But I do not think that is the case, once you are active on this forum about overunity. What happened this way? Due to different interests of the institutions of the system. System that shapes our way of thinking, consciousness, second by second on all of us, including me. Just that I see and understand, and not because someone told me and showed me, but I tried to understand and I found only approximations in exact sciences, evasive answers where there should have celar answers, and so on. In all aspects of the actual civilisation.

So, the onely solution is to change your way of thinking. The main question that have lead you should be "Why"! Don't be superficial in going deep and deep with this question, because the system whant you to be superficial. Don't limit at physics to say, because all aspects of human life are interconected, physics being just a small part of it, and because the system want you to be an expert in physics and an idiot in all others aspect of your proper life. And you yourself default are born and manifest all science, social, moral and so on of the actual civilisation domains. You me, and they, we all shape the world we live in, but most do it without knowing and understanding it, and those who know and understand this crucial issue are those who lead us. Think about!

Just few words I have to say; Mr. Keshe start his program of video teachings in which he present video movies and lectures from his previous lab experiments. There is an italian team who already made their own reactor, according to Mr. Keshe's patent, and soon they will publish their results.

All those who are mature enough to understand, or those who worked in plasma physics and/or nuclear energy, know very well what legal restrictions and limitations are in these areas, internally and internationally. And how hard it can be to publish results in these areas. Just be patient and wait without denigrating, or put your hand and study all these.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on January 16, 2013, 07:54:10 PM
Sadang,
 
We live in a predatory world and it is very hard to know who is good and who is bad.

Farmhand has a good point there. So many today like Keshe claiming without hardcore proof.
 

I like Keshes interpretation of physical reality since it appeals to my own radical "physics belief system", and he might actually be one of the few genuine ones in this "business". But without substantial proof we are no better than the poor religious person who have decided to believe in something without anything real backing it up. And this is not religion, on the contrary the mental atmosphere needed to "survive" in this mess of different claims all over is an atmosphere of cool and healthy scientific rigor. If you cannot repeat it for others to see, you cannot walk your talk.
 

So many claims today, which should we choose to study? Better to wait and see. Time will tell.
 
Or even better, try your own wings. Study nature closely, it is all there for those who have the eyes. So many phenomenons still unexplained and remaining a total mystery to man. Pick your fruit and do you own walking, it is much more rewarding and fun than placing ones stake on somebody elses claims.
 
 
My advice to everybody is make your own path.
 

Learn the delicate art of how to stand with one foot in chaos and one foot on solid ground, and start fishing.
 

Gwandau
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 16, 2013, 11:04:57 PM



Quote
Learn the delicate art of how to stand with one foot in chaos and one foot on solid ground, and start fishing.


Or, instead of hopping on one foot, hoping not to fall into chaos, one could perhaps use any number of beneficial inventions for the purpose of fishing.


Quote
But without substantial proof we are no better than the poor religious person who have decided to believe in something without anything real backing it up.


Here is but one of gazillions of examples of substantial proof of massively intelligent design....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-j5kKSk_6U


The reason that the vast majority of sentient beings on this planet believe in a Creator, IS the amount of substantial proof.


To believe that such an electric motor and a myriad of other amazing engineering feats which man in his 'glorious wisdom' is helpless and hopeless to match, came about by blind, dumb, chance, is nothing short of intellectual cowardice in the extreme.



Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on January 18, 2013, 02:49:10 AM



Or, instead of hopping on one foot, hoping not to fall into chaos, one could perhaps use any number of beneficial inventions for the purpose of fishing.

You really don't get it, do you?
Chaos is the very source of creativity. It is from this very realm all novel insights reach the human consciousness.
 
"Hopping on one foot".....you just cannot convince me that you are that ignorant
 
Quote

Here is but one of gazillions of examples of substantial proof of massively intelligent design....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-j5kKSk_6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-j5kKSk_6U)


The reason that the vast majority of sentient beings on this planet believe in a Creator, IS the amount of substantial proof.


To believe that such an electric motor and a myriad of other amazing engineering feats which man in his 'glorious wisdom' is helpless and hopeless to match, came about by blind, dumb, chance, is nothing short of intellectual cowardice in the extreme.

We are not discussing religion in this forum anymore.
My input was merely to highlight the difference between science and faith, since science does not allow any faith to contaminate the beauty of scientific method.
Just so you know, I personally believe in an intelligent design, but that is nothing more than my personal belief, it does not mean shit scientifically.
 
Sadang have faith in the works of Keshe without any substantial proof backing it up. I just pointed that out in a respectful way.
 
Please keep your comments on a humble level if you want to communicate. Hammering ones opinions onto the listener with glee and ridicule does not create communication.
 
 
Gwandau
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on January 18, 2013, 05:16:42 AM

You really don't get it, do you?
Chaos is the very source of creativity. It is from this very realm all novel insights reach the human consciousness.
 
"Hopping on one foot".....you just cannot convince me that you are that ignorant
 
We are not discussing religion in this forum anymore.
My input was merely to highlight the difference between science and faith, since science does not allow any faith to contaminate the beauty of scientific method.
Just so you know, I personally believe in an intelligent design, but that is nothing more than my personal belief, it does not mean shit scientifically.
 
Sadang have faith in the works of Keshe without any substantial proof backing it up. I just pointed that out in a respectful way.
 
Please keep your comments on a humble level if you want to communicate. Hammering ones opinions onto the listener with glee and ridicule does not create communication.
 
 
Gwandau
I am sorry, no source of free energry has ever come close to nuclear energy let alone fusion energy, where are we going with this?
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on January 18, 2013, 05:23:42 AM


The reason that the vast majority of sentient beings on this planet believe in a Creator, IS the amount of substantial proof.


lets see all your stored proof!!!! I want facts and facts only you deranged little twit. apparently your proof doesn't account in physics and it doesn't account for anything except what you have in your own mind, which I say is shit.

 ummmmm, Koko the Gorilla didn't believe in a creator(God) or are you gonna hold that against thee smartest gorilla on earth?
before you decide to comment I hope you research her severely. else I kick your ass more.

don't bring your creator here without mathematical proof else keep your dam god to your self. pathetic moron trying to brain wash people into this crap, how dare you.

your god and everyone else god needs to die, they deserve it. fuking mass murders of thought.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TechStuf on January 18, 2013, 12:07:17 PM

onthecuttingedge2005,  Intellectual cowardice is one thing. Becoming unhinged and acting deranged while castigating others as same, is hardly cutting edge. It's actually quite retro, dark ages even. 

So, you hate God, and the vast majority of people on the planet.  We get it.  He gets it too. There are many in positions of power around the globe who think just like you, so you are in elite company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UikA3tWu2VA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UikA3tWu2VA)


Blessings in Christ
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Gwandau on January 18, 2013, 07:58:09 PM
I am sorry, no source of free energry has ever come close to nuclear energy let alone fusion energy, where are we going with this?

???????..................!
 
You must have quoted wrong post. :o
 
Gwandau
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on February 14, 2013, 10:54:15 PM
In the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBjtYW6qI4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBjtYW6qI4)

About 35 min. into the video Mr. Keshe speaks about the Twinity. 
He relates this with a layer of nano particles. 
He then takes those layers of nano particles and stacks them.
As graphene then diamond, graphene then diamond, etc.
He shows these stacked 40,000 layers deep, as capacitor plates,
and states that these layers will collect the full spectrum of
cosmic energy from the environment around us.
From my understanding of electronics and physics this makes perfect sense. 
He states that he has found a way of stacking these layers using plasma
technology similar to the simple coke bottle experiment. 
He also states a panel 1 meter x 0.5 meters in size could put out 3 to 4 KW. of electric power and works at night. 
Someone in the audience tries chewing on it and it holds out.  If we knew how he made this sample
and could replicate this, we would have the endless power supply we need. 
This is what I was hoping to figure out when I first started this thread.
I hope others here will try different combinations of liquids in a plastic bottle
and find the proper substance that builds graphene and diamond layers. 
We know it's done using the plasma in the bottle's gases and not from the liquid at the bottom. 
I have been trying different substances myself but haven't found the right one yet. 
I used Borax, Ammonia, Methyl hydrate, baking soda, carbonated water with sodium hydroxide,
home made boric acid, sugar water, and Vinegar. 
So far I got the best results with the ammonia. 

I'm looking for a substance that would liberate carbon nano particles from the plastic of the bottle
and then deposit then on the copper wire. 
He does mention the use of an AC frequency connected to the terminals in the bottle. 
I think the AC causes the layers to Alternate between graphene and diamond. 

Please people try to contribute with some useful posts of personal experiments and
not keep posting comments on views and opinions.
 
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: AbbaRue on March 31, 2014, 01:04:31 AM
It's been a long time since I started this thread but I've been waiting for some solid info to share before further posts. 
And here it is.  I replicated Mr. Keshe's nano coated copper technology and build some power cells from it. 
Here is a video of my first cell setup.  This was just a quick test setup, I have the parts ready to set up a new set of cells that use bigger electrodes.
I discovered a very interesting phenomenon while taking oscilloscope readings.  Please watch the video to see my results.
This stuff is so easy to replicate that a little kid could do it, just got to work safe with the Sodium Hydroxide, it can destroy your eye site.
Always wear eye protection if nothing else.

http://youtu.be/2rn7MIdXFco (http://youtu.be/2rn7MIdXFco)

Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: Jimboot on March 31, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
Just left a comment on your channel. Are you sure the lights being switched is not just causing interference in your scope? Interesting that you are getting ac from your cells though. Thanks
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on March 31, 2014, 02:11:11 PM
It's been a long time since I started this thread but I've been waiting for some solid info to share before further posts. 
And here it is.  I replicated Mr. Keshe's nano coated copper technology and build some power cells from it. 
Here is a video of my first cell setup.  This was just a quick test setup, I have the parts ready to set up a new set of cells that use bigger electrodes.
I discovered a very interesting phenomenon while taking oscilloscope readings.  Please watch the video to see my results.
This stuff is so easy to replicate that a little kid could do it, just got to work safe with the Sodium Hydroxide, it can destroy your eye site.
Always wear eye protection if nothing else.

http://youtu.be/2rn7MIdXFco (http://youtu.be/2rn7MIdXFco)

I am afraid that you are reading garbage on your oscilloscope. You are not using it properly and it is not displaying a stable signal. If I am not mistaken you are showing the channel "AC coupled" as well. The frequencies and voltages you are reading are just noise. When you turn on the lights you are now picking up RF from the CFL's power supply. Most of the noise you are showing would probably go away if you grounded your input properly. The cells and wiring are acting like a huge antenna; some of what you are seeing on the scope is actually coming from your house wiring surrounding your room.

There is much "finesse" involved in using oscilloscopes properly and there are people here who may be able to help you learn to use yours better. For example, the "AC coupled" setting is _not_  primarily for reading AC voltages, it is for removing DC offsets. Are you using a proper shielded probe? I see the channel is set to "1x" attenuation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykX4nZglnGE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykX4nZglnGE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFyaQY6pR0
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on March 31, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
You stimulated me into making a little video. I didn't have time to set up any cells....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSfSswzlWJw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSfSswzlWJw)

 :'( :'(


I'm pretty sure that your cells will be producing an actual straight DC level, and that you will see some noise on top of that ripple. May I suggest the following:

1. Use an attenuated probe, 10x. Hook the "ground" or reference lead to the cathode of your LED. Hook the "tip" or probe to the anode of the LED.
2. Set the channel input to DC coupled, 10x to match the probe, and 1 or 2 volts per vertical division. If your scope has an offset setting, set it to Zero, or manually set the channel baseline to the center graticule marker.
3. Set the trigger to trigger on the same channel you are reading, and at a level of about 0.5 volts positive.
4. Now scan through the various horizontal timebase settings to see if there is some slow or fast oscillation or pulsation you might be able to catch.

This should show you the DC level that your cells are putting out. Once you know the value of this level by looking at it at reasonable resolution and DC coupled, then you can see if there is a ripple sitting on top of that DC level.

1. Switch the scope to AC coupled. You should see the trace from "4" above drop down to the baseline graticule marker in the center.
2. Now change the vertical resolution from the 1 or 2 volts you had before, down in stages down to 200 or 20 mV per division. You may have to reset the trigger or set it to "auto". (DO NOT push the "auto everything" or auto setup button, you'll lose your settings! Just set the trigger itself to "auto".)

Now you should be seeing noise or ripple similar to what you had in the video, only a more stable display. You can read the magnitude of the noise/ripple, remembering that the center graticule marker now indicates the DC level that you read in step 3 above, not "zero", so your noise or ripple isn't really AC, it's a fluctuating level of DC.

ETA: In case it isn't clear by now... in general you should keep your scope channels set to "DC coupled" if you want valid voltage readings. Some specialized measurements require the use of AC coupling, most do not. It has really nothing to do with whether you are measuring an AC or a DC signal. The "AC coupled" feature just switches a capacitor in series with the probe input instead of the straight wire "DC coupled" setting. So the capacitor blocks the DC component and passes the fluctuating level of the signal. That's all it does.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on April 02, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
OK, in case the point isn't clear yet.... when you select "AC Coupling" for your scope's input.... you are actually filtering out any DC component of your measured signal. You simply won't see the DC part if you use "AC Coupling". If that's what you want to do, fine. But don't go getting all excited about your "AC Batteries", because your measurements of ambient noise, made with the AC-coupled channel, don't support your claim.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: broli on October 13, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
Noticed the keshe foundation website was selling something new. A kit that is able to produce solid CO2 (in 'plasma matter' form) using a specially treated plate and a zinc/nickel? plate.

http://keshefoundation.org/shop/category/view/5.html (http://keshefoundation.org/shop/category/view/5.html)

I must say the selling price is negligible compared to the claim, I presume to be producing an unlimited amount of this gooy CO2 material (and even energy?). I don't know if the kit comes with any instructions or more information but as it stands there is very little information on production rate, the degradation of the "nano" plate and how exactly the power is produced.

EDIT:

Found the more extensive 2 part video on this kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12PKWEo7iY&index=1&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg

And also a quote from someone of the keshe foundation:

Quote
Neo,
 
 Please listen to the 31st workshop (available for download in the banner above for Knowledge Seeker Workshops).  The plates will last a long long time, and create GANS from the start.  The Keshe Foundation is in the process of teaching what we can do with the GANS created, so keeping it safe in bottles will be the best idea.  The salt water can be any salinity, however, I believe the best option is to see what works for you, there is no wrong answer.
 
 The harvesting of the GANS can be done at any point, just use your best judgement on when you want to harvest.  With the prototype plates, I believe that they where harvesting every 24 hours or less.
 
 With the changing of the water, it is not needed.  Just add water as it evaporates.  Again, this isnt an exact science, because creation has never needed measuring cups. 
 
 Good luck with your GANS creation and thank you for helping clean up our planet!!
 
 WebKFteam
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: wings on October 13, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Noticed the keshe foundation website was selling something new. A kit that is able to produce solid CO2 (in 'plasma matter' form) using a specially treated plate and a zinc/nickel? plate.

http://keshefoundation.org/shop/category/view/5.html (http://keshefoundation.org/shop/category/view/5.html)

I must say the selling price is negligible compared to the claim, I presume to be producing an unlimited amount of this gooy CO2 material (and even energy?). I don't know if the kit comes with any instructions or more information but as it stands there is very little information on production rate, the degradation of the "nano" plate and how exactly the power is produced.

EDIT:

Found the more extensive 2 part video on this kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12PKWEo7iY&index=1&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12PKWEo7iY&index=1&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg)

And also a quote from someone of the keshe foundation:


back to 2012
http://www.overunity.com/12661/mehran-t-keshe-technologies/msg334330/#msg334330 (http://www.overunity.com/12661/mehran-t-keshe-technologies/msg334330/#msg334330)

with some news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVFkzuKG9Y&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVFkzuKG9Y&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg)
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: broli on October 13, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
back to 2012
http://www.overunity.com/12661/mehran-t-keshe-technologies/msg334330/#msg334330 (http://www.overunity.com/12661/mehran-t-keshe-technologies/msg334330/#msg334330)

Noted, but this is the first time the tech is available for public hands and scrutiny. This is either revolutionary or suicide as peers that are able to review this are pretty much the whole world.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: profitis on October 13, 2014, 11:51:06 PM
Now we must hunt for the principal behind this.zinc indicates a galvanic process when connected to the 'nano-plate'. Some type of cooling going on here
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: profitis on October 14, 2014, 12:33:04 AM
Perhaps some type of  catalytic conversion of atmospheric carbon dioxide to formic acid via  nascent h2? H2+ CO2 = HCOOH.very useful fuel is formic acid.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: profitis on October 14, 2014, 10:38:55 AM
This guy is a genius.he is definitely hydrogenating CO2 from the air into fuel of some sort. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc3982534/ the question is,is burning formaldehyde/paraformaldehyde/formic acid/formates more bang for your buck than just burning h2
Title: HHO generators
Post by: julia2014123 on October 15, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
HHO generators have no known harmful effects on healthy engines. HHO generator manufacturers often assert that oxyhydrogen helps clean carbon deposits from the engine's valves, but that's unlikely since HHO gas has no solvent effect whatsoever.

 Large amounts of quick-burning HHO in the cylinder itself may help to burn off some oil residue from the piston and cylinder head, but this premise hasn't been tested thoroughly enough to confirm.

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Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: profitis on October 18, 2014, 11:24:31 PM
You guys may want to try the new,improved keshe-formaldehyde slime in them engines baby,wink-wink
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: dvy1214 on December 10, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
So, what is the general consensus on on this guys plasma work. I personally have never heard him come anywhere close to tangible technical description of his work.

....

Very frustrating that there are people like this who do not realize that if it is really based on your home brew physics and works then whats the problem with open sourcing all the pertinent build info plus validated proof of the functional concepts.

- David
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: MarkE on December 10, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
My view is that Keshe is a con artist who promotes absurd BS and never delivers on his outrageous promises.  Ask him where those home electric generators are that are now almost four years overdue.
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: markdansie on December 10, 2014, 11:57:02 PM
He is a scam artists who serves as an inspiration to other scams like the QEG people. He is also very deluded.
Kind regards
Mark
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: dvy1214 on December 11, 2014, 12:21:15 AM
Yep thought so. Especially with the antigrav powered space trips with the extra five grand for the weightless experience lol starting this year!!! Oh and the moon in 2016!!

What kind of shitty fucking holes from hell do these people crawl out of. I need help locating them so I can carpet bomb them into oblivion.

And did anybody see his team try to sponge credit for first the drone shut down and then the AEGIS system shut down by the Russian old school jamming tech? Priceless.

This guy is a poster board for delusion that Hopegirl aspires to.

Thanks for the input.

- David
Title: Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
Post by: TinselKoala on December 11, 2014, 08:24:17 PM
The most amazing thing about Keshe is that there are actually people who believe in him. He thinks he's God, or something like God. But then lots of people believed in Sai Baba, too, and were completely taken in by his "materializations" of cheap watches, trinkets, and "vibuti" incense ash. If people will fall for that, I guess it's not so surprising that some other people will fall for the BS that Keshe emits.