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sadang

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2012, 09:42:12 AM »
Gwandau, I like your way of thinking. I just want to say that everything the man know today relates to references and interpretation. I mean the references used in the analysis of phenomena, and the way of interpretation of those phenomena, a way that is 100% dependent on references obtained and used in that interpretation. You have the courage and madness to reset everything you know and as you know, and rethink everything into a new paradigm of knowledge? Because in my point of view there is no other way! All we know, from macro to micro level is wrong founded. Everything is based on separate systems and the empty space separating them. Completely false!

And my suggestion si to start a Cola Bottle experiment. This experiment will prove more that the fact it generates energy from aparent empty space in the Cola bottle. That space is not empty at all, but it is very full of a kind of plasma at atomic leve, unseen by our eyes. An what it is more interesting is whit separate electrodes we still have a voltage, even more when the cap is get out. Why? Due to the environment... that empty environmet, which in reality is full of energy. A specific kind of energy. But about this on the steps of experiment.

The experiment suggested by you, was alreadu made by Boyd Bushman (Lokheed-Martin senior researcher) in the year of 1994, and already reproduced by  William Alek and Michael Ellegion on March12, 2009. Here is the link of experiment: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0yPdQ6SOIg. And here is another moment when we have to pay attention to the references used in interpretation of this fenomena, and also how we interpret this fenomena. Accordin to actual offcial scientific knowledge, it is a paradox. They should fall both in the same time, according to actual gravitational theory. But they don't! In other way of interpretation, using other way of thinking, in which the is not empty space at all, at any levels of manifestation, and using the ancient knowledge of magnetism (not the one of Peregrini, old of 800 years, and that is now the same as then), all phenomena are more natural, normal and in accordance with a universal specific dynamics and principle of manifestations. At all dimensional levels!

Are you ready for this chalenge?

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2012, 11:23:48 PM »
The real question is whether this phenomenon holds true south of the equator for the Bushman Experiement, does it reverse?

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« Reply #137 on: December 27, 2012, 11:27:43 PM »
Sadang,
 
As far as I am concerned, it is challenges like this that makes life worth living. I am personally not too interested in doing all the things already done.
 
I understand your position in regard to orthodox science, but there is really no end to the journey of understanding, there is no final truth in a dynamic universe of infinite proportions.
 
I have come to understand that every scientific paradigm is level dependent. Seen from an elevated point of view, our contemporary scientific outlook seems quite wrong founded. And it actually is, seen from a higher level of understanding. But this is a never ending ascent through the infinite consciousness altitude, and we first of all have to understand that we would not reach any new insights if it wasn't for the very paradigm we managed to transcend and rise above.
 

I am today aware of the inevitability of all so called forces being mere secondary responses to one single underlying force, vibrating forth our physical universe at an updating rate beyond human comprehension. This single underlying force is accellerating our spacetimefield into existence, giving our universe the appearance of physical properties and movement.
 
All so called forces are mere resonating "nodes" upon the frequency range of this underlying single force, all of them acting upon physical reality in relation to their positions in this underlying frequency range. Matter is just one resonance position of many other possible, being given its physical properties as a result of the standing waves created within this resonance node. Matter, Space, Light, Electromagnetism, Gravity and so forth, are but different positions in the same underlying frequency system. They really do not exist as free standing phenomena as we are fooled by our senses to believe.
 
Nothing in universe exists by its own means, it is all interdependent and interrelating. Still, there is not two atoms in universe that are equal. Each has its own field value in order to exist. This is an absolutely inevitable and neccessary condition in a truly relative universe, like ours. If two single atoms had the same field value, universe would instantly collapse. That's the beauty with a relative universe. Every single particle in universe is unique, still everything is connected and interdependent.
 
What I find interesting with the ideas presented by Keshe, is his holistic viewpoint in combination with the astounding similarities of insight independently gained by other individuals. Mankind is today standing at the dawn of events that will shape our future far beyond our wildest dreams, and Keshe may be one of those adding weight to the scale in the illuminated direction. It right now totally depends upon the net sum of human karma if our future will manifest as something beautiful or nightmarish. It's all up to us.
 

And I totally agree that "empty space" is anything but empty, there are so many direct scientifically validated facts that indicate this, like the inability to stop particle motion in helium at zero Kelvin, or the Kazimir effect, or the interesting discovery by physicists at Yale University who have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current" in a vacum free from any electromagnetic interference,  a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power.
 
Actually, as far as I am concerned, the very definition of "empty space" would be no space at all. How on earth can anybody even think of "empty space" as something that occupies space? To me this is self contradictory.
 

Now, Sadang, when it comes to creating a Keshe type plasma inductor, I have a feeling we need to know a lot more about the parameters involved if we are to succeed in such a project.

What have you got this far? I would be happy to hear your ideas on the subject.
 
 
Regards,

Gwandau
 
 
PS. Thanks for the links. I actually knew about the old Lockheed guy with his "same poles forced together magnet" experiment, but there are no scientific data on this, only his own story. But the other link sounds interesting. I will check that out.

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« Reply #138 on: January 13, 2013, 10:28:32 AM »
Hi Gwandau,
I like your way to approach our existence on earth. It happens that most of your statements are in accord with Michael Talbot and his well appreciated book 'The hologhraphic universe'. Did you know it?
Talbot (and Bohm) say that:
...the tangible reality of our everyday lives is really a kind of illusion, like an holographic image. Underlying it is a deeper order of existance, a vast and more primary level of reality that gives birth to all objects and appearances of our physical world in much the same way that a piece of holographic film gives Birth to a hologram...
... physical objects and everything else we perceive in reality are composed of interference patterns, a fact that has undeniable holographic implications...
 
and what I like most:
...Our brains mathematically construct objective reality by interpreting frequencies that are ultimately projections from another dimensions, a deeper order of existence that is bejond both space and time: the brain is a hologram enfolded in a holographic universe.. (Bohm & Pribam theories). For Pribam the objective world does not exist, at least not in the way we are accustomed to believing. What is 'out there' is a vast ocean of waves and frequencies, and reality looks concrete to us only because our brains are able to take this holographic blur and convert it inyo the sticks and stones and other familiar objects that make up our world...
 
and finally the Bohm conclusion:  that we even construct space and time...
 
My point is that Keshe may have found a singular & easy way to 'access/modify' the flux of standing waves that are permeating our universe: the process could be so simple or extremely sophisticated according to way you see it.
It is also interesting to note that I'm in contact with a researcher that developed  ...a way of understanding the well hided meaning of words. After a 20 years of search he seems to have uncovered a Mathematical (in broad sense) way to fraction the words and make associations directly to quantum energy. All is almost independent from the original Language (italian, english, france, etc). Quite intringuing.
 Ciao
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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #139 on: January 13, 2013, 12:49:06 PM »
Hi Gwandau,

Sorry for this delayed answer. I have taken with other activities and I forgot to respond.

You say that we can't "reach any new insights if it wasn't for the very paradigm we managed to transcend and rise above.". In a way you are right, in other way you don't. What I mean, is the fact that looking from inside the actual scientific paradigm, someone can't see other way, but when someone look from outside the actual scientific paradigm (even if it passed through and rised above it, or had an education based on other bases) he know that there are other ways, and can see what is wrong and more than that why the actual civilization has followed the path that it followed.

Otherwise I agree with what you say about particles, primordial force, nodes, standing waves. But I interpret it however in terms of a full space, an extremely dense space. And I don't forget any moment that all these terms were consecrated and based on the empty space paradigm. In my mind they have other meanings, and I see them just as a local interpretation, due to our limit of comprehension and understanding of a phenomenon.

I originally wanted to do and I experiment with Cola bottle, but now no longer want so much. To me it is obvious that magnetism is a dominant force and creator of our material world and beyond. But not the scientific magnetism, instead that magnetism present everywhere in universe, on all dimensional levels. I am interested to understand this primary magnetism, and how to use it to our dimensional level.

Related to Keshe's reactor, it not represent a viable solution for me. I live in an apartment and can not do experiments like this. Not to say that radioactivity is a very well monitored isue by the competent institutions of my country.

But I am interested to deep understand the Keshe's theory (besides other theory that I studied along time) to make for example the device of Steven Mark, or of Sweet Floyd, or of Hendershot, or of Kapanadze, or of Hubbard... or way not, the flying platform of Grebennikov, or Searl, or David Hamel, or Thomas Brown, or... many others!

But I don't want to waste my time with actual electromagnetic theory (because I waste it for many years until some years ago), which I consider to be totaly wrong, with all the development that she brought. Electricity does not even exist, except as a convention of a phenomenon misinterpreted ... but that is another story.

It's all about interpretation and references on which we interpret the phenomena that we observe trought our 5 senses, or/and trough technological extensions of them. Unfortunately only theirs!

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« Reply #140 on: January 13, 2013, 03:45:42 PM »
I wonder how it is possible that scientists and engineers, all of whom are using this "totaly wrong" model, including non-existent electricity and so on, are able to use mathematics and the formulations of Quantum Electrodynamics, to design all these wonderful devices, like computers and the tools that make them possible (LSI, ion beam lithography, etc) and to predict to incredible accuracy and precision the behaviour of new systems, which they can then build and confirm, if the models are so wrong.
How can a cellphone exist, for example, if QED is wrong?

People who claim that the standard model is so wrong, need to be able to explain how it is so successful, in spite of its being wrong. You can't just throw out the system that enables all of the miraculous devices we take for granted, without explaining how a wrong model, used by all these sadly misguided engineers, can possibly work so well.

How, for example, have we been able to send a robot spacecraft to the moons of Saturn, make a soft landing on Titan, and send back photographs and loads of other data, if the standard models of gravity, Newtonian dynamics, general electromagnetism and QED are all wrong?

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« Reply #141 on: January 13, 2013, 07:21:11 PM »
TinselKoala,

Reag again my last sentence from last message. And reflect on it at least twice!

The actual science, the actual world, represents only o way of evolution, or more correct and according to my understandings a way of involution. Can you understand and agree wit this? No, you can't because you don't want to see what is wrong with our world. You are deep immersed in it, in its illusion, and can't see outside of it.

Our actual world is just a way, and unfortunately can not even say it's a good way! What are the cause, when was its course changed, why... at all these questions will have to look yourself for answers. Only then you will see what and why is wrong!

One simple example in accordance wirh main theme of this topic: did you heard about Faraday paradox? Try to find an answer to it, and until you will find, don't come back and tell me how perfect is our "science"! And of course there are many, many paradoxes in all science domains, even in day by day life!

Open your eyes and brain, both cerebral hemispheres not only the logical one, and maybe you will see and understand more! Don't forget, you have two arms, legs, eyes, ears, which you use day by day! Why don't use your both cerebral hemispheres? And more than that, if you have courage, try to decalcify pineal gland! Then to see you!

These are not reproaches, are simple requests for taking actions and getting out of today's illusion!

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #142 on: January 14, 2013, 04:49:28 AM »
TinselKoala,

Reag again my last sentence from last message. And reflect on it at least twice!
Sadang..... newbie..... please read again the last sentence from my last message, reflect on it however many times you need to, and then _answer the question_.
How can all these wondrous things be achieved, especially the high precision of predictions of the standard QED model..... some of which are accurate to more than 13 decimal places of precision..... if these models are wrong?
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The actual science, the actual world, represents only o way of evolution, or more correct and according to my understandings a way of involution. Can you understand and agree wit this? No, you can't because you don't want to see what is wrong with our world. You are deep immersed in it, in its illusion, and can't see outside of it.

You are quite adept at telling me what YOU think is wrong with my understanding, aren't you. But my understanding produces results that can be confirmed by experiment, and I show this over and over again with  my demonstrations, and we are surrounded by devices that could not have been made without this kind of conventional understanding.... like your computer for one thing. Where are YOUR demonstrations of the correctness of your view? Can you show a single thing that is NOT predicted by the conventional models, that your "understanding" predicts, and that can be confirmed by experiments? I think not.

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Our actual world is just a way, and unfortunately can not even say it's a good way! What are the cause, when was its course changed, why... at all these questions will have to look yourself for answers. Only then you will see what and why is wrong!

Oh, yes we can say that "it's a good way".... because this is proven to us every day! The rest of your sentence makes no sense to me. Look to myself for answers? Rather, I look to my education, and to the marvels that the science in which I am educated produces all around us every day.

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One simple example in accordance wirh main theme of this topic: did you heard about Faraday paradox? Try to find an answer to it, and until you will find, don't come back and tell me how perfect is our "science"! And of course there are many, many paradoxes in all science domains, even in day by day life!

Yes, I am aware of the Faraday "paradox", and like just about all other scientific "paradoxes" it is a matter of reference frames, mistaken interpretations and irrelevancies. Once you understand how homopolar motor/generators actually work, and when you understand that "field lines" are just as "real" as lines of latitude and longitude or isobars on a weather map, you might begin to see that there is really no paradox there at all.

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Open your eyes and brain, both cerebral hemispheres not only the logical one, and maybe you will see and understand more! Don't forget, you have two arms, legs, eyes, ears, which you use day by day! Why don't use your both cerebral hemispheres? And more than that, if you have courage, try to decalcify pineal gland! Then to see you!


Decalcify pineal gland. Well.... that pretty  much says it all, doesn't it? I think you are in some other world, not this real one.

Where is your empirical support for ideas such as "decalcifying pineal gland"? Can you cite a single peer-reviewed study in a real journal that has anything to do with this idea? How do you decalcify _your_ pineal gland? By viewing frequencies? Meditation? Pardon me while I laugh in my coffee.

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These are not reproaches, are simple requests for taking actions and getting out of today's illusion!

They certainly sound like reproaches to me, and I note that you still haven't provided any answers: How does a "wrong" model manage to be so very successful, and how does YOUR model stand up? Where is a device that works according to your preferred world view, how does your preferred world view allow spacecraft to hit their marks, how does it allow precise ion-beam lithography, where is the prediction to 13 digits of precision made by your model?

I am afraid that you are the one with illusions that are blinding you to the very real "reality" that surrounds you. Any model that pretends to replace the standard one of Physics MUST be able to explain at least as much as the standard one does, and must also predict new things that the standard one does not, and these predictions must be supported by experimental data. Where is your experimental support? Mine is all around us, and in fact you are reading this on a prime example of just how good the standard concepts of physics really are -- your computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_tests_of_QED

For you to credibly claim that this model is wrong.... you need to provide a better one, or at least show some empirical support for your claim of "wrongness."  Certainly there are things that physics still does not understand. But any new model must include all of the old results and expand on them, just as Einstein's relativity model includes Newtonian dynamics within it, and expands upon it to extreme velocities and extreme gravitation.

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #143 on: January 14, 2013, 06:32:55 AM »
TinselKoala,
 
Our model is not successful, it is extremely primitive and lacking a basic understanding of source dynamics and universal interconnectivness.
The only thing we have succeded to do is turning our planet into a dump, where the contamination of virgin country and the exploitation of our natural resources can be seen everywhere on earth.
 
Our contemporary scientific model merely allow us to play around within our confines and implement those "wonders" without really understanding the basics.
You don't have to know the chemical structure of water so sail it.
 
Seen from this perspective the same goes for any of our wonders implemented by science without knowning anything about source dynamics.
Could it be that mankind’s experimental results and observations are accurate, but wrongly interpreted when explained?
As I have said before, what if our nicely defined forces like gravity and electromagnetism are not even forces at all?
 
What if the phenomenon we call electricity will be limited from a deeper understanding as long as we keep regarding it as moving particles?
 
What if even light itself is not a wave that travels from A to B?
The conclusion that light is something that moves from A to B is nothing more than a guess based upon the combination of source/receptor measurements and our brains suggestion that it must be something that travels. The recorded light speed measurments could just as well be the result of our unawareness of field differentials in a universe were everything relates to everything else through these field differential. We just don't know yet.
 
And that's what it is all about, we don't know.  Nobody on earth does.
 
Sadang is trying to convey to you that the observations made by contemporary science are accurate by wrongly interpreted, meaning that humanity is inevitably confined to the limitations created by our low altitude of understanding.
 
Along with our present limitations in understanding universe is our obvious lack of understanding the part our consciousness play.
 
What if the highest form of energy is consciousness?
What if consciousness is superior to physical reality, as quantum mechanics seems to indicate in relation to the observer and the observed?

What makes you so sure the world is even physical? Because you senses and measuring instruments tells you that? Think about that for a moment.
 
The present scientific model is merely a halting fumbling try to get things connected, and their electronic trinkets are really not making any of us able to even adress any question of depht.
 
 
 
As far as I am concerned, mankind has gone so far astray from a holistic world view that we will cause irreversable damage to our planet if we don't stop right now and change our course.
In order to change the course, no scientific endeavor will be enough. Our way of treating our fellow humans and fellow animals and fellow trees and so forth indicates severe global sicknes of the mind.
Mankind need to reconnect.

And as long as we observe reality in a non holistic way, we are confined within the narrowness of the frequency band of reality we presently focus upon, effectivly inhibiting us from getting access to a higher level of understanding.
 
A Science without deep love and respect permeating every move of its progress is bound to be subjected to wrong turns, due to the mere lack of connectivity.
 
We are all one, merely looking into this world through the eyes of our temporary interfaces, giving us the illusion of being separate.
 
Have you ever thanked grandmother earth for givíng you the opportunity to enjoy her splendor?

She is alive, you know.
 
Gwandau

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« Reply #144 on: January 14, 2013, 06:43:00 AM »
TinselKoala,

Your "very real reality" is not a reality at all. It is just a think, an ideea, o convention. Look deep inside the atom, beyound quarks, and see that there is nothing material. NOTHING!

Only our interpretation, our way of thinking based on our understandings (wrong ones) make the actual science with its laws and experimental proof, which give material characteristics to our world.

The actual "very real reality" is just an illusion, maintained by consciousness of billions of people who are educated (or blinded) alike. It is just a model which can be changed when 50%+1 will rethink the world and its intrinsec structure and dynamics on other way. Even if you accept or understand this!

You can't understand all these, because you never had the courage to lean on them, or were forced by system to don't pay attention. More than this, I am sure yoy were educated to not pay attention to all paradoxes existent everywhere in actual science, and even were learn how to confuse the interlocutor, directing him to convenient explanations, empty and without content.

I am not interested in per-reviewd and do not give a damn about it. It's just another form of control and manipulation of consciousness. I prefer to educate myself and discuss issues that interest me, with those who have an open mind, which have in their turn fundamental questions, not pettifogging that revolve around the bush when I ask uncomfortable questions.

I'm not a hypocrite not to see current science achievements, but as long as it is full of constant postulates and paradoxes, and has no consistency from top to bottom, from left to right and vice versa, then I allow myself to look for those connections that unify and make them consistent.

Argumentation brought to you to Faraday paradox is exactly what I said earlier, namely turning around the tail, and use of evasive answers. And I don't asked to explain or to prove me the Faraday paradox. But you explain it to youself, and then really lean on magnetism. That preferably before the Peregrini's magnetism, or one that you will not find explained in school manuals. In those pre-reviwed school manuals.

You say that I live in illusion. No, I am very involved in classical electromagnetism, professionally and socially. That's why I am looking for alternatives to what not thank me. And prefer to rethink the entire science from scratch, basing it on other bases, with principles and laws coherent and having universal validity.

As you followed the unabated ways of official science, I followed the ways of alternative science for many years. Two different worlds, with different premises and different ways of interpretation. My world goes to show the continuity of manifestations in a single principle, but instead you go to a shredding in parts increasingly smaller of the world and quantifying them. Which would be the reality? Yours, a cuantified world in an empty space, or mine a continuous world in an full space? Anybody knows?

Newton, Einstein... Ha! Newton with a terestrial gravity, Einstein with another cosmological gravity, totally different from each other. Newton with gravity like a force (of attraction or repulsion - depends on referential!!!), Einstein with gravity like a curvature of space (that empty space???).

Quantum electrodynamics... we come back to magnetism, to magnetic dipol theory or elementary particle... But even above I explained that there are no actually particles, but only properties that give characteristic of particle, properties relative to our interpretation, interpretation founded on understanding of phenomena, understanding founded in its turn on the way of interpretation, trough the five human senses and their tehnological extensions! Can you observe the closed circle in which we revolves in analysis and explanation of a phenomenon?

What is an electron inside? What is its internal structure and forces that act internally? The actual scientific dualism wave-particle is a shame! And also the entire electromagnetism evolved on this dualism! This dualism is just a convenient way (but not the right one) to expres the cjaracteristic observed in different experiments, all these experiments and their conceptual premises being designed in terms of empty space and in the case of closed systems. That is a great mistake!

I now you don't have the courage to think like me, or even to seek answers to current paradoxes and thrown constants, where the equation does not have solutions, everywhere in science. Perhaps you have to defend a blazon, a hierarchy, but whatever your reasons, I can say that you lie to yourself! And more severely forbids others the right to their own evolution.

Let's came back to Keshe's plasmatic magnetism, to stay in topic's theme, and try to understand it. It is more useful than any other theories from all that per-reviewd scientific books or articles.

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« Reply #145 on: January 14, 2013, 07:33:32 AM »
Don't mind TK, Sadang, (it's his highly restrictive diet of eucalyptus leaves :-\ ).

All is belief.....or very little of what we know is what really is.  We've always had those who would arrogantly try and bring that which is above, down here to be sorely mistreated.  We scratch and pull, grasping for the Greater.  Rather than first struggling to show ourselves approved to receive it humbly, graciously.

Faith is like throwing crumpled paper balls in the basket.  First, crumpling the paper at all shows that one is expecting at least something to happen.  Second, the act of throwing toward the goal shows that one seeks harmony with the end result.  Thirdly, who ever stops at one?  We have another sheet ready to go until we achieve that splendiferous splinter of harmony we so rarely seek and even more rarely, find.  That is the 'way of faith'.  Faith is a muscle, a process.  And only through much practice and growth can it be nourished to bring forth more than scattered fractions of it's perfect essence.  Ever notice how those who can pontificate the science of throwing baskets in agonizing detail are often the worst at actually doing it? 

We've all experienced those perfect moments, Designed to spark us to Greater things.  But for that spark to give rise to an Eternal flame, we must allow it to consume in us all that is fit for burning.  For if we cling to those elementary things, we choke the flame out, and it's back to only sparks for most (arrested development)....sparks all too easily ignored rather than assiduously engendered.

Matthew 17:20 Yeshua said to them, “Because of your unbelief, for amen, I say to you, that if you had faith like a grain of mustard seed, you may say to this mountain, 'Move from here', and it will move, and nothing will be difficult for you”.

Miracles abound for those who nurture and grow their faith from it's 'mustard seed like' state into a hearty tree with permanent roots deep into the unseen, and downtrodden...where the miracles happen.

The increase in answered prayers, and the decreased wait time has been astounding for many as of late!  Christ said that in the late hour, He will answer His children before they even call.....and it's getting close!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dpGWYZMDc


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« Reply #146 on: January 14, 2013, 10:19:16 AM »
The last interview of Mr. Keshe, from this year:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-SbdGLZz74&feature=youtu.be

This interview toward the end from around 1:17 minutes into it Mr. Keshe reveals a new Universal Peace Initiative for the whole world with all leaders will be announced to take place in either Tehran or in Palestine this January 21st, 2013!

It is because of the nations of great power, like America, China, Russia, etc., have now understood that the Keshe technologies make weapons of war obsolete. Mr. Keshe makes it clear that whenever he extended the USB drives to each countries representative he also extended his hand of peace, and of friendship.

America was extended that peaceful gesture as the hand of Iranian goodwill through Mehran Keshe and accepted as such by American authority. Mr. Keshe thanked President Obama and Ahmadinejad generously giving a time frame that will be seen directly after the second swearing in of Obama for the intended World Peace Initiative to take place as agreed by the nations involved on the January date mentioned above.

This is very exciting news and cannot be misconstrued or incorrectly interpreted by us as anything other than what it is.

World Peace, through parity of powers and arms as deterents of war will be in affect, all fighter jets, and missiles will become obsolete, as will all other conventional weaponry.

Iran will be seen soon in a few short weeks or months as the peaceful nation it is, and also as a leader of advanced space technologies. The capturing of two spy drones on Dec. 3rd, 2011, and on the anniversary date on Dec. 3rd, 2012 was a clear demonstration of the developed skills and capabilities of Iranian scientists with the Keshe technology. It is now clear to other powers of the world that war has become obsolete!

May we all share this news, and give thanks to Iran, and to Mehran Keshe for this gift of Peace to all of mankind.

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« Reply #147 on: January 14, 2013, 08:05:08 PM »
Talking about the "greater and deeper understanding" does not help if it fails in practice. And I don't see any gift from Keshe yet, as he failed to deliver anything of practical use since his appearance. Good luck dreaming on.

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« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2013, 09:07:13 PM »
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Talking about the "greater and deeper understanding" does not help if it fails in practice.

It is only after it fails in practice that greater and deeper understanding is usually revealed.

The key is to continue to practice....

It makes perfect.


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P.S. Even old men share young men's mistakes on occasion, if only to remind them that they are still capable of being young at heart.



happyfunball

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Re: Mehran T. Keshe Technologies
« Reply #149 on: January 15, 2013, 11:13:43 AM »
Keshe follows the same pattern as every other swindler. His twist is to release the bogus 'technology' to governments directly to lend the appearance of validity.