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REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« on: September 01, 2012, 03:56:40 AM »
The perpetual wheel driven by a permanent magnet The inventor The concept of this perpetual wheel has been patented in 1823.
That invention is fully described in book "Mechanical Appliances and Novelties of Construction" published in 1927 by Gardner D. Hiscox, Mechanical Engineer, and Norman W. Henle
Folks here is probably the simplest real perpetual motion wheel you can build with just a few parts . one strong neo magnet one 1 inch steel ball bearing and a couple of Aluminum  bike rims with the axles and bearings and some wood .   I did a quick and dirty test on this with a plastic hamster wheel and the damn thing works and displayed the effect  quite nice . . The ball rides inside or on a track and the magnet is placed on a block of wood at a certain height ,stable and the ball is attracted to the magnet while it is lifted inside the wheel making the wheel off balance and turns with gravity of the steel ball on one side of this wheel  . The ball must slip and spin so it can oscillate and grab the sided of your wheel . I am building two bike rims together to give me a track inside the two . .. you need a non magnetic wheel like aluminum and a steel ball one inch or greater to match your wheel .
New energy technology's are being exposed this year and this is a sure hit ..have a look and build away !!

http://energythic.com/view.php?node=283

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2012, 04:10:50 AM »
i am searching for some 16 inch aluminum bicycle rims front only . two to put together to form a solid rail . I am sure others with fabrication shops can put this together with some other non magnetic round rail wheel. with a center axle and bearings to mount so it can spin .
Will i be the first one to show one running on a stable magnet ?

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2012, 09:12:09 AM »
Hi gadget, I hope so, it's better than nobody testing it out.
If i had the materials i would try it also, though if your replication works out, many will try it and i will keep an eye out for bikes in garbage or garage sales.
Though a scaled down model could work just to show the principle, can't think off hand what might work as a rotatable rail.
Hope the experiments go well.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2012, 09:19:03 AM »
http://energythic.com/view.php?node=283

Al:

Above is the hyperlink to the video.  I have to admit it is impressive.  My only question is....why the big block held in his hand just to hold a magnet rod?  I guess I am a little doubtful...but....everything else looks just fine and I hope this really does work.  It would be very easy to make like you said.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »
Hi,
Clear video, big block is probably just a mean to get the magnet to the right height. My worry is that he helps it with his hand. More convincing would be when he would attached magnet to the base and THEN get it spinning.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2012, 10:44:11 AM »
I really hate to be the one raining on this parade, but this idea won't work, and here's why.  With the magnet in place, the wheel is really no longer overbalanced. Just as your hand can't push a door closed if someone is holding your hand in place, the ball can only perform work against the wheel when it is free to move down.  In this concept, the ball gets pulled into an equilibrium position where gravity and magnetism cancel each other out.  The video is deceptive because it doesn't run long enough to show the initial hand spin slowing down.  Build this device if you wish to learn (or don't believe me), but keep in mind there are more worthy avenues for free energy research (like LENR).  Best of luck to all, and thanks for your efforts towards a better world.

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2012, 05:25:23 PM »
suspicious noise at 57 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded

Nevertheless I wish you success in your quest

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2012, 06:01:44 PM »
suspicious noise at 57 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ&feature=player_embedded

Nevertheless I wish you success in your quest


yes its an air compressor, anyway, this video is old, if this really work all the peoples that tried this configuration in the past all fail... so why this one should work... I think its more an air compressor motor lol

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2012, 06:37:07 PM »
Yes that video is from the Visual education project here:  www.veproject1.org  where they show a lot of perpetual motion type devices that are all actually faked - not to fool people but rather to stimulate interest in kids for science.   Looking at the force vectors I don't think you will find anything that is going to rotate that wheel.  It's probably done with an internal motor or air and yes at 57 seconds there is a strong sound of air like someone pushed a little to hard on the air release button.   This video has been discussed before.  Sorry but IMO it's a FAIL. 

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Re: REAL WORKING MAGNET GRAVITY WHEEL !! It WORKS !!
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2012, 07:57:24 PM »
Thanks for input and it i am aware of newtons law and energy conservation and ever thing has to go back to zero and yadedada ... That a big power of suggestion and can throw off and discourage an experimenter . But See ...everything is explained away ,even God .
I Chose to Ignore mans rules and believe in a higher power and it gives me an inspiration with insight.
I have been called names ,shunned and said some of my little projects didn't work and i measured wrong and thats ok by me .
The hamster wheel experiment was crude and a cardboard stack with me holding a magnet with my hand is not a good test . I am a nervous person and i may subconsciously been shaking and my magnet probably wasn't perfectly still  . Thats ok by me . I realize that . so what to stop me from trying it out with metal rail wheel.. I suggest no build this but me . Let me decide how the magnet should be mounted on mine. heck i might mount it on springy metal instead of a solid block to give more outside force from the magnet .so with that here are some of the rules .and with all those and all the so called laws of nature that i know are flawed i will just do all this and either fail and learn or make it work . thanks guys for the luck wishes .so with that here are some of those rules .

 the weight(BALL) that gains energy falling on one side of a wheel{ SPINS} must lose the same amount of energy when being lifted up the other side.(IT DOSENT FALL IF THE RAIL IS MOVING UNDER IT and held in a  magnetic field from outside force)remains to be seen.
The steel ball attracted to a magnet gains energy, but to return it to its original position(WE DONT WANT IT TO RETURN TO ZERO WE WANT IT TO BE ON A MOVING INFINITY RAIL) and repeat the process, that same amount of energy must be done on it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2012, 08:41:34 PM »
derrika . thanks for the input . you see there are no bearings and just a shaft thru holes (squeek). What if we could build a  motor that ran on a magnet for our lifetime with just a hand spin?

powercat . Cool . i understand that .and when you move the magnet away from the steel ball the forces do what ?the ball weight becomes more and is allowed some of it's gravity back.at that very instant is where the wheel feels it and becomes unbalanced and due partially to friction partially to gravity and the fact that its a steel ball with no poles to rolls . I will build one and your right it will be a learning experience ..thanks man

Thanks pirate !! Your like me . We have been at this stuff so long we can spot a fake a mile away and thats why i now have a negative approach on  some of these inventions like yourself. Damn we are good :) I want you guys to get those Fountains running in a LOOP !! something i have always dreamed about since i was a kid taking a piece of hose and starting the flow with my mouth   to drain my pool... .take in consideration that water is a perpetual resource on our planet and rain comes to most of us all the time . a barrel to catch it .elavated. the Quest would be how to empty bottle c when it gets full.(float valve)
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2012, 09:00:17 PM »
Forgive me.... but you are like the children who, coming home from a Superman movie, put on capes and climb to their rooftops and leap off, expecting to fly.

Maybe you've got the cape on wrong, or maybe it's not quite the right color...... so keep trying, one day you'll fly just like Superman.

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2012, 09:06:44 PM »
Forgive me.... but you are like the children who, coming home from a Superman movie, put on capes and climb to their rooftops and leap off, expecting to fly.

Maybe you've got the cape on wrong, or maybe it's not quite the right color...... so keep trying, one day you'll fly just like Superman.


Thanks TinselKoala . you are my hero too :) your right . kids have more hope and insight .They dreamed and grew up and took those  silly thoughts like i want to fly to the moon . how silly that was.
 I had some pretty vivid dreams when i was young about flying under my own power  ,especially after watching  the flying nun:) i guess i wasn't the only one http://gizmodo.com/5894904/man-flies-like-a-bird-flapping-his-own-wings

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2012, 09:19:53 PM »

 is anyone else experiencing the ..quote bb code deleting it self  and moving when responding to posts. This is getting aggravating .

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 09:38:49 PM »
But as someone asked in the youtube channel: if it's compressed air, why are the clothes of this guy not fluttering?. It's kinda hard to believe that the compressed air stream only hits the wheel and not the clothes. But then again, the hissing sound is indeed suspicious...

@gadgetmall:nevertheless worth to try it out, despite the odds. I'd try it myself, if I had equipment :)

 

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