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TinselKoala

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #120 on: December 08, 2012, 01:43:27 AM »
you're funny alan. when you said I libeled you off this site you gave yourself away.
 It's funny what you say about engineering when you have no schooling. You mut be jealous. Get over it is all I can say.
 Unlike you, when I build a wheel, it will be one worth my while, not yours.
 
 good bye alan

IDIOT. Here, ONCE AGAIN, is the place where you libelled me off-site: On my YouTube channel.

I "mut" be jealous? You must be nutso. Build away-- when you are feeling better of course -- , but STFU about me, you fool.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #121 on: December 08, 2012, 01:57:24 AM »
 In reality alan, I am probably the only person in this forum or besslerwheel that has the necessary skills to build it and that is why I am the person who is spending the money to do it. That's reality.
 Besides, you and your friends show how much my dad knew that you and your friends have no clue about.
 by tbe way, notice you got mrwayne's thread locked. while he spent money and people did what they could, you had nothing worth while to say, as usual.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #122 on: December 08, 2012, 02:29:42 AM »
  alan,
 one small thing you are over looking is that tnis is the holidays.
 Myself, I'll be busy until after Christmas.
 I think I am going to relax and enjoy the holidays. Only a fool would miss tbe opportunity.
 @All, hope you guys have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

  Jim/Bessler2011 (youtube)

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #123 on: December 08, 2012, 02:57:22 AM »
Captain Oblivious:

It is clear you will continue to mess up my topic with your delusions.  I have asked you as nice as I can to knock it off.

Besides the dates that you keep trying to change about "your invention" TK's documented evidence clearly says you are lying and have been all of the time.  Yet, you ignore the facts.

This fellow Alan, you claimed used to be your business partner so, I would assume you would know what he looks like and sounds like.  Now follow me here if you can....you have seen TK's videos (We know this since you had libeled him in the comments section of one of them) can you not tell from TK's voice that he is not this Alan fellow?  Is Alan skilled in electronics research and does he have excellent O'scope skills too?  Well, TK does and I would assume Alan does not.  I would also assume that you could tell the difference between TK's voice and Alan's on all of the videos.

YET, you choose to ignore these facts as well and still try to pretend that TK is Alan.  You also try to pretend that the idea you posted that TK had used a long time before your post was somehow stolen by TK.  Once again, ignoring facts.

You were banned from here many times and have to come back under an assumed name, yet you accuse me of using one? (Duh!)  You were banned from the Bessler wheel site for doing this same crap....claiming you had the perfect device and you were going to build it any day now....well that was years ago so....what happened?  You also claimed other's ideas as your own.  You were NOT banned for having the secret, you were banned for being an idiot like you are doing here.

You claim to be an engineer but yet do not have even the basic understanding of engineering or the English language which you clearly demonstrate with every post that you make. (Mr. cubic inches of surface area)

So, instead of continuing to show us how ignorant you are, go build something, anything and quit screwing up my topic.  Try to build a simple Heron's fountain...the instructions are on my video.  You might be able to do this if you really try.  Hopefully it will take you 6 months to do and meanwhile, you will leave my topic alone.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2012, 03:21:40 AM »
Just a thoughtful reminder...

Great people talk about ideas,
average people talk about things and
small people talk about other people.
BOTH SIDES OF THIS, PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF! THIS IS ABOUT THE IDEA OF HERON'S FOUNTAIN WHICH I DID FIND VERY INTERESTING... VERY. Just been waiting for the punch line which is this: Is it or is it not provably perpetual?

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #125 on: December 08, 2012, 04:03:41 AM »
  :-)

@casman, nothing personal but all alan and bill knows is ns. when I was being treated for cancer, it was the same story.
alan thinks he should be given any invention because he thinks smart people should support people who are to lazy to learn.
added; Cas, read the thread Modified Heron's Fountain.
 u will see tk saying nothing new can be learned and then asks me to explain it then says it is his idea. not sure how bill can ignore his friends posts. and in another thread this is al
 alan did and bill always defends him.
 I have the threads saved in case they try to steal my idea. I think u will get along with them just fine.
got me better things to do.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #126 on: December 08, 2012, 04:24:14 AM »
tk,
build Bessler's wbeel since you think it is so easy and Bill, according to the USPTO, since I am the person who described in detail how it migbt be made perpetual makes me the invento. If I wish to work in one inch depths, as the inventor that is my perogative.
 In engineering terms it could be considered a base line to establish potential or force.
 I think you and your friend missed that part of it but mass/volume is relative to potential. A little something I learned in school, after all, engineering is a discipline.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #127 on: December 08, 2012, 05:27:07 AM »
tk,
build Bessler's wbeel since you think it is so easy and Bill, according to the USPTO, since I am the person who described in detail how it migbt be made perpetual makes me the invento. If I wish to work in one inch depths, as the inventor that is my perogative.
 In engineering terms it could be considered a base line to establish potential or force.
 I think you and your friend missed that part of it but mass/volume is relative to potential. A little something I learned in school, after all, engineering is a discipline.

did you recently understand that bessler's wheel under your own understanding. it is impossible?

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« Reply #128 on: December 08, 2012, 09:42:53 AM »
tk,
build Bessler's wbeel since you think it is so easy and Bill, according to the USPTO, since I am the person who described in detail how it migbt be made perpetual makes me the invento. If I wish to work in one inch depths, as the inventor that is my perogative.
 In engineering terms it could be considered a base line to establish potential or force.
 I think you and your friend missed that part of it but mass/volume is relative to potential. A little something I learned in school, after all, engineering is a discipline.

So Jimbo, you are now the inventor of Heron's fountain?  Great.  How is this possible?  you have not even built one that works and, many others have done so before your time but yet, you still claim this as your idea?  Astounding.  try building one that works first, and then you can argue if you invented it or not.  I think even you could build one in maybe 6 months or so.  3rd graders can do it so i believe you have a good shot at doing it also.

Bill

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« Reply #129 on: December 08, 2012, 10:39:31 AM »
  :-)

@casman, nothing personal but all alan and bill knows is ns. when I was being treated for cancer, it was the same story.
alan thinks he should be given any invention because he thinks smart people should support people who are to lazy to learn.
added; Cas, read the thread Modified Heron's Fountain.
 u will see tk saying nothing new can be learned and then asks me to explain it then says it is his idea. not sure how bill can ignore his friends posts. and in another thread this is al
 alan did and bill always defends him.
 I have the threads saved in case they try to steal my idea. I think u will get along with them just fine.
got me better things to do.

Here again you somehow claim that heron's Fountain is your invention?  This is so laughable Jimbo.  And you wonder why I call you Captain Oblivious.  It is simply because you are oblivious to the facts, and to history.  This device has been around for thousands of years.  You have not even built one working replication yet, you claim you invented it???

All I can say is Holy Crap!

Where are your schematics?  Where is your video of a working device?  Oh, I see, Alan won't let you post them.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #130 on: December 08, 2012, 08:42:52 PM »
did you recently understand that bessler's wheel under your own understanding. it is impossible?

  onthecuttingedge2005,
 I've been working on this idea for a number of years. The basic principle took me about 6 months to understand it had potential.
It's not an easy build but do have a place to build it. I won't be able to start on it until after Christmas but do believe it is what Bessler knew so it would be nothing original on my part except maybe for my interpretation of his work.
 I am aware that perpetual motion is considered impossible and that it should not work according to what is currently understood. If it does work, then Bessler had realized an application that he kept secret.
 One reason why I believe he did this is because of his belief in Jesus. One of his quotes is "don't you understand ?" and it possibly has 2 meanings. The first is that his wheel worked, believe it.
 the other might be that he believed in Jesus. This could be why he used religious symbols in his drawings and quoted the Bible as much as he did, to link his work and his beliefs.
 Some of the religious symbolism in his drawings would be pendulums that resemble crosses and having 3 weights which could be for the trinity or the 3 spikes that were drove into Jesus' body.
 One thing people have missed on is why he called his wheel Orffyreus. It is because Hermes invented the lyre but Orpheus made it sing. His wheel it seems at some point he decided he would let someone else make it known and when they talked about it, they would be making music just as Orpheus did with Hermes lyre.
 Until then, I hope you are able to enjoy the Holidays   :D
 
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edited to add; Bessler does show the symbol commonly associated with Freemasons in some of his drawings and as such may have been one himself.
 
edited to change some of the explanations

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« Reply #131 on: December 09, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »
  @All,
 tk has known that my colon has attachec itself to my abdominal wall and other internal organs as a result of my having had complications from surgery.
 Whe Stefan allows him to mock the seriuosness of my situation is not acceptable.
 Bessler's wheel is something I could probably have been built by now if Stefan did not support his efforts in an attempt to take credit for my work.
 I do have other concerns besides this build and it would be difficult for me to either profit or benefit in some way from my work under the conditions that have been impsed on me by the management of this forum.
 When I am ready, I will build a wheel but first I need to gain some wood working experiene and equip a wood shop that will allow me to demonstrate some of my skills.
 It would have been nice to have worked with other people on this but Alan Bauldree believes tbat if he can't have it then he would must as soon kill it.

added; could be that alan like a lot of ignorant Americans can't stand to see somebody else have something because my hearing loss is real and so is the discrimination I have had to tolerate.
 But as Alan has shown, he only cares about himself.

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« Reply #132 on: December 10, 2012, 02:25:35 AM »
  @All,
 If I end up being successful, I could thank my sister for showing me something. She did not have an ugly mouth and was not demanding.
 She published her own Christian newspaper while dealing with Crohn's disease. She did not have it very good, she died at 47 because of how severe her condition was.
 Myself, I will take care of my personal responzibilities first which inlude my car and my health. I  need to be able to get to work and do my job before I worry about anything else.
 btw, with Crohn's disease, you can have almost all of your intestines removed. It could be having seen what my sister went through that has kept me going.
 

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #133 on: December 10, 2012, 02:26:19 AM »
  @All,
 tk has known that my colon has attachec itself to my abdominal wall and other internal organs as a result of my having had complications from surgery.
 Whe Stefan allows him to mock the seriuosness of my situation is not acceptable.
 Bessler's wheel is something I could probably have been built by now if Stefan did not support his efforts in an attempt to take credit for my work.
 I do have other concerns besides this build and it would be difficult for me to either profit or benefit in some way from my work under the conditions that have been impsed on me by the management of this forum.
 When I am ready, I will build a wheel but first I need to gain some wood working experiene and equip a wood shop that will allow me to demonstrate some of my skills.
 It would have been nice to have worked with other people on this but Alan Bauldree believes tbat if he can't have it then he would must as soon kill it.

added; could be that alan like a lot of ignorant Americans can't stand to see somebody else have something because my hearing loss is real and so is the discrimination I have had to tolerate.
 But as Alan has shown, he only cares about himself.

Jimbo AKA Captain Oblivious:

Man, what is wrong with you?  You still think TK is someone named Alan?  Watch TK's videos, listen to his voice, look at the electronics equipment, etc and you will see that TK is TK.

Please whine about your life on one of the hundreds of topics that you started and get off of this one as it is obvious that you have nothing to contribute.  You can't even build a simple fountain and yet you claim everyone stole your device?  The schematic is on my video along with the link...all you need are 2 empty 16 oz drink bottles and some straws and a little glue.  But, for some reason, you can't build one so you have to trash this topic with your crap.  I am tired of it.

Please seek additional medication and stay off this topic which deals with things you have proven you know nothing about.

Bill

PS  If you are going to continue to trash the USA, I suggest you go back to whatever shit hole country you are from and shut up about it.  America will be better off.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #134 on: December 10, 2012, 05:06:40 AM »
Jimbo AKA Captain Oblivious:

Man, what is wrong with you?  You still think TK is someone named Alan?  Watch TK's videos, listen to his voice, look at the electronics equipment, etc and you will see that TK is TK.

Please whine about your life on one of the hundreds of topics that you started and get off of this one as it is obvious that you have nothing to contribute.  You can't even build a simple fountain and yet you claim everyone stole your device?  The schematic is on my video along with the link...all you need are 2 empty 16 oz drink bottles and some straws and a little glue.  But, for some reason, you can't build one so you have to trash this topic with your crap.  I am tired of it.

Please seek additional medication and stay off this topic which deals with things you have proven you know nothing about.

Bill

PS  If you are going to continue to trash the USA, I suggest you go back to whatever shit hole country you are from and shut up about it.  America will be better off.

I second that PS pirate.