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Pirate88179

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2012, 08:09:11 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFjn3pSdoo

I finally got the video to upload.  I will make a better one at a later date but, you can get the idea from this one.


Here is the schematic I based my device on:

Al:

It is great to be back with you and the old gang again.  God only knows what we might do this time, ha ha.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2012, 08:39:21 PM »
Man, I love the looks of that fluorescent paint in there. A couple UV LEDs will really jazz that fountain up! 

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2012, 08:48:35 PM »
TK:

Thanks.  I found 2 of my uv leds and I also have a 60 watt edison black light bulb.  I will play around with them and see what kind of effects I can get.  If it is anything worth seeing, I will make a short vid of it.

Bill

PS  That is about a shot glass worth of the water based paint mixed in with  about 20 oz of water so, it does not glow as good as 100% paint but it also does not change the viscosity either.  It might be interesting to try to run it on 100% paint which is pretty thick but flows easily.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2012, 09:48:11 PM »
Great Project guys . Progress thru replication . Who knows what you might see that wasn't discovered when it was build in the beginning . ;; I can float valves and more stages and all kinds of cool things . Even air battery powered  dc pump to aid in the swap ..just a dream .

Al

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2012, 12:04:11 AM »
Al:

I agree with you.  What about using ferro fluid as the liquid?  I read up on it and it is called " liquid magnets".  So, now could we wrap all of the tubing with copper wire (coils) and generate anything from this I wonder?  Would Lentz place too much drag and stop the flow?  Hmmmm......just thinking out loud here.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2012, 12:08:05 AM »
TK:

Please feel free to post links to your videos here on the work you have been doing.  With your permission, I will do it but, I think the folks need to see what you have done thus far.  I really like the ping-pong ball container.....some wild thinking there.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2012, 01:15:16 AM »
Thanks Bill!

Here's the "extended version" with the pingpong ball chamber. It's a spacer, really, from the ideas given by Conradelektro and the wiki pages, and my own realisation that the fountain depends on the difference in levels between source and receiver reservoirs. The easiest way for me to add a spacer was just to put another jar in the stack, and have it function as an extended air conduit. The pingpong balls are there to reduce the active air volume in the extra vent space, so that it's not as "springy". The external plumbing of this version might make the operation clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4

I think I'll put another spacer in the stack, just to see how high it will actually pump.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2012, 01:35:52 AM »
TK:

Thanks.  Yes, I understand taking up the air volume but, those balls are somewhat pressurized and therefore...maybe...will compress just a little and then feed the energy back the same amount...you know?  Well, maybe I should not say they are pressurized but, they are sealed spheres and when you squeeze them, they squeeze back.

Does this make any sense?  This is why I thought your choice of the balls was brilliant.  I'll bet if you used metal spheres to take up the space, you would lose something there.....just thinking.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2012, 02:02:50 AM »
Rename Tk`s latest video "The Pickled Egg Fountain"  :)

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2012, 03:45:08 AM »
Rename Tk`s latest video "The Pickled Egg Fountain"  :)

Good name...I like it.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2012, 08:07:58 AM »
Well, actually I was thinking that the ppballs were less compressible than the same volume of unshelled air... essentially solid objects at the small pressure changes involved. So I figured that they would help by reducing the energy storage in springiness and just allow more direct transfer of the pressure from the bottom bottle to the water in the top bottle.
I was hoping that they would just be simple displacers and I wanted to avoid energy storage in compressed air. But actually I haven't done a rigorous comparison with and without the balls. Easy enough to do, I'll probably set up and test later tonight or tomorrow morning. Since it's pretty clear that I blew my chances at winning the Self-Powered TableTop Water Pump challenge..... ho ho ho..... there's not much else going on.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2012, 10:01:58 AM »
TK:

Well, I was looking at my replication and was thinking that since I used those plastic bottles, they can hold some pressure as well as a vacuum.  I am thinking that this helps somewhat in this process.  I read that Heron used copper vessels for his device so, we might have a slight advantage here with our replications.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2012, 03:29:56 PM »
..... ho ho ho..... there's not much else going on.

...not as far as the Buddah is concerned.
 
 

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2012, 01:52:10 AM »
c'mon guys, there's gotta b mor.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2012, 04:43:37 PM »
Well, I was gonna wait until Bill posted his video of his fountain, but after that last set of drawings from johnny874 I feel rather obligated to point out that I published the video below on YouTube on August 25th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU

 yep and you've recently posted this video calling it the Folger's instant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYltvNPU0U
 why not just call it johnny874 ? is it because of all of your attacks on me ?