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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2012, 02:22:20 AM »
tk,
 y not u and bill post an idea and discuss it with other people, your own original mechanical idea. if u 2 cant, then I guess u dont support overunity using gravity.

Whether or not I post and discuss my own original mechanical ideas is irrelevant to whether or not I "support overunity using gravity".   So you are wrong twice in two sentences, because I do post plenty of my own work, unlike you, Jimpbo, and I don't support OU using gravity _anyway_.

Yes, you are a fraud, Jimpbo, because you talk and talk and talk about what you are _going_ to do, but all you've managed actually to do is to post flame after flame, insult and lie, and two tiny videos showing your failed explanations of something you saw in MY VIDEO which was published ten days before your silly misleading pressurised dual chamber video.

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edited to add; Heron's fountain is your invention ? Glad to know that.


More lies, Jimpbo?  Keep digging. Here you are implying that I said Heron's Fountain is "my invention". Nowhere ever have I said or implied that Heron's Fountain is "my invention". I even give proper credit to MrWayne for the "zed" idea. My application of the Zed using multiple chambers to Heron's fountain IS my idea, though, and the dates of the videos and the dates of your comments prove that I could not have "ripped you off" as your libellous claim goes.

You really need to stop all these lies and misrepresentations, Jimbo, or your Kentucky judge is gonna really throw the book at you. Every single lie you tell about me is a separate count, you know.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2012, 02:22:20 AM »

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #91 on: September 15, 2012, 02:32:07 AM »

  Really.
 by the way Bill, would you like me to get my old phone records to PROVE I have talked to you and AB Hammer (Alan Bauldree) on the phone ?
Phone records are always saved wouldn't you know.
 It wouldn't be worth the effort though to prove you wrong. As for stefan, it doesn't matter to me if he doesn't believe overunity isn't possible, that's the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. still, if he finds the possibilty interesting of MAYBE, I'm okay with that.
 But I think anyone can see how unrelenting you are because you have something to prove.
 As for getting banned, I'm not the one who would lose Bill, it would be this forum because my work would not be allowed in here.
Of course, when Stefan bans me, that is something he will need to believe in, won't he ? Just as AB Hammer and tinselkoala do not believe I should be allowed to work on idea's in this forum. And that IS why working openly is problematic.
 
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So now I have talked to you on the phone?  Are you serious?  Is this where you claim I have slandered you?  I would love to see these records Jim.  Produce them.  You can't?  Why?  Oh, another lie...I get it.  Poor Bessler probably turns over in his grave every time you mention his name.  Did you speak to him on the phone also?

Holy crap!

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2012, 03:59:49 AM »
So now I have talked to you on the phone?  Are you serious?  Is this where you claim I have slandered you?  I would love to see these records Jim.  Produce them.  You can't?  Why?  Oh, another lie...I get it.  Poor Bessler probably turns over in his grave every time you mention his name.  Did you speak to him on the phone also?

Holy crap!

Bill
Greetings Bill
 

 Back in the older days when we first talked. Is the time Jim Lindguard is  talking about. Now days I find it more interesting talking to a rock instead of Jim. At least I don't have to keep an eye on the rock.  LOL
 

P.S. some people can't tell the difference between a delusion and the truth.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2012, 03:59:49 AM »
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #93 on: October 17, 2012, 09:09:02 PM »
  here's a drawing of my version of Herons Fountain.
 Because the fill tube has a larger diameter, it can over fill a reservoir beneath it into another reservoir where the discharge tube is located. This barrier would prevent the 2 static heads from balancing themselves which they would do.
 If anyone bothers to build Heron's fountain, you'll find out that the discharge tube as in the video is a smaller static head. And it's the mass of the static head that generates the air pressure for pumping out the reservoir where the outlet tube is located.
 The top view is looking straight down at it. should give everyone a decent idea of how a simple pmm might be built.

   @All,
 When I posted this idea, except for tinselkoala posting a link to his video, no comments were made.
Nobody said this was their idea and that they had thought of it.
 After 2 builds demonstrating that it has potential, then it became soemone else's idea. Why ?
 Links to the 2 videos which were ignored by anyone claiming this is their idea. The links were posted in the thread Modified heron's Fountain.
the first video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF6lmb1oLEo
the second video and notice the air leak (bubbles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7V-cH7ytQI
 
 by the way all, as this is impossible, so to is Bessler's wheel. Actually, they're not but and understanding of engineering is necessary.
 
 And thanks to Stefan Hartmann for allowing me to defend myself against my accusers, it is very much appreciated.
If anyone reads what I posted, if anyone wished to try it. Nobody did. I was willing to work with pirate88719, tinselkoala and magluvin but unfortunately I don't know anything they care to hear about. BTW, gadgetmall is afreindly with them as well.
 Still, they can show where in my post or any post after that where they claimed that what I posted was their design. This is something the thread will show they ignored.
 
edited to correct spelling
 
edited to add;
 what makes my concept or design different is that it considers perpetuallity. With the first video, if the tall, narrow tube were cut off beneath the water line, then the water could flow to the shorter, larger diameter tube which might have allowed for a conitinuous flow.
 With the second video, it was mostly to confirm that the 2 pressure heads would act independently of each other with the shorter, larger diameter tube performing the work.
 If you notice one thing I did not do that Heron did was that I did not have water in the area the water was to be pumped from. I only filled the shorter, larger diameter tube. So with the first video, all water flowed through only one tube and rose to a height higher than the water level of the tube pumping it.
 If I had water in the area to be pumped, then less air would have been displaced allowing for a greater internal air presure and most liekly more water being pumped with less water being inserted into the Heron's Fountain type device.
 That's engineering folks  ;) 
 

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #94 on: October 17, 2012, 09:39:27 PM »
You left something out of your "explanation" there, Johnny Jimpbo.

The two videos that Jimpbo Johnny has linked to above were posted to You Tube on SEPTEMBER 6 and SEPTEMBER 4.


My videos showing my use of the multiple internal chambers were published on YouTube  on AUGUST 24 and AUGUST 25.

That is right.... ELEVEN FULL DAYS, a week and a half AFTER I published my videos, Johnny Jimpbo comes up with his "idea".


Not only that, but Jimpbo's videos don't even show what he thinks they show at all.

Where is Jimpbo's perpetual Heron's Fountain? In his dreams only. People -- and his illnesses -- are preventing him from building it.


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Re: Heron's Fountain
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2012, 02:24:34 AM »
  what I posted would work with a square box. But for 2 people who claim to know engineering don't seem to be able to discuss.
 And what needs to be remembered is that when I posted my idea, it was basically ignored.
 This would make any reasonable person wonder.
 And AB Hammer, despite yor 26 years of working with your hands, I haven't seen where you've taken the time to build a wheel yet, sorry but discs aren't wheels. Especially when they're only about 10 inches in diameter.
 As for Bessler, it's been said that he built many wheels but only 4 were made known.
 Apparently his wheels are not so easy to build.

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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2012, 02:59:24 AM »
  what I posted would work with a square box. But for 2 people who claim to know engineering don't seem to be able to discuss.
 And what needs to be remembered is that when I posted my idea, it was basically ignored.
 This would make any reasonable person wonder.
 And AB Hammer, despite yor 26 years of working with your hands, I haven't seen where you've taken the time to build a wheel yet, sorry but discs aren't wheels. Especially when they're only about 10 inches in diameter.
 As for Bessler, it's been said that he built many wheels but only 4 were made known.
 Apparently his wheels are not so easy to build.
Bessler didn't show just anybody the inside of his wheels either. I am holding back until the election is done.
Alan
PS I build wheels as large as needed, and my 3 to 4 feet are common.  ;)

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Re: Heron's Fountain
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2012, 03:15:20 AM »
Johnny "Captain Oblivious" Jimbo:

Please do not pollute this topic with more of your lies and delusions.  I almost spat out my drink when I read your post above where it says "edited for spelling".  HA!  Well Jimbo, you missed quite a few errors there bud.  Perhaps you should read a book on the English language and then edit once again?  Then please read at least one engineering book and after that, please read a self-help book on how to stop compulsive lying.

Then maybe you can post here.  Until then....post your crap in your own topics of which you have maybe 1,000 already....and nothing built yet. (sigh)

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2012, 03:19:38 AM »
Hai All,

I just found this thread today, last year I built this fountain and working.
Attached is my sketch.
And hereunder is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57h2HMJcieg

Regards
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2012, 04:23:04 AM »
It is possible to put this fountai as a usable continuous pump. Just add 2 check valve and one 3-way valve.
Here is my animation on this concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cHHD2eSRXU

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2012, 02:18:06 PM »
  uh ,  bill, have built some of what I posted.
have sent links to Stefan. and wben I started a thread to discuss the design I posted which you put me on ignore form, couldn't get your friend tinselkoala to leave me alone.
 just as the time I spent working on Bessler's wheel, was only harassed by ab hammer. I find it ineresting how you have no problem with them harassing me. yet if I ask them to discuss engineering, you'll tell me to be nice to them.
 I guess someone who has no schooling in enbineering would be bothered by somebody who has.

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« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2012, 01:56:27 AM »
   
 

I guess someone who has no schooling in enbineering would be bothered by somebody who has.


I know of no one who has schooling in enbineering.  I don't even know what that word is.

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« Reply #102 on: December 03, 2012, 03:58:06 PM »
This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill

Instructions I used are here: http://blog.makezine.com/2008/06/08/build-herons-fountain-1/  I modified a few things to fit the materials I had laying about.

 Just wondering, is the attached picture your design ? They seem to be the same thing except you didn't leave space between the different sections so people could see how they work independently.
 Of course, this episode of Numb3rs aired Nov. 16th, 2007. The only reason I mention this is the numerous times you and tinselkoala claimed I stole your ideas.
 I would have to believe an idea shown on syndicated television is not your original idea nor tinselkoal's as the 2 of you have claimed.
 
season 4 or no. 69
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Numb3rs_episodes
a link to the program on youtube, around the 10 minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWozC8XM2Do
 

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #103 on: December 03, 2012, 05:12:45 PM »
Still lying about this, I see, Jimpbo.
Where did I claim that you stole my ideas? YOU claimed that I stole YOURS, and I pointed out that the timeline proves that was impossible, and I pointed out that the timeline of the events and postings allowed YOU to see my and Bill's work and you _could have_ used those ideas, whereas I _could not_ have used your LATER posted ideas. Get your facts straight, you liar.
And the extra chamber and plumbing that I used are nowhere to be found in the videos you linked above; they are an idea I developed from testing Mister Wayne's claims. Nothing to do with YOU, or your videos, or even the traditional Heron's Fountain. And both Bill and I gave full credit for the original design from Make magazine that we used in our initial constructions. Once again, as is typical for you, you lie and distort the facts for no reason other than trolling. I have told you that everytime you mention me or my initials I will remind you and everyone else what a liar you are.


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« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2012, 10:12:45 PM »
Still lying about this, I see, Jimpbo.
Where did I claim that you stole my ideas? YOU claimed that I stole YOURS, and I pointed out that the timeline proves that was impossible, and I pointed out that the timeline of the events and postings allowed YOU to see my and Bill's work and you _could have_ used those ideas, whereas I _could not_ have used your LATER posted ideas. Get your facts straight, you liar.
And the extra chamber and plumbing that I used are nowhere to be found in the videos you linked above; they are an idea I developed from testing Mister Wayne's claims. Nothing to do with YOU, or your videos, or even the traditional Heron's Fountain. And both Bill and I gave full credit for the original design from Make magazine that we used in our initial constructions. Once again, as is typical for you, you lie and distort the facts for no reason other than trolling. I have told you that everytime you mention me or my initials I will remind you and everyone else what a liar you are.

   Alan,
 Watch episode numer 69 of Numb3rs. You claim that is your idea that I am stealing from. 2007 I think is before 2012.
Only you would miss that. Why I believe you are ab hammer. only he would repeat he originated an idea when it has been shown on television years earlier. you my friend are a fraud and a liar.
 
edited to state the obvious Alan, how do you think I know about Numb3rs having YOUR Heron's fountain on their show ?
I must have seen it on television. Of course, you have always attacked me saying anyone that uses math can't be credible. and Numb3rs uses what as a part of it's plot ? Math. Still, doubt you will get it, after all, this forum is all you have so I will let you have it.
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