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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2012, 03:49:13 AM »
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2012, 03:49:13 AM »

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #151 on: December 12, 2012, 03:59:04 AM »
 pirate88719,
 yourself and tinselkoala mame an unusual claim. Only a real person can be an inventor. As such, you and tinselkoala have no ability to claim that you are inventors.
 SORRY !

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2012, 06:33:12 AM »
pirate88719,
 yourself and tinselkoala mame an unusual claim. Only a real person can be an inventor. As such, you and tinselkoala have no ability to claim that you are inventors.
 SORRY !

Jim

JohnnyDoLittle (or nothing):

Yes, you are sorry, I agree.  So, your name is really Johnny874 then?  You are using your real name here?  What BS.  So, I should look for patents under the name Johnny874?  You are so full of crap even you can't keep up with it.  So now you are claiming that Alan is Nikola Tesla?  What sort of drugs are you on over there?

Once again, please, please, learn English and also learn how to type and spell.  Also, I suggest you read and learn about gravity, engineering and please try to pick up some social skills.

Bill

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« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2012, 06:33:12 AM »
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #153 on: December 12, 2012, 06:03:05 PM »
JohnnyDoLittle (or nothing):

Yes, you are sorry, I agree.  So, your name is really Johnny874 then?  You are using your real name here?  What BS.  So, I should look for patents under the name Johnny874?  You are so full of crap even you can't keep up with it.  So now you are claiming that Alan is Nikola Tesla?  What sort of drugs are you on over there?

Once again, please, please, learn English and also learn how to type and spell.  Also, I suggest you read and learn about gravity, engineering and please try to pick up some social skills.

Bill

  Unlike you, I have posted my real name and where I live. This means that anyone who can access my account does not have right to idea's that I have posted.
 Besides, I am a week and a half away from having a shop again. I have nothing to do but to enjoy what it is that I have been waiting for. In the mean time, nothing has changed for you and alan. It shows who the person is that has taken time to elarn something while posting in forums. Of course, with my background in engineering and manufacturing, it gave me a good base to build upon.
 And Bill, in the first post, I announce my citizenship, city of residency and legal given name. Of course, something like the 4th or 5th post is yours so you have known that this information has been posted.
 But as I mentioned, there has been no such diclosure by you or your friend. Your rants are merely because you are jealous just like your friend is. Your insults do not take away from what I have and am about to do. And afterwards if my build is successful as I believe it will be, you and your friend can go hide somewhere because you are anonymous posters.
 
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@All, the link where in the first some personal information is given identifying who I am.
http://www.overunity.com/12597/my-invention/

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #154 on: December 12, 2012, 07:40:29 PM »
  Let me get this straight, in the thread "why working openly is a bad idea", you stated many times I owe you an apology for stealing your idea and this after you post the way I plumb it. Not sure, but as usual you do sound like ab hammer but may be a jerk like him.
 Your tolerances are not possible unless maybe you're a scientists working with molecules. Besides, any machinist I've known who has honed something to a tight tolerate says they honed it, not machined it. For some reason machinists like to say what process they use in doing something. Doubt you machined it. After all, you say you work to such precision then turn around and do a piece of crap Heron's Fountain which would have Heron rolling over in his grave.
 It seems idiots usually have nothing to say except prove it to me or make impossible statements.
 I'm not worried, you have nothing on me, I DID go to school and get good experience working the jobs I had.
 But as you said, I am to prove to you because you have a big ego and no . If you did, you might be wanting to impress a woman and say hi to the guys in here instead of trying o impress them.
 Do have to wonder though why the people in here would have a problem with my being affected by my medical issues and wanting to do something so I can speak out against discrimination against the hearing impaired. For Americans in here, they would actually be considered anti-American for thinking a disabled Vet does not have the same right to a life as they do. Simple fact and is reality.
 By the way tk, everyone knows who I am but no one knows who you are and ab hammer is called steel teddy bear by his wife and tinselkoala is another way of saying the same thing. Remember her posts in besslerwheel where she called you that in her thread by lady silver rose. steel teddy bear, tinselkoala, same name, kind of why I think it is you Alan Bauldree. If not, not my problem.    :o 8)

edited to add; your little motor isn't overunity but is the original steam engine and like Heron's Fountain, something that is tried and true. You would sound more credible if you would include some of the history surrounding what you discuss but don't because it would come out as cut and paste, ignorance does tend to show itself given time. Bye bye little boy.
 

edited to add; here is a link to where some people are trying to discuss something while tinselkoala like ab hammer are discussing themselves. they might be different people but they have the same personalities.
http://www.overunity.com/8825/pulsed-dc-transformer-with-embedded-magnets/msg270972/#msg270972

 Kind of how I know I am in the wrong place.

Heron invented it and he probably spent his entire life trying to figure out 'why' it wouldn't work. you are doing the same.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2012, 02:49:52 AM »
  @onthecuttingedge,
 Nothing personal but because of my hearing loss, I have had time to study math and engineering that other people haven't had.
 Once I have my shop set up, I may build my design using wood and plexiglass. If it doesn't work, then I'll have myself a custom fish aquarium. Either way, I'll have something to show for my efforts.
 Still, I will be looking forward to being able to doing some building, I actually enjoy working on things.

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2012, 03:14:52 AM »
  @onthecuttingedge,
 Nothing personal but because of my hearing loss, I have had time to study math and engineering that other people haven't had.
 Once I have my shop set up, I may build my design using wood and plexiglass. If it doesn't work, then I'll have myself a custom fish aquarium. Either way, I'll have something to show for my efforts.
 Still, I will be looking forward to being able to doing some building, I actually enjoy working on things.

  Johnny874/yt ~ bessler2011

You have never built anything before so, why should we think you are going to this time?  You have all of these sorry excuses why you can't build anything and yet you try to steal other people's ideas when they do build something.  You have been saying for over 4 years now that any day now, you are going to build something.  You lie all of the time about everything else Jimbo, so, I think you are not telling the truth again.

Try building a simple Heron's fountain that works first.  You do not need a shop to do that, ha ha ,but then again, maybe you do.  Just some bottles, some glue and some tubes.  You won't even have to learn how to use power tools to do this.

But yet, you can't even build one of these.  So sad really.

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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2012, 09:37:35 AM »
Heron invented it and he probably spent his entire life trying to figure out 'why' it wouldn't work. you are doing the same.

you didn't get it did you? don't waste your time on this earth on Heron's fountain. if you really are sick then it is even worse that you waste your 'precious' time on a device that will never perpetuate. I 'could' get it to work but it would require an alpha particle emitter that is always hot. if it's not hot it won't go. simple rule.

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« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2012, 01:18:35 PM »
you didn't get it did you? don't waste your time on this earth on Heron's fountain. if you really are sick then it is even worse that you waste your 'precious' time on a device that will never perpetuate. I 'could' get it to work but it would require an alpha particle emitter that is always hot. if it's not hot it won't go. simple rule.

  But I do "get it". I'm building Bessler's wheel and maybe I will try it, maybe I won't.
It can't be any worse than saying the Jewish Exodus in the Bible runs through the Wadi Tumilat Depression in Egypt. It would have been a sea of reeds or Yam Suph when the canal linking the Nile River to the Red Sea was in use. It even has ancient cities near what would have been it's shoreline.
 But there is one thing I do know that thankfully everyone doesn't and that is to know the difference between having normal hearing and having a hearing loss. I know the difference it has made in my life and that is where as I mentioned I happen to have a lot of free time. It seems people like stereotyping and when it comes to a hearing loss, I might as well be retarded, I get treated the same way. So to me, it is kind of insulting to be told how to live my life by people who are bored with theirs. Have had coworkers harass me over trying to meet someone. No reason for it but they think because they think they know something that I should live by it.
 Still, I will be spending about $500.00 on a table saw and a wood lathe and as I mentioned, an aquarium would be cool. Guess you haven't been around people that have done custom work but at the same time it would be kind of cool to show where people have missed something about Heron's work. They could have been to busy watching the fountain.
 There is one quote dating to the 1670's where some guy said tell someone not to do something and sure enough he will do it. Of course, I would have liked to have had a family but people told me to "get it" and that meant that when I did what they told me that they were being nice and helping me. All they did was to keep me from having a life. Kind of why I am motivated and other people are not. So you guys won't be able to say why it's impossible but then when I try to meet someone, no one will cause me problems. And to me that is worth taking the chance.
 Besides, I am taking on the U.S> Government and it's position on a hearing loss as a disability. They say ti isn't because people like me can work. They ignore the lack of life that discrimination accounts for. You should be telling me not to be doing that, one person against the government can't possibly win but I have already filed an appeal with the V.A. citing hearing loss only as a reason I should have my hearing loss rated as a disability.
 I think I will when and the U.S. will be embarrassed by it's callous attitude towards people like myself. I am looking forward to it and at the same time maybe showing Christians where they aren't as smart as they think they are by having gotten the Exodus wrong. I'll be killing 2 birds with one stone but then then they'll be better off for it in the long run which sometimes is important.  :D ;)

edited to add; @All, what I do get is people who have nothing but bad advice to offer have plenty to say. It is as ab hammer once told me, I don't want to build Bessler's wheel. He knows this because he claims he is a prophet and if I build it, he made it clear that he wants credit for giving me visions so people will accept his view of things. Of course, people who are to lazy to take the time to learn usually don't like those that do and this forum anymore seems to be inundated with people who want to sound smart but aren't.
 And as for myself, no reason I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy doing the build I am working on.
 I guess this is where overunity.com has become a skeptics forum, you know, the path less traveled.
 But I think I will stay on the mudy path I am on because it's in Bessler's trax that I follow and anyone familiar with his story (history) knows that he went it alone because few appreciated his accomplishment. Isn't it funny how things haven't changed ?

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »
    @All,
 if tinselkoala is an anagram for Nikola Tesla, then when I refered to Alan's work as Marconi's radio, the appropriate response would have been that Alan, er tinselkoala was demonstrating Tesla's attempt at a wireless distribution system. Niether one mentioned Tesla's work to demonstrate that tinselkoala is familiar with it.
 Kind of why I say B.S.
 As to the Jews and the Egyptians, the Egyptians during Ramses time were sea faring people who had a port on the Red Sea. Elephants could've easily moved the ships up stream (canal) and controlled their descent to the Red Sea.
 the Indus River people are one group they could have traded with as they were located in the Indus River Valley in northwestern India and had the first use of running water.
 Of course, east Africa and Asia also would have been possible. Still, the Jews were used to move Heliopolis because a drought had changed the course of the Nile River. And this could be one reason why some temples were built up river, to try to keep the water flowing.
 And with both temple moving and deconstructing buildings and reassembling them, mud brick would have been used. After all, flooding it with water would have let it be washed out when finished building. And for deconstructing things, using things twice like the stones the Egyptian buildings were composed of, it would have been easier to reuse them than quarry new ones.
 Still, I will be able to get a lot of work done on my Bessler build as the work I will need the wood lathe for would be some details that would be needed towards the end of the build.
 Not sure, but think Bessler left sufficient information to get credit for his work even though it was unappreciated in his time. And for fun, after Bessler, I may ask the History Channel about getting some info from scholars who are well versed in the Exodus and see about doing a show that would pretty much account for the Exodus as it is written in the Bible. The only change would be wall of water instead of walls of water.
 It may be that the s at the end of walls in Ancient Hebrew could have been possessive in the tense they wrote the word then. Don't know much about that language but doubt it would hurt to ask. And no, I don't go to church, they didn't like my kind. Kind of like in here.  :o

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #160 on: December 26, 2012, 11:51:25 PM »
This past weekend I constructed a Heron's Fountain according to the attached diagram.  I will post a video of it in operation when I get a chance.  This is a really cool project and cost me nothing to build.  It is amazing to see the water lifted higher than the starting point.  More later...

Bill

Instructions I used are here: http://blog.makezine.com/2008/06/08/build-herons-fountain-1/  I modified a few things to fit the materials I had laying about.

  Published Aug. 21st on youtube, just letting you know.
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« Reply #161 on: December 27, 2012, 05:51:57 AM »
So?  The plans I used were published a long time before this video. (2008)  So, what are you getting at?

The video you posted was listed as 2012.?

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #162 on: December 27, 2012, 04:03:00 PM »
He's finally noticing that YT videos have dates attached to them?

My first Heron's Fountain video was also posted on August 21, 2011..... at 3:36 am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlBqLM6Naw

I also posted four other Heron's Fountain videos that same day, August 21, 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3JMcFHwp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZtoyjF4aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2M05d8J8fU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8OVSPVKLBI



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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #163 on: December 28, 2012, 08:14:18 AM »
TK:

Yes, exactly.  There are indeed dates on Youtube videos.  It was your videos that inspired me to make my little replication device.

I was thinking of attempting to use a carbonated liquid in my fountain.  What do you think might happen?  I will try it and post a video of the results...good or bad.

Bill

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Re: Heron's Fountain
« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2012, 11:58:29 AM »
I did build a couple of these heron fountain's some time back.
I was wondering if anyone has thought of useing the bottom container as the water sorce,and the top container as the reciever?.
Then useing a magnetic latch and swing arm,once the top container was almost full-the magnetic latch would let go and the container would drop down to become the water delivery container.
Now you would have the almost empty container that was on the bottom now on top to recieve the water from the fountain.
You would ofcourse need a 3 way valve aswell to switch the delivery and return line's around.
But with that much weight dropping,there would be enough force avalible there to switch the valve.

 

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