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Author Topic: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity  (Read 136041 times)

Offline d3x0r

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2014, 02:58:44 PM »
I never got any responses...


wasn't the primary project the two bars; of which one bar can be removed, and the other bar removed, and be left with clips just inside the thing with no metal, right?


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2014, 04:39:55 PM »
Doing some more research, I found that M. Vialle has his own website:
http://richard-vialle.info/

A note to the francophone members - Google translate does a reasonable job, so you guys probably don't need to do any translating. What i think people will find useful is links to the most relevant pages, such as the above website.

I can't believe no one thought to post a link to Richard's website... :o

It's much easier for you guys to find the most relevant info, that it would be for a non-francophone. So if you can do that - and post links - Google can translate...

The forum link Khwatz gave here is a good one to follow:
http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1504

Some more links to relevant pages:
 - BUILD: http://richard-vialle.info/index.php/articles/systemes-exprmt/8-auto-generateur-richard-vialle-seconde-generation
 - TUNING: http://www.promtecno.org/reglages_1.php

In the forum, people have referred to big back-pulses of power which destroyed amplifiers... A link to more info on that would be good...

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2014, 06:13:01 PM »
This is another active thread on the topic:
"Proto for R.Vialle - Amp Generator current"
http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1430&st=0

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2014, 06:13:01 PM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2014, 06:50:01 PM »
This is an interesting vid by JLN - he shields the copper core with an earthed aluminium foil screen - and the output from the bulb goes up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfrJy5EINY

The resonant frequency is apparently determined by the length of the copper core - which is quite remarkable, I think...

JLN's 'Nextgen' core - made of a long length of folded wire - has the same 'sweet spot' resonance - in two totally different coils...

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2014, 06:56:20 PM »
Here, JLN says:
"If the entire length of wire was used, it would give a calculated according to the theory of Richard Vialle 1.55 MHz."
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/ugentest26.htm

Can someone please tell me what the formula is?

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2014, 09:03:54 PM »
Hi Khwartz :)
  I've seen your efforts on the other forum to get info from people. Thank you.

I have a plan for a replication, image attached. It's Richard's V1 gen - the straight one...

I want to use a straight, and short coil so i can try 2 ferrite cores (which I have) inside the copper tubes. I'd also like to try folded lengths of wire - like JLN did - and see how that changes the resonance.

The total length for the coil would be 1/3m - 330mm. With each tube at 150mm.

I will power it from my DC bench power supply, using a ZVS driver - designed for induction heating - to drive the tank circuit (capacitor not shown in diagram). I have used this arrangement before and it works well...

But - I'm not sure about the resonant frequency I should expect for the two 150mm tubes - and if it's very high, I may need to use fewer turns for the coil...

So - if you could dig out that formula for me? That would be very helpful...

Thanks, Tim :)

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2014, 10:20:33 PM »
I never got any responses...


wasn't the primary project the two bars; of which one bar can be removed, and the other bar removed, and be left with clips just inside the thing with no metal, right?
Richard original experience was made with a straight plain barre of copper, that why indeed we continue to speak about "barre" for the two halves of metal core even when it is a pipe.

Yes, both halves could be removed in his first experiment but it has the purpose to be able to know the ideal distance they were supposed to be separated,  now we know it can start from millimeters to centimeters.

And yes, if I remember well, even clips functioned in the air of the extrimities of the coil ;)

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2014, 10:20:33 PM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2014, 10:43:07 PM »
@tim123

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I can't believe no one thought to post a link to Richard's website... :o

Dear tim123, we were not about to share links to French pages but to translate them, and the web-site about Richard is not Richard's one but indeed BlueDragon one, I would say, for Richard. The translation were supposed to be published on the web site too. But I cannot translate everything in one time! Lol
 
True that Google can make a pretty good job, but it will have hard time with expressions. Could be I will use. Until now I didn't cause for appropriate translation needs to understand first the principles that Google will never be able ::)

Two threads could be interesting: the replications of Colas, which is advanced stuff where he is looking for creating the "avalanche" of power by looking for systematically the right frequency

http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?s=1875e5c1fd575d82c78b7170a6438d0b&showtopic=941

 and the BlueDragon's topic, where it is the basic experiment at its start

http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?s=1875e5c1fd575d82c78b7170a6438d0b&showtopic=1476

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2014, 11:02:02 PM »
Hi Khwartz :)
  I've seen your efforts on the other forum to get info from people. Thank you.

I have a plan for a replication, image attached. It's Richard's V1 gen - the straight one...

I want to use a straight, and short coil so i can try 2 ferrite cores (which I have) inside the copper tubes. I'd also like to try folded lengths of wire - like JLN did - and see how that changes the resonance.

The total length for the coil would be 1/3m - 330mm. With each tube at 150mm.

I will power it from my DC bench power supply, using a ZVS driver - designed for induction heating - to drive the tank circuit (capacitor not shown in diagram). I have used this arrangement before and it works well...

But - I'm not sure about the resonant frequency I should expect for the two 150mm tubes - and if it's very high, I may need to use fewer turns for the coil...

So - if you could dig out that formula for me? That would be very helpful...

Thanks, Tim :)
Good project! :)

For the formula, I cannot help you directly, I need to ask Pascuser who is Master in physics. I don't have the technical skills in maths to up to this level.

But Pascuser has done spreadsheets with the standard formulas and caracteristics, but as soon as you change something, not sure then you can really use it. As Woppy noted, it has been found very sensitive to the variation of very little details and he abandonned because he had not the tools to be more precise. Colas has few good tools and looks for a way indeed to systematically found the right frequency. Look at these diagrams in this page (date " Samedi 28 Décembre 2013 à 22h36):

http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=941&st=480

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2014, 11:54:04 PM »
The "negative power" is obtained while using the Pascuser's spreadsheet you will find just after:

"R : La puissance négative s'obtient lorsque les éléments suivants sont réunis :
 
1/ Le système est conçu suivant les caractéristiques calculés dans le fichier Excel  :"

In this page:

http://richard-vialle.info/index.php/articles/systemes-exprmt/15-auto-generateur-richard-vialle-faq

Good luck for the Google translation ;)
« Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 08:22:11 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #100 on: January 26, 2014, 12:12:33 AM »
@all

Good news!   :D

The checking of the list of the specifications for the replication have been made (thanks to BlueDragon :) ).

I will be able to translate and post it soon so that anyone could replicate, yest and work on it for improvement.


@tim123. You will see that multiple layers is said not ideal because what we look for is a very regular magnetic field, and straight "barres" look not be the easiest to tune and has not such much knowledge and results than the U shape. But any material for the "barre" could work even it is the ones having the more free electrons which looks working the best, like zinc, copper, etc. Anyway, not restrain yourself to try anything you want; been aware is it not what has been proved already working ; ) You will have too the ideal diameter for wire, kind, etc. :)

Best regards,
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #101 on: January 26, 2014, 12:16:16 PM »
Hi Khwartz,
  I noticed in the forum that BlueDragon says to "number of turns?" - "This is an important data which affects agreements output and input. it is our nemesis..."

What does he think about this:
 - If the frequency for a 1m bar is 3.6Mhz
 - Wavelength of 3.6Mhz = 83.27m
 - 1/4 Wavelength = 20.81m

So if we were to use 20.8m of wire - when driven at 3.6Mhz it will act like a resonant monopole antenna, I believe. Would this be the ideal configuration?

If so - then it works out like this:
 - On a 1m long core of 12mm diameter
 - Wire thickness (/ spacing): 2.13 mm
 - Total length of wire: 20.82m
 - 476 turns

I'd be interested to know what he thinks... I could join the french forum if you get fed up with being go-between. :)

I would probably like to try the short straight bar first - can you ask him or Pascal what the frequency should be for 300mm - as shown in my diagram. Thanks.

Regards, Tim

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2014, 06:59:32 PM »
Here they are!  :) the specifications for the basic replication: the "U" shape = the most documented one and the one who has produced "the electrical incident", as Pascuser call it, or "the power avalanche" (or just "avalanche"), as I call it - the original straight one has too produced the avalanche (with up to 1 m long of spike voltage) but less studied until now. (Thanks to BlueDragon for his comments I have "freely adapted" for the publication here :) ).

(U shape: the cheapest and easiest replication but enough to registrar the first level of o.u.)


THE "BAR":


- Diameter:

A tube of hollow copper, of 12 mm of out diameter.

The purpose being to place the copper in the magnetic field of the winding.


- Thickness:

1 mm thick.

It would be not to avoid the skin effects but it is simpler to have a hollow one, to drill a hole there or to weld a spring pin of 4mm to leave inside.

In this design, because of the frequency, most power will be on the mm of the hollow copper. So some simple hollow copper is an easy way out and it is a cheaper than solid copper bars.


- Shape:

Cylindrical.

In a general way, it is always preferable to make circulate currents in cylindrical drivers, rather than cubic or other, because there is for the latter particular effects at the levels of the edges.

In every case, prefer cylinder to any other shape for U shape.



- Material:

Any conductive and not conductive material would be used, but the power obtained at the output would have a direct relationship with the number of free electrons of the main atom of materials. (Copper, silver, zinc, etc.) The copper is the most common, for a first reproduction, is better to go with the copper.


- Number:

1 only simple pipe.

Tested with a single tube for the simple and good reason it is because the whole tube has to immersed in the magnetic field. If we use several pipes, then all the surface of the pipes are not immersed = > the results will thus be bad or low, according to the power of the applied field.



- Assembling:

A single type of assembly: 1 meter of copper pipe, with a cut in the middle of the U, spacing of 1 in 5mm with insulation.



- Note:

Needs to understand that the U is in fact only a mass of copper of a certain length which must be immersed in a sinusoidal magnetic field with a particular frequency.




THE COIL:



- Diameter:

Related to 1.5mm ² maximum of section.



- Kind:

A single solid wire to wind the whole U, without " cut + weld", and no litz wire.

An enamelled wire like for flyback, or "telephone wire", diameter of 0.4mm to 1mm can be enough, the objective being to build a coil which creates a regular magnetic field.



- Material:

Copper cause cheap and mostly use in electricity.



- Isolated or not?


Insulated, or enamelled but with layer of insulation between winding and bar.

It is necessary that the winding is isolated of U for the simple and good reason that the objective is to produce a magnetic field in which will immerse the U.

We winding close around the U to limit the power necessary, because the U is really "excited"(really "got excited") by the magnetic field. If the designer is capable of supplying a magnetic field ultra powerful, the winding necessarily is not as necessary to be stuck on the pipe.



- If insulated, nature of the insulating material and its thickness

Standard insulation wire of telephone (the girdle of the phone wire, the small girdle/loom surrounding the copper wire, and not the big girdle/loom which binds the pairs of wires), or as the voltage used in the winding, the varnish put on the enamelled thread is widely enough.



- Number of turns:

Looks to be an important datum which influences the tuning of output and input.

It is our pet peeve, but actually, the objective being to produce a uniform magnetic field, the winding with joined spires is recommended.



- Number of layers:

 Only 1 to have a uniform magnetic field.



- Note:

If we use the enamelled wire, make sure that there is no conductivity between the U and the enamelled wire.




LIST OF THE EQUIPMENTS TO RECORD THE OVERUNITY OF THE BAR ITSELF:


For the generator of frequency, use either a generator of frequencies of laboratory, or a Chinese generator with AD9851.

The generator of frequency of laboratory should allow to deliver up to 10 volts and 200 mA, what is enough for the beginning.

The DDS AD9851 will require necessarily a pre-amplifier and an amplifier.

It is not advised to connect the AD9851 directly on the winding: the amperage will be too low and potentially the AD9851 is going not to like!

Cheap way: it is thus necessary to turn to a DDS AD9851 followed by an amplifier for the frequency band 3Mhz in 6Mhz range. Unfortunately, these amplifiers are not common.


For the reading of the power in input of the U and out of the U, the various threads of the forum of Conspirovniscience.com speak about it. [You can Google for raw translation to have ideas but I will try to translate one or two threads of.]

Looks far to be easy because it is very complicated to obtain a power (with caring cos.Phi - power factor) from an unclear sinusoid.

The only really applicable solution it is to equip itself with not inductive resistance to take a part of the current, then make screen shots of the oscilloscope, then to do the calculation of the powers manually time after time (manually = via spreadsheet or a software).

An oscilloscope 2 ways minimum, 4 ways better, which connects to the PC where we are capable of getting back information directly on the PC for data treatment - the thread of PascUser is an example for this kind of processes.



VARIOUS SPECIFICATIONS:

- Cut of the bar perpendicularly to its length.

- Spacing of 2 to 5 mm dielectric insulation.

- Compensation of the loss of diameter in the separation by an any insulating material for a winding of regular shape and diameter.

- Ending of the extremities of the winding so that it does not take off, and place a small cardboard cylinder at the end of copper to continue to wind little beyond the copper, from 0.5cm to 1cm.

- Installation either of a wire of short circuit of 1m of length, or a system of coil plus variables capacitances, between both extremities of the very bar to tune the output of the U.

- Installation of a load in parallel of the output tuning circuit (bulb or linear resistance more ideally for the measures and the calculations of output power).

- Feeding of the winding either directly by a generator of frequencies which can deliver a range frequencies from 1 to 10 MHz, or an equivalent system with with very low consumption but being able to deliver enough power.

Generally, in input to give between 5 and 10v for 30mA in 500mA, if we have a waves generator of high-tech laboratory, otherwise to use a DDS AD9851 to generate the frequency, then place after an amplifier HF which is linear on the frequency band 2Mhz to 8mhz. Generally, needs to be contrusted, or to order to shops for American radio ham and to import one.

Best regards, Khwartz  :P

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2014, 07:21:05 PM »
Hi Khwartz,
  I noticed in the forum that BlueDragon says to "number of turns?" - "This is an important data which affects agreements output and input. it is our nemesis..."

What does he think about this:
 - If the frequency for a 1m bar is 3.6Mhz
 - Wavelength of 3.6Mhz = 83.27m
 - 1/4 Wavelength = 20.81m

So if we were to use 20.8m of wire - when driven at 3.6Mhz it will act like a resonant monopole antenna, I believe. Would this be the ideal configuration?


If so - then it works out like this:
 - On a 1m long core of 12mm diameter
 - Wire thickness (/ spacing): 2.13 mm
 - Total length of wire: 20.82m
 - 476 turns

I'd be interested to know what he thinks... I could join the french forum if you get fed up with being go-between. :)

Hi dear tim123.

I very understand your idea :D

No need to ask him, you may do it like this :)

An advise he gave already to wind your wire is to wind in the same time time 2 wires with one having the thickness of your spacing. Of course, you take off the spacer then. Double faces glued, glued around the pipe, could help ;)

In other words, the regularity is main here as the clarity/purity/simplicity of the waves are of main importance, according to BlueDragon.

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I would probably like to try the short straight bar first - can you ask him or Pascal what the frequency should be for 300mm - as shown in my diagram. Thanks.

Regards, Tim

Look at the first attempt of Richard in JNL Website or in "Richard's website", you should find the datum.

Otherwise, I do recommend you to registre in Conspirovniscience.com and to PM directly to Pascuser (or PascUser) as he well bins English language; you could report your data here too so that the Community here could profit too ;)

I think Woppy could answer you here directly in this thread (or PM him too).

Best regards.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2014, 08:02:15 PM »
Ok, Pascal's spreadsheet is here. It contains the formula - and it's pretty easy to figure it out.
http://richard-vialle.info/index.php/telechargement/finish/4/24

It says, for 12mm copper bar, at 300mm, the frequency should be 6.56Mhz. :)

I have to say - compliments to the chef! - Pascal's spreadsheet is formidable!

I very understand your idea :D
No need to ask him, you may do it like this...

Dear Khwartz, I'm afraid that I don't think you did understand my idea, but it's ok. I will join the frenchies forum (assuming they'll have me), and post me questions there directly. Sorry, I should have done that originally. :)

 

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