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New theories about free energy systems => The Aether => Topic started by: forest on August 17, 2012, 06:14:56 PM
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My friends !
Let me put here a crazy theory I'm fighting with in my mind for a few years. I believe in law of simplicity - truth must be simple not complicated ! With so many various theories in the past from various persons there must be a "common denominator" , something which is the real fact behind the varous barriers of comprehention.
So here is a preliminary attempt to resolve problem :
What is electric current ? I found that it is nothing more but what we were looking for more then age - longitudinal sound wave in ether. Electrons are small bullets and small magnets pushed by this sound wave. When they are pushed they flip around producing magnetic field ad flip back producing local electric field pulse (dielectric). It is only the matter of experimental checks to see about magnetic field in space aka electro-magnetic wave to have clear picture of situation , because the bounded spin magnetic field of electrons makes it unnecessary complicated when we use conductors. So finally I want to state this , however I cannot yet prove it:
Ed Leedscalnin was correct about electric current : it is a sound like wave with magnetic part rotating like corkscrew around the center unipolar electric field not undulating (even more , i would state that it's only that magnetic part what is real and electric is a push forward of this screw!) This is basic DC, and it can propagate in space too without resistance - this is scalar wave or longitudinal wave.(proof : various experiments of exploding tiny wires from capacitive discharge described in Tesla article also 'On dissipation of electricity in Hertz oscillator"). Interesting that two kinds should exists : positive and negative depending on rotation direction.
Once scalar wave hit conductor it moves along and depending on frequency it looks like normal electricity or cold current (yes it depends only on that) - cold current being ultra high frequency aka electrostatics.
When disturbed in space (vacuum) it starts to undulating like a spring !, the same if we modulate it - in space it become EM radiation , in conductor we call it - AC current. EM radiation flows in such form in free space, when we measure it looks exactly how explained in books because the screew peaks with applied modulation looks like a transverse wave and pushing action (electric mode) is also wave-like.
Now you see why radiant energy is so elusive - it is current ! It is hard to make it in air because of ionization catching it and slowing considerably exactly like electrons in conductor but even more (ions are heavier and probably cannot flip in space so freely) - famous stinging effect is because of slow repetition of creating this effect, but in high and ultra high frequency it is electrostatic field.
Now time to solve resistance mystery and bad formulation of energy conservation law !
even if you don't accept my theory please think a little about it. Took me years to comprehend it in such manner. Btw this is probably what James Clerk Maxwell though about originally - a tube of force in space being the elementary etheric flow and a basic for all forces. When we have kind of vortex of a lot of such tubes we have our magnetic field like in permanent magnet.
Together we can formulate theory and correct the missing pieces like comprehension of currently only defined elements like charge, potential , fields like gravity and incorrect definitions like work or badly formulated laws like energy law.[size=0.85em]
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Interesting post but still unclear to me.
I recently finished some work on what Dr. Tesla considered 'radiant energy' to be and the thought process that led him there. The short answer is from Tesla’s Latest Roentgen Ray Investigations, Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896): '…streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner.'
His theory changed over time and he later saw that the 'radiant energy' was emitted by all stars in the universe rather than just the sun. We are truly awash in a sea of energy.
See attached files. The timeline file needs to be viewed with high screen resolution.
I would surely like to hear your opinions on how this fits into your theory.
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This is what Moray thought and used in his Earth and air machine that ran 100 watt light bulb only from an 8 foot high "antenna wire" and a 9 foot ground rod using his special diode and capacitors to collect that energy and convert it usable power . It was reported that as long as the ant and ground are there the out put to light all his 100 watt Edison bulbs with "cold electricity than could flow threw a sheet of glass on the output wires . Very interesting and doable project . If fact it's already been done and is reported that you can make this deice in little modules and 100 of these modules would run your house . two little modules put out over 75watts with a deep ground rod and 60 feet in the air wire hung from trees with insulators .
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Do you have links or references where I could find more information about the Moray replication? I'm somewhat familiar with Moray's work and would very much like to look at the replication info.
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@thx1138 here you go http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt7.html (http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt7.html)
and Moray pdf http://www.free-energy-devices.com/P26.pdf (http://www.free-energy-devices.com/P26.pdf)
gadget
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@gadget:
What volts/amps do you get with that circuit?
truesearch
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@gadget:
What volts/amps do you get with that circuit?
truesearch
@truesearch read the links i posted . capable of charging a 12 volt battery . He has build a BIG Board of these. Check it out."quote:This arrangement provides serious power, enough to cause injury to, or kill a careless human. With two modules, it will light an LED very brightly, driving it to 2.6 volts. If the LED is removed, then the voltage climbs to about twenty volts and is easily sufficient to charge a 12V battery or battery bank although that takes time. With twenty modules as 12V battery can be charged over night. It is estimated that with two hundred modules, the power would be sufficient to power a household although that has not yet been done. It should be borne in mind that each module is easy and cheap to make, so arranging for a stack of them where additional modules can be added at a later date for more power, is an ideal arrangement.
Gadget
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Interesting post but still unclear to me.
I recently finished some work on what Dr. Tesla considered 'radiant energy' to be and the thought process that led him there. The short answer is from Tesla’s Latest Roentgen Ray Investigations, Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896): '…streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner.'
His theory changed over time and he later saw that the 'radiant energy' was emitted by all stars in the universe rather than just the sun. We are truly awash in a sea of energy.
See attached files. The timeline file needs to be viewed with high screen resolution.
I would surely like to hear your opinions on how this fits into your theory.
Stunning work ! I'm very impressed. I agree with all conclusions, some of them I do not fully comprehend yet. For example I'm fully aware that sun is electrical phenomenon and energy from it is running Earth wheelwork. Clearly I don't see how a metal ball like Earth can sustain itself magnetic field able to cope with solar wind if not powered by external forces.
I know that Tesla worked with one wire energy transfer starting from 1890 or 1889 investigating the bulb powered by one terminal of HV coil but what it bother me must is that even if there was only one terminal in every case existed also the second terminal. Even if he put a standing wave on long conductor with a bulb at the and and a capacitive insulated plate as a reservoir , the second terminal was there balanced with another plate or ground.
Even so called Tesla coil still has the second terminal grounded or connected to primary (and then grounded or floating).
As you see it's not a finished theory I have - it's a partial ideas only mstly due to personal limitation and the school which taught me wrong ideas and I cannot ride them out . I'm fighting with ground system and single wire transmission and closed loop systems and how it all cooperate together especially when we add Earth electrical system.
However if every electrical device really has to have two terminals and closed loop even if capacitively or inductively arranged (even if it looks like closed path is missing) then the main question arise : where is the second terminal of our solar system wheelwork ? Is this the center of galaxy or something else ?
Your timeline is missing one small but important fact. You should know why it is so important.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htm)
I see somebody was interested to find more about this Clemente Figueras who sparkled Tesla interest in 1902. If we could get any pictures of his machine it would be a tremendous help.
http://es.globedia.com/enigma-clemente-figuera-maquina-energia-infinita (http://es.globedia.com/enigma-clemente-figuera-maquina-energia-infinita)
http://orbo.es/?p=26 (http://orbo.es/?p=26)
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@forest:
I'm fighting with ground system and single wire transmission and closed loop
systems...
I'll give you my interpretation which may or may not be correct. Don't think of the transmission line as part of the system of connections. To simplfy it think of transmitting a signal, not power. The transmitter is one device. It has a power source and a ground. It transmitts by inducing a current in one wire. That wire if just a wire. It has no source of its own nor a ground connection. The receiver receives the power from that one wire via induction from the one wire into the receiver. The receiver also has it's own power source and ground system to tune it to the frequency of the transmitter's induced signal. There is no return from the receiver to the transmitter. It is similar to a regulor radio of today in that the radio station transmits and the receiver receives. They both have a power source and ground but there is no return connection between them. But Dr. Tesla's system is different in that it doesn't transmit transverse waves but uses the conductance of the atmosphere or the crust of the earth to transmit that longitudinal wave. While the transverse wave is similar to tying one end of a string to a fixed object and jerking the free end up and down creating a wave in the string that is damped by the interaction with air, the longitudinal wave is more like a hose filled with water that has a piston in each end. Push the piston on one end and the piston on the other end moves. It is a compression wave or a change in pressure density inside the hose. Here's a couple of links that clarified it for me:
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html (http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html) - specifically see figure 2
http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/waves/wavemotion.html (http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/waves/wavemotion.html) - waves
http://www.scribd.com/doc/87370681/Fritz-Lowenstein-Capacities-1916 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/87370681/Fritz-Lowenstein-Capacities-1916) - spherical capacitors
Your timeline is missing one small but important fact. You should know why it is
so important.
I read Dr. Tesla's book but had never seen that article. Many thanks...I think. While reviewing that article and updating my document I had what might be a brainstorm, or maybe, a brain fart. I haven't decided yet.
I have been looking at Dr. Tesla's work on a global scale and considering the planet and its atmosphere as a capacitor from which we can extract power but consider the following.
Definition of a semiconductor: : “A semiconductor is a substance, usually a solid chemical element or compound, that can conduct electricity under some conditions but not others, making it a good medium for the control of electrical current. Its conductance varies depending on the current or voltage applied to a control electrode, or on the intensity of irradiation by infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, or X rays.†http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/semiconductor (http://searchcio-midmarket.techtarget.com/definition/semiconductor)
The “usually a solid chemical element or compound†means “usually todayâ€, as in solid state semiconductors. Dr. Tesla, however, had shown with his various high voltage, high frequency experiments that air and the atmosphere itself can be a semiconductor in that it can “conduct electricity under some conditions but not othersâ€. In fact when you see lightning or a spark in a spark gap you are seeing air acting as a voltage controlled semiconductor. So the spark gap was the “semiconductor†of Dr. Tesla’s day at least up to the point where the Crookes and Lennard vacuum tubes came into play.
In light of the above observation about semiconductors, can we consider the earth as the drain region, the upper strata of the atmosphere as the source region, the high frequency, high voltage spark gap device as the gate region and the atmosphere between them as the depletion region of a transistor? When the HF/HV spark gap device (gate) is activated it transforms the atmosphere (depletion region) from the non-conducting state to a conducting state and opens the conducting channel between the cosmic rays and whatever we use to receive the energy. If the voltage supply is constant we get an arc (a steady flow) instead of a spark and when the arc is rapidly quenched we get a pulsing, unidirectional conducting channel.
Actually, many thanks, indeed, to you.
It's the brain storm/fart that has me aggravated because now I have to rethink the whole scenario of Dr. Tesla's work in terms of a planet sized FET transistor where the cosmic rays are the source, a capacitance (the earth or otherwise) is the drain, and Dr. Tesla's device is the gate actuating mechanism whereby we open a conducting channel between the cosmic rays and whatever our ground or 'virtual ground' is.
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Isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor, an extreme high-voltage semiconductor.
Like a sealed Leyden jar but full of the alcohol vapor instead of water. Try to get all the air out and just have the saturated vapor in there. There is an explosion hazard so don't use glass and do wear safety glasses.
Sorry I can't tell you more.
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To be precise : IMHO in 1902 Tesla stated he knew about the method of joining generator and motor (not necessary in physical form as we know it today) to be self-sustaining and producing useful power in small amount. That was what Clemente Figuera most probably did according to partially recovered patents. This is not about athospheric electricity, not air , not ions. It's all about radiant energy or radio energy. As Tesla stated Hertz waves simply do not exists, because there cannot be transverse waves in fluid like ether. Transverse waves are possible only on boundaries of two mediums of different structure like rope and air, water and air. Exception : very wasteful but possible are tranverse waves between areas of fluid of different properties, like between pure liquid and a vortex in liquid.
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Isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor, an extreme high-voltage semiconductor.
Like a sealed Leyden jar but full of the alcohol vapor instead of water. Try to get all the air out and just have the saturated vapor in there. There is an explosion hazard so don't use glass and do wear safety glasses.
Sorry I can't tell you more.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=orphan+annie+decoder (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=orphan+annie+decoder)
Hope to see you next time I am in Burgaria.
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So since when did capacitors become semi conductors?
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So since when did capacitors become semi conductors?
Since I used an isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor in a high voltage circuit at 60 kV and demonstrated (to the usual high-level physicists who must remain nameless) that it could act as an amplifier in the same manner as a bipolar transistor, when its internal field was manipulated by subtle changes in geometry.
This was before it exploded, of course.
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Are you sure it was like that?
I mean vaying geometry sounds a bit like varying capacity.
And no gas filling is going to withstand 60KV it will ionize the moment you give it some juice.
Or explode indeed given it cointains the correct mixture but then it would not be a pure gas inside.
That sounds more like a plasma tube then a capacitor to me.
Then it can be possible it functions as some sort of gas filled cold cathode vacuum tube but amplifying capacitors, no never seen that before.
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I think you have misinterpreted some of Dr. Tesla's statements.
As Tesla stated Hertz waves simply do not exists
I don't think Dr. Tesla said this. He did say that Hetyz waves could not carry signals or power very far due to damping but he never said they do not exist.
This is not about athospheric electricity, not air , not ions.
From 'Tesla Cosmic Ray Motor May Transmit Power ‘Round Earth', by John A.O’NEILL for Brooklin Eagle on JUly 10, 1932, 'I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device', declared Nikola Tesla, famous scientist, in an interview last evening on the eve of his 76th birthday. 'Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood.', said Dr. Tesla. ... Dr. Tesla stated that the amount of power he was able to develop in the device was insignificant. I asked him if its power output was of the same magnitude as that of Crookes‘ radiometer, the device with four vanes in a glass tube that are rotated by sunlight, and which is often seen in jewelers‘ windows. He stated that the power output was many thousand times that of a Crookes‘ radiometer. 'The attractive feature of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them.' I was able to prevail upon Dr. Tesla to give me some idea of the principle upon which his cosmic ray motor works. 'I will tell you in the most general way', he said. 'The cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges – ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor.'
And from 'In the Realm of Science: Tesla. Who Predicted Radio, Now Looks Forward to Sending Waves to the Moon', by John J. O’NEILL for New York Herald Tribune dated August 22, 1937: 'The effects at great elevations', Dr. Tesla continued, 'are due to waves of extremely small lengths produced by the sun in a certain region of the atmosphere. This is the discovery I wish to make known. The process involved in the generation of the waves is the following: The sun projects charged particles constituting an electric current which passes through a conducting stratum of the atmosphere approximately ten kilometers (six miles) thick enveloping the earth. This is a transmission of electrical energy exactly as I illustrated in my experimental lecture in which one end of a wire is connected to an electric generator of high potential, its other end being free. In this case the generator is represented by the sun and the wire by the conducting air. The passage of the solar current involves the transference of electrical charges from particle to particle with the speed of light, resulting in the production of extremely short and penetrating waves. As the air stratum mentioned is the source of the waves it follows that the so-called cosmic rays observed at great altitude must increase as this stratum is approached.'
So radiant energy recovery, IMO, has everything to do with the atmosphere, ions, and waves but not Hertzian transverse waves.
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I know there was some confusion back in the days about radiant energy because in the past people associated it with the photo electric efffect in which high energy photons knock out electrons due to secondary emission.
It could also mean something like ion wind comparable to solar wind which charges up bodies it encounters.
I did some experiments long time ago and noticed the ground wire showd up as being positive when the electrode was bombarded with an airflow of highly charged air.
Also when you say atmosphere it's a word with wide spread meaning the earth has a magnetic field which is DC this makes the copmpass point north and then there is the electromagnetic field which is AC this is where all radiowaves go and also lightwaves then there is the electric field which is the atmospheric charge between the top of the ionosphere and ground so there are a lot of things to look at when you say atmosphere.
From Moray i know he did 3 staged frequency conversion probably in a 3 staged ring modulator to transform low frequency to mid range and from there to ultra high frequency and maybe the way around from high to low so in any case he was not just stepping up and down voltages but converting frequencies.
Also the detector seemed to have used a radioactive salt which probably ionized the tube and the area around the detector itself.
Yes he did say it was the ions.
I am unaware of any gas used in his tube but if so it could cointain a plasma which is a superconductor.
He somehow managed to place his load between the waves of energy coming and going from space the energy was forced to run through his load before given the oppertunity to flow back something like that.
But Moray research was a long time ago for me i did do a large amount of testing but never made it to the power levels he was reaching.
It could verry well be the energy radiated by lightning strokes like the schumann resonance or pherhaps it was coming to us from outer space like he was thinking maybe from the sun who knows.
Anywho i did not find enough material about this subject to make a working device.
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Isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor, an extreme high-voltage semiconductor.
Like a sealed Leyden jar but full of the alcohol vapor instead of water. Try to get all the air out and just have the saturated vapor in there. There is an explosion hazard so don't use glass and do wear safety glasses.
Sorry I can't tell you more.
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I apologize for my snarky reply yesterday. I get that way after a couple of days with no sleep. With a rested and clearer perspective this morning I looked into the saturated alcohol vapor 'condenser' and did indeed find an interesting reference - an easily built real time cosmic ray visualization device that can detect charged particles at low altitudes: http://quarknet.fnal.gov/resources/QN_CloudChamberV1_4.pdf (http://quarknet.fnal.gov/resources/QN_CloudChamberV1_4.pdf)
Of course detecting charged particles and harnessing their power are two different things.
Having read the other posts this morning, I find that I have a very limited mind. I cannot conceive of the idea that anyone would want to stroke a contained, saturated alcohol vapor with a 60kV shot. What in the world were you thinking?
I did notice that the above article said that ethyl alcohol works better than isopropyl. Maybe that was the problem. ;)
So since when did capacitors become semi conductors?
A semiconductor is defined as a substance that can conduct electricity under some conditions but not others. Useing that definition the dielectric in a capacitor is a voltage controlled semiconductor. In its normal state it does not conduct. When the dielectric breaks down, typically from too high a voltage being applied, it conducts. Of course, in the case of a capacitor, it is a 'one-shot' semiconductor that lets out its magic smoke. ::)
Air in a spark gap acts the same way. A sufficienty high voltage will break down the dielectric property of the air and it will conduct when it becomes sufficiently charged. Air, however, has the ability to 'heal' itself by once again becoming an insulator when the voltage is removed whereas the capacitor does not have that feature.
So we can look at air as a semiconductor that operates under unusual conditions and a spark gap device as the transistor of Dr. Tesla's day. The following quote, from page 216 of The Nikola Tesla Treasury by Wilder Publications, is interesting in that it somewhat describes the use of a transistor today where a low voltage/current is used to control a much higher volatge/current: 'The ideal medium for a discharge gap should only crack...think for the sake of illustration, of a piece of glass or similar body clamped in a vice, and the vice tightened more and more. At a certain point a minute increase of the pressure will cause the glass to crack. The loss of energy involved in splitting the glass may be practically nothing, for though the force is great, the displacement need be but extremely small.'
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Isopropyl alcohol vapor capacitor, an extreme high-voltage semiconductor.
Like a sealed Leyden jar but full of the alcohol vapor instead of water. Try to get all the air out and just have the saturated vapor in there. There is an explosion hazard so don't use glass and do wear safety glasses.
Sorry I can't tell you more.
8)
I apologize for my snarky reply yesterday. I get that way after a couple of days with no sleep. With a rested and clearer perspective this morning I looked into the saturated alcohol vapor 'condenser' and did indeed find an interesting reference - an easily built real time cosmic ray visualization device that can detect charged particles at low altitudes: http://quarknet.fnal.gov/resources/QN_CloudChamberV1_4.pdf (http://quarknet.fnal.gov/resources/QN_CloudChamberV1_4.pdf)
Of course detecting charged particles and harnessing their power are two different things.
Having read the other posts this morning, I find that I have a very limited mind. I cannot conceive of the idea that anyone would want to stroke a contained, saturated alcohol vapor with a 60kV shot. What in the world were you thinking?
I did notice that the above article said that ethyl alcohol works better than isopropyl. Maybe that was the problem. ;)
So since when did capacitors become semi conductors?
A semiconductor is defined as a substance that can conduct electricity under some conditions but not others. Useing that definition the dielectric in a capacitor is a voltage controlled semiconductor. In its normal state it does not conduct. When the dielectric breaks down, typically from too high a voltage being applied, it conducts. Of course, in the case of a capacitor, it is a 'one-shot' semiconductor that lets out its magic smoke. ::)
Air in a spark gap acts the same way. A sufficienty high voltage will break down the dielectric property of the air and it will conduct when it becomes sufficiently charged. Air, however, has the ability to 'heal' itself by once again becoming an insulator when the voltage is removed whereas the capacitor does not have that feature.
So we can look at air as a semiconductor that operates under unusual conditions and a spark gap device as the transistor of Dr. Tesla's day. The following quote, from page 216 of The Nikola Tesla Treasury by Wilder Publications, is interesting in that it somewhat describes the use of a transistor today where a low voltage/current is used to control a much higher volatge/current: 'The ideal medium for a discharge gap should only crack...think for the sake of illustration, of a piece of glass or similar body clamped in a vice, and the vice tightened more and more. At a certain point a minute increase of the pressure will cause the glass to crack. The loss of energy involved in splitting the glass may be practically nothing, for though the force is great, the displacement need be but extremely small.'
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Nothing was misinterpreted. ;)
Read it by yourself :
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1932-09-11.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1932-09-11.htm)
If Tesla was right (and I think he was ) there is no transverse electromagnetic waves. Hard to believe but I found how it might evolved - here however there are msotly my assumptions.... I believe ed Leedscalnin was in contact with late Tesla and he described him the correct and simple theory of electricity which is very close to my point of view - longitudinal but rotating waves in ether. Like tubes of force in gaseous substance moving like corkscrew and thus having one of two polarities. Such rotating longitudinal wave can have properties like transverse wave when examined locally.
Anyway, look at tree rocked in the wind : does this transverse movement prove that wind is transverse movement in air ?
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If you go back and read the articles, it is the authors of the articles that say Hertz waves don't exist, not Dr. Tesla. Dr. Tesla does make the point that they are wholly ineffective for transmitting over long distances and that it is delusional to think that they can but that is a matter of transmission, not whether or not they exist. In fact he makes the point in one article by stating, 'As regards signaling without wires, the application of these radiations for the purpose was quite obvious. When Dr. Hertz was asked whether such a system would be of practical value, he did not think so, and he was correct in his forecast. The best that might have been expected was a method of communication similar to the heliographic and subject to the same or even greater limitations.', heliographic signalling being the use of mirrors and reflected sunlight.
Note that in the below I use the archaic word 'aether' simply because I like it and it differentiates the subject from the word 'ether' as used in chemistry.
Here is what Dr. Tesla said about the nature of electricity on May 20, 1891 in Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Applications to Methods of Artificial Illumination, 'What is electricity and what is magnetism? The most able intellects have ceaselessly wrestled with the problem; still the question has yet been answered. But while we cannot even today state what the singular forces are, we have made good headway towards the solution to the problem. We are now confident that electric and magnetic phenomena are attributable to aether, are perhaps justified in saying that the effects of static electricity are effects of aether under strain, and those of dynamic electricity and electro-magnetism effects of aether in motion. But this still leaves the question as to what electricity and magnetism are unanswered. … we must remember that we have no evidence of electricity, nor can we hope to get it, unless gross matter is present. Electricity, therefore, cannot be called aether in the broad sense of the term but nothing would seem to stand in the way of calling electricity aether associated with matter, or bound aether, or, in other words, that the so called static charge of the molecule is aether associated in some way with the molecule.'
I suppose if you consider matter an expression of aether in motion as a vortex that would tie your theory together with electricity. But whatever electricity is we must interact with matter to harness it to accomplish work.
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Ed Leedscalnin was correct about electric current : it is a sound like wave with magnetic part rotating like corkscrew around the center unipolar electric field not undulating (even more , i would state that it's only that magnetic part what is real and electric is a push forward of this screw!)...Interesting that two kinds should exists : positive and negative depending on rotation direction.
See this video. I think it helps visualize your idea. Two motions. One of convection and one of superimposed rotation. Note also near the end a change in frequency reverses the direction of rotation. It may stimulate your thinking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY6z2hLgYuY&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY6z2hLgYuY&feature=player_embedded)
Thoughts?
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Two macro whirls of opposing directions in 3D space looking exactly like those cymatics ones are forming magnetic field. Macro whirls are composed of many tubular microwhirls working in synchronicity (Maxwell tubes of force in ether I suppose)
Somebody described magnetic field that way, it is not purely my imagination , however I can't rememeber who he was. Anyway my theory matches with that description also.
I'd like to recall who wrote such a book about magnetism, he was free energy inventor also. do you have any idea who am I thinking of ?
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Two macro whirls of opposing directions in 3D space looking exactly like those cymatics ones are forming magnetic field. Macro whirls are composed of many tubular microwhirls working in synchronicity (Maxwell tubes of force in ether I suppose)
Somebody described magnetic field that way, it is not purely my imagination , however I can't rememeber who he was. Anyway my theory matches with that description also.
I'd like to recall who wrote such a book about magnetism, he was free energy inventor also. do you have any idea who am I thinking of ?
I remember something of that nature. I think it was either Dr. Tesla or one of the Thomsons. Maybe J. J. Thomson.
I found this link yesterday. It seems related to what you are looking for. If it is not at that link it may be at one of the publications referenced there.
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/HTMLdosya1/TeslaDynamicGravity.htm (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/HTMLdosya1/TeslaDynamicGravity.htm)
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You may find this interesting. It's not so much about your theory but about frames of reference.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130104143516.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130104143516.htm)
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A few comments about the circuit shown in posts 4 and 6 in this thread. The circuit, excluding the aerial and the ground is nothing more than a voltage quadrupler except for one thing. The diodes are 1N34 germaium diodes. Those diodes are also photodiodes, meaning they convert light to electricity.
Shine a bright flashlight on them and you will get higher voltage output. Wrap the glass cases of the diodes with black plastic tape and you will get the electricity between the elevated aerial and the ground plate connection.
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Tesla was not in hurry to uncover aspects of his discovery. I suspect he thought that humanity was not ready for it.
I missed that part below, which is the real but not complete explanation :
And from 'In the Realm of Science: Tesla. Who Predicted Radio, Now Looks Forward to Sending Waves to the Moon', by John J. O’NEILL for New York Herald Tribune dated August 22, 1937: 'The effects at great elevations', Dr. Tesla continued, 'are due to waves of extremely small lengths produced by the sun in a certain region of the atmosphere. This is the discovery I wish to make known. The process involved in the generation of the waves is the following: The sun projects charged particles constituting an electric current which passes through a conducting stratum of the atmosphere approximately ten kilometers (six miles) thick enveloping the earth. This is a transmission of electrical energy exactly as I illustrated in my experimental lecture in which one end of a wire is connected to an electric generator of high potential, its other end being free. In this case the generator is represented by the sun and the wire by the conducting air. The passage of the solar current involves the transference of electrical charges from particle to particle with the speed of light, resulting in the production of extremely short and penetrating waves. As the air stratum mentioned is the source of the waves it follows that the so-called cosmic rays observed at great altitude must increase as this stratum is approached.'
The problem is very big damage to the information we have from Tesla; they are very fragmentary... in other article he just mention how he harnessed it.... ::)
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Two macro whirls of opposing directions in 3D space looking exactly like those cymatics ones are forming magnetic field. Macro whirls are composed of many tubular microwhirls working in synchronicity (Maxwell tubes of force in ether I suppose)
Somebody described magnetic field that way, it is not purely my imagination , however I can't rememeber who he was. Anyway my theory matches with that description also.
I'd like to recall who wrote such a book about magnetism, he was free energy inventor also. do you have any idea who am I thinking of ?
Now I remember who it was that described the magnetic fields that way. It was Leedskalnin. His stuff is so hard to read it doesn't stick in my mind very well.
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@forest: You will undoubtedly find Harold Aspden's work interesting. There is a lot of it so it will take quite a while to wade through it. The following link takes you to a page that has 10 lessons to learn to understand his perspective on the aether. This is from somewhat deep into his papers but I think it is a good starting point. http://www.aetherscience.org/www-energyscience-org-uk/tu/lessons.htm (http://www.aetherscience.org/www-energyscience-org-uk/tu/lessons.htm)
The following link is the top level page of the web site of his works. http://www.aetherscience.org/www-energyscience-org-uk/index-2.html (http://www.aetherscience.org/www-energyscience-org-uk/index-2.html)
He has a lot of credibility in my eyes and I'm still wading through his work so don't have much more to share about it right now. He has some British patents, he recognizes that the U.S. patent system is rigged and he has worked for IBM and some power companies so he has an insiders perspective. He is, however, a theoretical physicist rather than technologist.
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The problem is very big damage to the information we have from Tesla; they are very fragmentary... in other article he just mention how he harnessed it.... ::)
What I've found over 2 1/2 years of these studies is that you have to generally know what you are looking for, i.e. radiant energy, transmission, cosmic rays, etc. Then go back to about 1891 and work forward reading his works specifically looking for things that relate to that one topic. He worked on so many things, often overlapping in time, that, as you say, it's hard to comprehend what exactly his thoughts were. You'll also notice that as his work progressed, just like anyone, his thoughts on the topic changed so you have to study the documentation in the sequence it was generated. One of the things that helps with this is looking at patent application dates rather than the date the patent was granted. The application dates show the point in time where he had developed his idea to the point that it could be reduced to a patent and date granted may be years later.
The reason I say 1891 is that he was mostly working on AC power generation and wired transmission and his polyphase system before then.
Something else one must grasp to make headway with his work is to understand what was NOT known at the time of the text you are reading. For instance, in 1891 the atom was still considered the indivisible minimum of matter but that changed in the late 1890's with J. J. Thomson's work on the electron. All industrial scale power was generated by coal at the time - the use of petrochemicals hadn't evolved yet. Another instance is that the jet stream was unknown and would definitely would have affected any "ionized beam to the ionosphere". Plate tectonics was not accepted until the 1960's and I imagine would have affected his transmission through the ground and may be the problem with his superluminal calculation if he thought the wave was reflecting back from the diametric opposite pole of the earth but was actually reflecting back from the tectonic plate boundary. For that matter it wasn't until the 1930's that people started to grasp that the interior of the planet has solid and liquid layers.
On the other hand, I do think the majority of his thoughts can be determined by his patents, published papers, and interviews if you know what you're looking for and you focus on one topic at a time.