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gn0stik

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2006, 06:47:31 PM »
Here you go, here's the circuit diagram, the conversion element diagram, and the patents for said devices. These are the original patent and the two subsequent patents he received while working with the government. Check out that video on google video, just look up p.lindemann, or free energy secrets of cold electricity.



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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2006, 06:47:07 AM »
I thought I would post a link to this video and image from my lab.
Tesla is right, the capacitor does make a difference in the longitudal waves down the coil from the violent blast. The better I can get the cap to charge and release creating a bigger snap the better the strobe light lights. Here is an image of the setup http://cmnet.ca/projects/maggap.jpg. Here is a video applying violent shocks to 6 raps of house wire. The right side coil is connected to the strobe light. http://cmnet.ca/projects/hvt1.avi.

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2006, 06:49:19 AM »
I thought I would post a link to this video and image from my lab.
Tesla is right, the capacitor does make a difference in the longitudal waves down the coil from the violent blast. The better I can get the cap to charge and release creating a bigger snap the better the strobe light lights. Here is an image of the setup http://cmnet.ca/projects/maggap.jpg. Here is a video applying violent shocks to 6 raps of house wire. The right side coil is connected to the strobe light. http://cmnet.ca/projects/hvt1.avi.

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When I test the circuit without a capacitor, the spark gap will jump the full distance of the electrodes when the electrodes are at their widest. The strobe light will not light and using a milliamp meter on a separate coil, which is held close to the base of the heavy coil, shows 0 ma. With 2 .05 microfarad 1kv cap in series from a 1940Â’s radio, the distance between the electrodes has to be about 1-2 mm to get a white spark. The strobe light lights and the amp meter shows .05 ma. As well I used a coil connected to my oscilloscope, placed at 90 deg to the setup coil and could read a 9-10 volt ac wave. I believe with this experiment I may understand what Peter Lindermann described in his presentation with regards to some of TeslaÂ’s work in conduction with Hertz. “Slapping the water with a hand.” One other note: The positive side of the thick coil showed much less to no action but the negitive side is where I took the above values. Disconnecting one wire from the strobe light, I could get a 3mm spark that would seem to go into wood, the ends of capacitors  and the end of my finger from that wire with out any shocking affect <such fun :)>.  So perhaps the higher readings with the capacitor was do to the capacitor being a capacitor and holding back until it has some amps behind it sending more amps into the main coil and producing a higher voltage to light the strobe. ???? The pulses were timmed the same.  

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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2006, 03:52:30 PM »
Im new to this community, i have been over on physics forum for awhile. i dont know why this thread died but i find your experimental video and idea very interesting. what exactly is that set up you have, from the picutre i have a gard time telling. i looks as though you have some sort of coil with 5 windings comeing from the capacitors going to a turbe of some sort. Have you tried it with capacitors with a higher micro ferit rating? When Dr. Lindeminn says that the abrupt \discharges must be less than 100 micro seconds does he mean less frequent than 100 micro seconds. I feel as though all that are interested in harnessing these truly astonishing electro radiant events should come with me to start in a strategic direction to figure out this circuit along with telsa's magnifying transmitter, and how the two coorilate. If you have not watched the peter a lindeminn. (sp.) video on google video, i HIGHLY suggest you watch it or read the book before joining the discussion, for the insight it provides is remarkable. Evan

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 03:57:06 PM »
also, did ed gray's circuit produce ozone?

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Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2006, 08:08:03 PM »
In his book, Peter Lindemann says that Tesla used a magnetic spark gap in which the wires were bent into a horn shape.  This sounds like a miny Jacobs Ladder, augmented by the nearby magnet's field.  (The powerful magnet from an old hard drive may work, but I haven't tried it, to verify the field orrientation.)  The objective is to blow out the arc as quickly as possible, without allowing any current reversals.  If this is tried, insulate the magnet with some crystal clear shipping tape, which is polypropylene, the best HV insulator by far.  Without striving for Tesla's exotic effects, the duration of the spark has to be less than one tenth milisecond.

I've read that Ed's latest motors were sold to Al Francouer, in Canada.  Al runs the Flying Saucer Machines group on YahooGroups.

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2006, 12:06:52 AM »
have you had any success in building the ed gray circuit?

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2006, 01:48:29 AM »
I've had success with "splitting the positive", but not with Ed's published circuit.  Although it's easy to initiate a capacitive discharge when the polarity is negative, when the positive sides of two caps are discharged to each other, the discharge is much harder to initiate.  I've found that doing this requires the transformer's spark as well.  This is something which is missing with his diagram, since he shows four diodes to charge the main capacitor.  I only use one diode (rectifier).  It's possible that he also used only one diode, for ecconomy, but included the full bridge in the patent circuit, for preciseness in the art.  I'm using a 16 mF cap for the main one (at 7.5 kV), and a small, homemade one for the "lower voltage" - without using the 12 V. battery for anything other than to run the inverter which powers the HV transformer.  I discharge both caps through the transformer's arc.  Also, I've set my circuit up so that each cap has a different Time Constant, by discharging the small cap through the transformer's secondary, while the large cap has a seperate inductive component.  I've built the Conversion Tube, and I'm going to experiment with a ceiling fan motor as the Pulse Motor.  This motor is wired differently than most motors, and precise timing of the discharge, relative to the coil's position, isn't necessary.  The patent mentions that the circuit will work with any inductive load.  Of course, the discharge will still have to be of short duration.  So I may have to change the capacitor in the motor to a smaller value, due to the higher frequency, but I don't think it'll need a higher Voltage rating, to the positive nature of the pulses.

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2007, 08:19:38 PM »
did your setup show anything promising?

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2007, 02:23:34 PM »
I've noticed one thing of interest.  With one experiment, I included a gradient plate in the discharge path, to accelerate the expanding spark.  This plate consists of alternating layers of insulation and small aluminum foil squares, with a 3/16" hole through the center.  I placed the point of a safety pin just outside the center of the hole and connected the far end of the gradient plate to the transformer's return wire.  The safety pin went to the transformer's side of the diode, with the leaky home made cap in series between the diode and the gradient plate's output end.  After charging the large cap by touching its wire to the safety pin for a few seconds, I broke the circuit momentarilly, then touched the wire to the safety pin again, to discharge the big cap.  The cap's expanded discharge spark is normally around 5/16"X5/8", but when accelerated by the gradient, the spark volume was around 1"X2" and bright white.

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2007, 04:47:18 PM »
Do you have a schematic associated with your experiments you could share with us?
(Some pictures will be encouraging too  ::))

Thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2007, 04:35:36 PM »
I've placed the basic circuit online.  There's no text, yet.  I also have other circuits and some hardware pictures I'll put up in the next few days.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/puffcir.jpg

The component at the top right is a defibrillator Inductor.  It's rated at 100 miliHenry.  It's sealed in Bakelite, and there may be insulation between the layers of the coil.  The top cap is 16mF at 7.5 kV.  The transformer is the secondary of a 7.5 kV NST.

To initiate the Puff Spark effect, pull the Inductor's wire away from the main arc, then touch the arc with the wire.  I keep the wire fastened to the end of a wooden dowel rod.  The positive side of both caps discharge through the transformer's arc, through different inductors.

For the White Spark, I placed the gradient plate around the first half of the main arc.  This stopped the arc, but still allowed - and accelerated - the Puff Spark.

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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2007, 04:54:57 AM »
I've uploaded some pictures of my Ed Gray test circuit equipment.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/Set Up.jpg

By examining the picture, you can see that each component is connected the same way as in the circuit diagram under the picture.  The two capacitors, including the home made one at the bottom, are each connected to opposite sides of the transformer.  The top cap is in series with the defibrillator inductor on the top.  The blue wire coming from the transformer forms a spark gap with the bolt on the end of the yellow diode.  These are two of the electrode circles in the diagram.  The third electrode circle is the wire at the end of the dowell rod.  The dowell is pulled out of the inductor and used as a handle to position the wire, to charge the top cap against the diode's bolt terminal.  This circuit is then broken after a few seconds, with the dowell used immediately to touch the wire back to the arc again.  The result is the arc puffs way up for a short, on going interval.  If the top cap is only barely charged before the circuit is broken and refired, the main arc developes a region of opaque dark blue turbulence, signifying the presence of Field Energy.  My feeling is that this is the effect I'll obtain once I add a high speed interruptor to the circuit.  My belief is that this dark blue energy is electro-optical in nature, and, if so, it should be conductive.  This will allow Ed's Power Conversion Tube to act as a switching element, applying the heavy amperage from his battery to the motor - 6,000 times per second.  Incidentally, when a dowell rod is positioned at an angle through the inductor, the wood experiences a torque impulse, aligning it with the inductor's axis when the circuit is fired.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/gradientplate.jpg

This picture shows my gradient plate, which is just under an inch square by 3/8" thick.  It smoked the last time I used it, but the picture shows the basic idea.  The burn pattern seems to reveal a longitudinal curl.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/halfbaked.jpg

The dowell rod's wire can be left connected to the diode's spark gap terminal, without breaking the circuit.  After the cap builds up a certain percentage of its maximum charge, it will discharge spontaneously, puffing the arc.  At the same time, it sends its positive charge through the arc in the opposite direction as the positive charge from the smaller cap.  So, the arc "splits the positive".  With this version of the circuit, only two discharge electrodes are needed.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/farfetchedgray.jpg

This uses the same concept as my half baked idea of using both sides of the transformer for the first and second inductors.  This circuit illustrates the differences between Ed's published circuit and the circuit I discovered.

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/Scalar.jpg

This image shows two circuits.  The input electrodes are the circles on the outside.  The circuit on the left was invented by Harvey Norris and he calls it a Binary Resonant System (BRS).  He maintains, and has demonstrated, that the single arc functions as a Scalar Emitter.  The arc generates two sine waves, one going in each direction.  The circuit on the right is my circuit, with the same orriginal connections, but drawn to resemble his, to highlight the differences.  This circuit produces a Scalar Click, with two positive pulses traveling through the arc in different directions.  Since this is similar to the electrostatic discharge pulse from a Van deGraaff generator, it's possible that these two circuits can be used in tandem to mimic the Hutchinson Effect.


When testing the circuit's set up shown in the picture, with the transformer switched off after charging the caps, the spark will make a slow, fizzeling squirt when the switch wire is touched to the normal end of the diode.  This drawn out spark effect is caused by the current limiting action of the defibrillator inductor.  When both caps are the same size, this squirting will reverse directions when the wire is subsequently touched to the diode's other end.  The charge can only be shuttled between the caps three or four times like this before it fades out.  -JV

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2007, 05:02:15 AM »
Well, the first link doesn't work with a space in it, so use this one:

http://www.freewebs.com/attatchments/pics/SetUp.jpg

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Re: Eds design
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2008, 05:12:39 AM »
Well, this is where you've been hanging your hat, Jerry.  Good to see you still "around" even if that last post is a year old.  One of the few guys I know to have actually managed to obtain a "non-classical" event from his ciruit.

Hope all is well.

Dennis

 

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