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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #90 on: August 22, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »
   @All,
  A cleaner drawing. The one I will build will use a deck with cleats. Somewhat of a homeage
to my having been around ships.
 If the release line is attached to the top part of the catch mechnism, then when the line is pulled
taut, it should release the swinging weight. The weight can have the rod to the fulcrum going
through it. This will allow it to slide slightly up it as it pushes the catch mechanism away before
the catch mechanism moves under the swinging weight to catch it on it's return movement. it is this line which will
time the movement or rocking/tilting of the cross beam. The catch mechanism can catch pins that are located on the
sides of the weights. This means that there woulld be 2 catch mechanisms working together, one for each side of the
weight.
 The cross beam's motion can be controlled by stops placed on the cross beam which interact with the
main support that the cross beam pivots on.
 The pulley for the opposing weight can be attached to the main support at about an angle of 45 degrees.
This will allow the force the line places on the pin or pulley to be in the direction of the support.
 The basic size from center pivot of the cross bem to the center of the pin for the swing weight is
12" (inches). The cross beam is centered length wise to maintain it's balance between left and right.
 
                                                                                                            Jim
 
 
 And to modify the agreement I posted, I do not work with private builders
associated with the Arrache build group.
This includes AB Hammer.
 
                     
                     
                     
                     
               James . Lindgaard

 
 
To set a story straight. Most of us will not work with James Lindgaard either. But I do wish Jim the best of luck.
Alan / AB Hammer
PS- Yes Jim, I am still around. I just don't post much due to I don't have the time with all the reconstruction going on.

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Re: My Invention
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Offline zoelra

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« Reply #91 on: August 22, 2012, 04:48:43 PM »
Well James suggested an approach to closing the loop with the 2SO and it looks promising.  He is just another guy trying to solve the riddle.  I respect that.  I will help anyone that I can, assuming I can afford it and it does not distract too much from my own build.  I have limited experience with all the designs presented so I don't post much.  In fact, I only recently started posting on this forum because of my past experience and belief in the 2SO.  I will share my build in time.  I have no desire to patent.
 

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« Reply #92 on: August 22, 2012, 05:47:04 PM »
 that's nice alan.
and maybe the next time you of someone working through cancer, you will leave them alone ?
 and you are right, my dad isn't to smart. after all, he did move to America.
 I can work off line and if my work doesn't look like it's the only thing I've ever done, that's okay because I will have done other things.
 You know what they say, Jack of all trades anc master of none.
 I can live with that.

edited to add; without a patent on a perpetual pendulum, only businesses would profit and who knows what else would ensue such as legal battles. but dic find out a willingness to donate patent rights brought about the same old problems.
 of course, like alan and his friends say is that bessler's wheel can be patented because no one knows what his wheel was like. integrity ?

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Offline zoelra

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« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2012, 07:09:10 PM »
James,
 
I think my evening is open tonight so I really want to move on to the next test.  This would be to move the cord attachment point from the counter weight to a position between the weight and main lever pivot point.  This will increase the down force caused by the counter weight but will also shorten the distance the bob is lifted.  I have no doubt a reset movement will occur, but how much movement is the question.  Sorry I haven't tested all of your suggestions yet.  I have every intention to do so, I just need more time.
 
I have a stack of memory sticks here with me at work today.  If one of them has my old 2SO vids, I will post.
 
Rick
 

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« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2012, 07:18:58 PM »
I should clarify my position on patenting.  I would like to (if for no other reason than to protect my right to sell and profit from the invention), but after reading so much about this, I'm not sure I want the headache of it all.
 
Of course patenting implies one has found the solution, so I guess we all hope to be put in such a position.
 

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2012, 07:23:30 PM »
  zoelra,
 what people might find interesting and hopefully be easy for you to do is have 5 lbs. on the pendulum and 2 1/2 for tne counter weight. the line would go from the cw to the pulley above it then to the bob. a weight would be moving twice it's own weight.
 maybe alan can discuss it with you. only reason I thought of trying something like this got tired of a thread that is 10 years old. it's something like 12 times more power, alan knows which one I'm talking about.

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« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2012, 08:12:40 PM »
James,
 
I am confused.  Please correct me where I am wrong.
 
2.5lb as the CW and 5lb as the BOB.  Cord goes from CW to overhead pulley then straight to BOB.
 
This is basically the setup I used in my last video post, but I used identical 2.5lb weights for the CW and BOB.  In that setup, the BOB lifted the CW and with a fair amount of force.  This is opposite the reset movement we are seeking.
 
I am attaching that video to this post.
 
Rick

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Re: My Invention
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Re: My Invention
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2012, 08:37:35 PM »
 can't see videos right now.
what 2 1/2 lbs. lifting 5 lbs. would show that a 2 1/2 lb. cw could drop 2 inches while a 2 1/2 lb. bob could move 3 inches. it would be one way lost motion of the bob could be restored.

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« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2012, 11:55:27 PM »
  zoelra,
 tomorrow, I will post a diagram that will be fairly simple. And if that doesn't show anything, then I'd have to think it unlikely of being able to work perpetually.

edited to simplify post.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2012, 01:17:29 AM by johnny874 »

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Re: My Invention
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« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2012, 09:50:23 PM »
  zoelra,
 the diagram is for reference only. as tinselkoala has pointed out previously, I do not have a computer to work and references are not acceptable.
 What the digram shows is that using 5 lb. weights, there is 45 inches pounds for the counter weight and 60 inch pounds for the pendulum.
 If the pendulum swings inward 3o degrees and the cross beam tilts 4 inches, this will lift the bob 2 inches. If the bob is being pulled from the side to maintain a 30 degree relationship with gravity (no gain), it might be able to be lifted the 2 inches for less than 10 pounds of work. This is because pulling it from the side
should use less energy. And then it might be possible to have 10 inch pounds of the counter weight power a "winch" at something like an 8:1 ratio. Even at such a small movemewnt, when the bob is being pulled to the side, if it requires even 2 1/2 lbs. of force to hold the angle, it will move higher.
 Why this would matter is when it swings, with the fulcrum being 4 inches higher, this would mean a 4 inch drop in the bob as it swings. And this drop might allow it to swing back to 30 degrees. The vertical drop of the fulcrum would add some momentum to the bob but can't be sure how much.
 If you want to mess with it, it's all yours. If so, try having a 1 pound weight using a hoist type pulley to see if it can hold the bob to one side. It'd end up being a lot of work in the end if it's possible.
 But I've put a lot of work over the years into Bessler's wheel. And what is so funny about that is the floks over at Bessler wheel.com don't believe perpetual motion is possible.
zoelra, here's a some what simple idea I came up with. I like how Alex modified it. No reason something like this wouldn't work. It's based on a pump being able to pump enough water into a tank which feeds a bucket that operates the pump.
Kind of why I wonder why tk thinks I need to learn his ways. He's posted over 4500 times and probably has nothing to say. Needless to say, I think I am tired of the trolls in these forums. But check out the thread.
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« Reply #100 on: August 24, 2012, 12:14:29 AM »
To set a story straight. Most of us will not work with James Lindgaard either. But I do wish Jim the best of luck.
Alan / AB Hammer
PS- Yes Jim, I am still around. I just don't post much due to I don't have the time with all the reconstruction going on.

 oh, alan, remember this post of yours ? Saying my medical problems make me a fraud ?
 But you say that is not slander, it is and something I shiold sue you for.
 http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4656
 

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« Reply #101 on: August 24, 2012, 01:18:31 AM »
  zoelra,
 this was an idea I helped webby1 (Tom) develop. Not sure why he lost interest in it.
But now that I know tk and others are messaging each other about me, not sure what all
they're up to.
 But you might find this idea interesting. it's funny though, when I'm done with Bessler's
wheel, i might not make it known. To much hate surrounding it.
http://www.overunity.com/12337/webby1s-pendulum/

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« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2012, 05:15:09 PM »
Hi James,
 
Sorry for not posting earlier.
 
Last night I was able to make some additional videos which I will now try to explain.  In order to use the same weight for the counter weight and pendulum bob, I had to move the counter weight out 6 inches so that there was sufficient torque to pull the lever back down after the pendulum swing.  I also added an additional mount so I could swing the pendulum and mark how high the main lever rose (on the counter weight side) when the pendulum was at the bottom of its swing.  I drew a line on the main lever to indicate the initial drop position of the pendulum lever relative to the main lever.  I also added a line on the opposite side of the pendulum pivot point which represents where the pendulum lever should stop after its swing (same height as drop height).  After measuring how high the pendulum lever actually rose, the difference would be the height the reset mechanism would need to lift the bob.
 
Interesting enough, the main lever did not drop (or not by much) by the time the pendulum bob came to a stop at the top of its swing on the inside position.   This is what is shown in the first video (f1).  In the second video (f2), I lowered the camera to a position that was level with the top of the pendulum bob when it came to a stop at the top of its swing on the inside position.  I put a piece of blue tape on wall behind the pendulum, and after a few test swings, I marked the top position with a black line.  I then connected a cord to the main lever and the pendulum bob so that when the main lever was at the top position, the pendulum bob would be at the actual position it came to after its swing.  This is what is shown in the third video (f3).  I also attached a picture which was a slide out of f3 that shows how high the pendulum rose when the main lever was at its highest position.  On this picture I marked in red the drop and ideal raise position of the pendulum lever.
 
Well from the videos you can see that the pendulum does not return to the same height (or relative position against the main lever) from which it was dropped.  You can also see that the reset mechanism does not fully reset the weight.  By moving the cord further out along the main lever, the distance it travels vertically may allow the bob to be raised further.  More testing is required.  I think the results though are position and worth thinking about.  Also keep in mind that I did not use bearings so the main lever and pendulum bob did not raise as high as they could have due to increased friction.
 
Rick

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« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2012, 05:21:07 PM »
2nd and 3rd video and pic

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« Reply #104 on: August 27, 2012, 11:20:32 PM »
I think I need to clarify what I said in my previous post.  The attached picture (f2-slide) is taken from the second video (f2) when the pendulum bob has come to a stop at the top of its swing to the inside.  At this time, the main lever is also at its highest position.  Note the position of the pendulum lever relative to the main lever.  In the third video (f3) a cord has been added to link the pendulum bob to the main lever such that when I lift the lever to it's highest point, the pendulum bob is also at its highest point (as determined during the swing test in the second video (f2).  When I let the lever drop, the bob is raised, but not to the initial drop position.  In the video I manually show how high it still has to be lifted.  Open the third video and place it just above the pic so you can still see the pic.  You will see when I lift the lever to the top position, it resembles the arrangement of the levers in the picture.
 
By positioning the cord attachment point out further along the main lever, this will increase the amount of cord pulled and will lift the bob higher.  Of course the counter weight may have to be moved out further as well or made heavier to counter the increased torgue due to moving the attachment point out further.
 
 

 

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