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johnny874

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My Invention
« on: August 11, 2012, 04:59:31 PM »
 I will consider this post first publication as it will detail the invention and give the needed information for filing a patent.
 My name is James Lindgaard and am the inventor.
 Residence; Richmond, Ky.
The invention is a perpetual pendulum
 
On 3rd page.Provisional Application for Patent Filing Date Requirements It can be filed up to one year following the date of first sale, offer for sale, public use, or publication of the invention.
 http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/ProvApp.pdf
 Specification 
The specification is a written description of the invention and of the manner and process of making and using the invention that concludes with the claims to the invention, which must begin on a new page. The specification must be in clear, full, concise, and exact terms to enable any person skilled in the art or science to which the invention pertains to make and use the same.
 
 The machine operates because of an imbalance caused by a swinging weight. By having 2 weights suspended from a cross beam at different distance, when the weight that is furthest away swings inward and is caught by a hoisting mechanism, it's center of mass creates resistence closer to the pivot of the cross beam. By doing so, it allows the opposing suspended weight to have greater potential because it is suspended further from the pivot of the cross beam than the hoisting mechanism suspending the weight capable of swinging.
 The hoist mechanism uses pulley's or pins that attach the catching mechanism to a ppoint further from the pivot of the cross beam but not beyond the point where the opposing weight is suspended.
 The weight capable of swinging will be pulled free by a line attached to the base of the machine and to the weight itself or extension of the weight. This will happen when the weight is being lifted and the line attached to the base becomes taught.
 When the weight is pulled free from the hoisting mechanism, it's force will act on the point where it's line is attached to the cross beam causing it to have greater force than the opposing weight.Title of Invention 
The title of the invention (or an introductory portion stating the name, citizenship, residence of each applicant, and the title of the invention) should appear as the heading on the first page of the specification
  Perpetual Motion Machine
James Lindgaard , Citizenship is American
 
 Background of the Invention 
This section should include a statement of the field of endeavor to which the invention pertains. This section may also include a paraphrasing of the applicable U.S. patent classification definitions or the subject matter of the claimed invention.
 
Also, it should contain a description of information known to you, including references to specific documents, which are related to your invention. It should contain, if applicable, references to specific problems involved in the prior art (or state of technology) which your invention is drawn toward. See MPEP 608.01(c) for more information
 
 The catch emchanism would ahve it's position maintained by having it's supporting lines be attached to the position on the cross beam from the opposing direction of it being used to hoist the swinging weight with. This would allow the catch mechanism to always be postioned to catch the swinging weight which is as important as any other aspect of this invention.
 In previous attempts at perpetual motion, such devices have failed because they could not shift the balance of the weights without using the work gained from weights to reset the weights continuously. With this invention, it has solved in this instance the problem of  restting a weight so it can have a greater force than another weight maintaining a constant source of imbalance.
 
  Nice way of saving patent rights. And if successful, of course will have to remember the host.
Am not sure but may donate patent rights to charity. Building a working Bessler Wheel is what I would really like to see happen. With this in mind, if someone would like to work with me on this, let me know.
 In reality, if I do this by myself, will keep the money. And in this day and age, electronic signatures are accepted. So if anyone helps me, some people would benefit from this and we'd get some recognition for it.
 Something for you guys to think about. And yes, this is a legal contract if someone accepts the terms.
 
                                                                                                 James A. Lindgaard

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 08:22:18 PM »
   @All,
  A cleaner drawing. The one I will build will use a deck with cleats. Somewhat of a homeage
to my having been around ships.
 If the release line is attached to the top part of the catch mechnism, then when the line is pulled
taut, it should release the swinging weight. The weight can have the rod to the fulcrum going
through it. This will allow it to slide slightly up it as it pushes the catch mechanism away before
the catch mechanism moves under the swinging weight to catch it on it's return movement. it is this line which will
time the movement or rocking/tilting of the cross beam. The catch mechanism can catch pins that are located on the
sides of the weights. This means that there woulld be 2 catch mechanisms working together, one for each side of the
weight.
 The cross beam's motion can be controlled by stops placed on the cross beam which interact with the
main support that the cross beam pivots on.
 The pulley for the opposing weight can be attached to the main support at about an angle of 45 degrees.
This will allow the force the line places on the pin or pulley to be in the direction of the support.
 The basic size from center pivot of the cross bem to the center of the pin for the swing weight is
12" (inches). The cross beam is centered length wise to maintain it's balance between left and right.
 
                                                                                                            Jim
 
 
 And to modify the agreement I posted, I do not work with private builders associated with the Arrache build group.
This includes AB Hammer.
                                                                                                         James . Lindgaard
 
 

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 09:36:13 PM »
Well, you just blew any chance of patenting that scheme, if that was your intention, by publishing your claims and drawings publicly.


http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxl_35_U_S_C_102.htm

You will have to complete and file a NONprovisional patent application within one year from today or you cannot patent it at all. And that's not even considering whether the patent will be granted.
You will also have to demonstrate that your invention is New, Useful, and hasn't been demonstrated before by someone else. Good luck.



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Re: My Invention
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 12:50:19 AM »
Well, you just blew any chance of patenting that scheme, if that was your intention, by publishing your claims and drawings publicly.


http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxl_35_U_S_C_102.htm

You will have to complete and file a NONprovisional patent application within one year from today or you cannot patent it at all. And that's not even considering whether the patent will be granted.
You will also have to demonstrate that your invention is New, Useful, and hasn't been demonstrated before by someone else. Good luck.



TK:

Exactly correct, from what I know.  I love the folks that post stuff on OU and then get help from smart guys like you....and then...remove all videos and posts saying they are going for the patent now.  A long time ago a very expensive patent attorney assured me it does not work that way.

Bill

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2012, 02:35:24 AM »
   @TK & Bill,
  How many private messages did you send each other before posting ¿?
 I mean really, TK said I lost all rights for patent purposes and then Bill says watch me delete my posts which only a forum moderator like himself can do.
 Still, for someone who is interested, let me know.

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 02:44:43 AM »
   @TK & Bill,
  How many private messages did you send each other before posting ¿?
 I mean really, TK said I lost all rights for patent purposes and then Bill says watch me delete my posts which only a forum moderator like himself can do.
 Still, for someone who is interested, let me know.

Wow.  Hold on here.  I don't believe I have ever pm'd TK.  Also, yes, I am a moderator on here BUT only on like 2 topic areas....not a total Moderator of the entire site.  I have no idea where you are coming from but, I have to say that you are totally wrong on your assumptions.


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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 02:46:33 AM »
Also, please note that on my posts here...it says something like hero member....NOT moderator....proving my point.  What posts do you think I deleted?

Bill

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 03:12:49 AM »
  Bill,
 read your last post. When I referenced the USPTO, where was I wrong ?
 You and TK were in agreement that I was. You even said that people like me delete my posts when people like TK show where patent rignts are lost by openly posting an invention like what I am doing.
 That is called disinformation.
 Also, the design I posted is workable.
 Only jealous people would play games like those being played.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 04:27:44 AM »
  Bill,
 read your last post. When I referenced the USPTO, where was I wrong ?
 You and TK were in agreement that I was. You even said that people like me delete my posts when people like TK show where patent rignts are lost by openly posting an invention like what I am doing.
 That is called disinformation.
 Also, the design I posted is workable.
 Only jealous people would play games like those being played.

Well, OK, whatever.  I have no ideas what you are talking about.  You are not making any sense.


Bill

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2012, 07:17:56 AM »
   @TK & Bill,
  How many private messages did you send each other before posting ¿?
 I mean really, TK said I lost all rights for patent purposes and then Bill says watch me delete my posts which only a forum moderator like himself can do.
 Still, for someone who is interested, let me know.
Well, Pirate and I have been around for a while and have participated in discussions on several topics. We don't always agree but I respect him and I hope he respects me.

I assure you.... in this matter we have not exchanged any PMs or 'back channel' communications at all. Of course we can't prove this to you easily... but the Patent information isn't a secret, many people know... or should know.... about it.

And on this forum any poster can replace his (or her) own posts with completely different content at any time. As far as I am aware there isn't any time limit on edits, so you can just go back, delete all the content, and replace it with a dot, or something completely different. It has happened before...

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2012, 07:54:20 AM »
Well, Pirate and I have been around for a while and have participated in discussions on several topics. We don't always agree but I respect him and I hope he respects me.

I assure you.... in this matter we have not exchanged any PMs or 'back channel' communications at all. Of course we can't prove this to you easily... but the Patent information isn't a secret, many people know... or should know.... about it.

And on this forum any poster can replace his (or her) own posts with completely different content at any time. As far as I am aware there isn't any time limit on edits, so you can just go back, delete all the content, and replace it with a dot, or something completely different. It has happened before...

TK:

That is correct.  I do hope that you know that even thought we don't always agree, I have the greatest respect for your knowledge and building skills.  The thing that I think that you have brought to these discussions here on OU is that, you put your building skills behind what you say.  If someone does something and claims something...you build it and then ask "what the hell?"  But, you took the time to build it even though you already knew it would not really work.  Anyway...I have a lot of respect for you for that.

Bill

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2012, 04:18:17 PM »
  umm,
 not sure about you two.
Bill, when you say I know it won't work, you are insulting me.
 Thanks to my hearing loss, I've had time to to sit home and study math and how it applies to leveraged motion.
 If a person wants to understand something, at some point they need to be willing to take the time to learn.
 I guess you could say that I have turned my disability into an ability.

             Jim

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2012, 11:05:49 PM »
  umm,
 not sure about you two.
Bill, when you say I know it won't work, you are insulting me.
 Thanks to my hearing loss, I've had time to to sit home and study math and how it applies to leveraged motion.
 If a person wants to understand something, at some point they need to be willing to take the time to learn.
 I guess you could say that I have turned my disability into an ability.

             Jim

Jim:

I never said your device will not work...I never even implied that at all.  My comment complimenting TK was about all of the other devices he took the time to replicate...from Mylow, Rose, and many others.  Nothing to do with you at all.

Bill

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2012, 12:23:23 AM »
johny
Thanks for sharing your ideas, My mind is to small to model all those connections and motions ,I envy your obvious ability to play with these ideas.
   There is a member here [EM Devices] that recently advocated the pendulum as a possible OU source while dropping , perhaps you can have a look here
 
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1489.0
 
Thank you
Chet
PS
Bill good to see you around. [""Now"" is a very good time to be around.................!:.]
PPS
Always good to see TK too.
 
 

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Re: My Invention
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2012, 02:15:16 AM »
Thanks, Bill, Chet.

Jim.... I haven't looked at your system in depth at all, I just responded to the patentability issue.

Your system seems simple enough though.... why don't you build it yourself and see how it works, before you get all excited about patenting it?

I am really sorry that I don't have my machine shop tools here, I can only do electronic stuff where I am right now. If I had my lathe and mill and other tooling, I would be much more interested in the mechanical builds I see happening right now. But I'm essentially unable to do anything other than drilling holes, not too precisely either, until I can get my tooling sent down to me.... and that may never happen, at this rate.

Anyhow, I don't think we are hostile... just cautious, and I for one would hate to see you screw yourself out of being able to patent a good original idea just because you talked about it here in a public forum.

--TK