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Author Topic: Caution when building LaFonte Pseudo Solid Rotor  (Read 10922 times)

Butch LaFonte

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Caution when building LaFonte Pseudo Solid Rotor
« on: April 12, 2005, 10:43:28 PM »
The rotor ferro-magnetic material must be AC electric motor or transformer quality material.
The material needs to retain as little magnetism as possible when the external field is removed or it will reduce the overunity effect. Also produce as little eddy current drag as possible.
I am using electrical steel laminates custom made in a shop. The alloy is M19 and .025" thick. It is bonded not riveted.
I will post fabrication drawing today for anyone interested.
Please use electrical steel or other AC electric motor rotor or transformer materials when doing these tests if you are building one of my designs. The results will be very much different.
Thanks,
Butch

This is an old post>
Go to butchlafonte.com to view new test model, Thanks, Butch
This is an old post>
Go to Custom 2 page on my site and see the LaFonte Pseudo Magnet motor. This is very hard to figure out unexplained, so I will do so now. There are two separate rotors that rotate on the same axis. One is drawn into the wedge shaped red permanent magnet fixture just as a steel ball is in the SMOT, but using square ferro-magnetic bars. There it stops in the sticky spot at the top of the drawing. The second rotor now is drawn into the wedge and it's bar becomes flush with the first. Now, the two bars together move the first bar out of the flux path with little to no work because the magnets see them as one solid bar and it is free to move away leaving the second bar behind in the sticky spot. The first bar then rotates around and starts the cycle again moving out the bar left behind in the sticky spot. Seeing the two rotors in 2D is a little hard to see their geometry, but maybe the side and end views will help.
Thanks,
Butch
http://butchlafonte.50megs.com/
Custom 2 page

This is an old post>
I'm looking for people to replicate my tests results from a design I have come up with. Should we have been using square moving elements in the SMOT and other designs? The reason being the if the two squares match up even enough, then the two pieces could act as a pseudo solid with respect to being pulled away from a magnetic field. See my drawing on my old web page. There would be some eddy current drag, but that can be eliminated with laminating and materials technology. The element in the sticky spot could be moved out and the incoming element take it's place as the two act as a solid till the first element is out of the field, then it is free to move away from the fixture.
The seam between the two should not cause any drag to speak of.
Try it at home between two magnets with a solid bar 2 inches long and then try it with two
1 inch bars that are touching and see if there is any difference.
My web address > Go to the custom 1 and 2 pages >
http://butchlafonte.50megs.com/
« Last Edit: April 22, 2005, 10:24:15 PM by Butch LaFonte »

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Butch LaFonte

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Re:Someone tell me I'm wrong on this
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 01:47:22 AM »
This Pseudo Solid idea of my is just to simple to believe, but my tests here show it works. There would have to be a ramping effect for the second piece of steel to come in and move it out. A ramping effect like the SMOT. See my old web page, bottom drawing on the custom page, listed on left of home page>
http://butchlafonte.50megs.com/
Thanks,
Butch

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Re: Pseudo Solid Rotor Element For SMOT And Other Motors
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 01:50:15 AM »
Butch,

You forgot to add in step 7 where you take away block B and get a null net gain.

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Re: Pseudo Solid Rotor Element For SMOT And Other Motors
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 01:50:15 AM »
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Butch LaFonte

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Re: To Promethus
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2005, 09:11:02 PM »
Promethus,
In step 7 the cycle is started over again and B is moved out by A coming through again.
Butch

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My most interesting design yet I feel
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2005, 06:24:04 AM »
Go to Custom 2 page on my site and see the LaFonte Pseudo Magnet motor. This is very hard to figure out unexplained, so I will do so now. There are two separate rotors that rotate on the same axis. One is drawn into the wedge shaped red permanent magnet fixture just as a steel ball is in the SMOT, but using square ferro-magnetic bars. There it stops in the sticky spot at the top of the drawing. The second rotor now is drawn into the wedge and it's bar becomes flush with the first. Now, the two bars together move the first bar out of the flux path with little to no work because the magnets see them as one solid bar and it is free to move away leaving the second bar behind in the sticky spot. The first bar then rotates around and starts the cycle again moving out the bar left behind in the sticky spot. Seeing the two rotors in 2D is a little hard to see their geometry, but maybe the side and end views will help.
Thanks,
Butch
http://butchlafonte.50megs.com/
Custom 2 page

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Offline hartiberlin

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Butch,
try to study the MFT.
Also try to state in your drawings, which picture is what view ?
Top view, side view ?
ALso if you don?t build anything and only draw pictures, maybe it would
be helpful to use a free 3D design programm like
"Blender" or something like this to put up real 3D graphics.
Regards, Stefan.

Butch LaFonte

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Stefan,
What is MFT?
Butch

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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2005, 10:11:21 PM »
Butch,
magnetic flux turbine by Dave Squires:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/free-energy/files/mft/

This will open your eyes.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2005, 12:58:34 AM »
   Hi Stephan:
   I took your link and checked it out too. While there, I became side tracked into the
other file areas. I hit the Dup Drive and noticed that files are missing. Are these gone
for reason or did you have someone else hit you? I would like to read about this drive
but as usual the stuff is not there. Just the link to where it should be. Any ideas?

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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2005, 01:32:13 AM »
The dup drive files are all still there,
but the problem is, I can not find any updates of this design on the Internet.
I have to email Prof. de Jager and see, how Hannes du Preez
have been doing lately..

Too bad, that there is no webpage about it !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2005, 03:37:15 AM »
That is very strange, Before, half the files returned a file not found error.  Now they are
all there. Oh well, Thanks

sugra

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Re: Better drawing on site, Pseudo Solid Rotor Magnet Motor
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Well, I just got an email back from Prof. Okkie de Jager, he wrote:

"Stefan

I just spoke to Hannes. The PCT Patent registration date is
4 June 2005. After this you are welcome to duplicate
his device.

Hannes thanks you for showing interest, but asked
that you wait until 4 June.
Please contact us again around 4 June for detailed
plans.

Regards
Okkie"

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Re: To Promethus
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2005, 02:45:57 PM »
Promethus,
In step 7 the cycle is started over again and B is moved out by A coming through again.
Butch

Butch,

But you never finish the cycle by the second block moving out on its own. No OU here mate. Sorry.

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Hi Butch,
I think this idea of you:

(http://butchlafonte.com/OUPROOF.jpg)

will work ! Well done.
If the first waggon will be kicked away by the second
waggon, it can roll around in a track and can then again come into the track
and kick the second waggon away and the cycle continues again.

I guess this concept has real merit ! So please go for it and
try to build it and let us know.
Thanks !

Regards, Stefan.

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Stephan:
   Thank you for contatcting De Jagger. I am just a curious mind and will always stop
and check out the roses along the way. It seems I saw something on this some time
back, just not sure if it was the same person. I am not in the market to duplicat it
at this time, just wanted to read about it and how it workded. I went to the site for
info on the MFT and just looked around a bit.
   I have figured out what is happening tho. It seems if I wait to long in an area, I loose
the link for that site and have to refresh it to find the files again.. They were there all
the time, just this browser didn't work right. I am using Linux (Xandros) and it is equiped
with Mozilla which may be the cause.
   Anyhow thanks again.

SG 6 pole is comming along great, optics work great so guess I will start taking pictures
of it and start sharing with the forum soon.

Sugra

 

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