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Author Topic: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out  (Read 361132 times)

dieter

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BTW Jack, another method to create an ac source is: get a high voltage supply, eg. a joule thief or so, then use a sparkgap and a cap to periodicly load a coil with impulses. By the capacity you define, how fast the cap fills, by the sparkgap, at which voltage the spark will jump. 1mm is 1000 Volt. Id suggest eg. 0.5mm. The coil will be loaded for a moment and then the backemf will cause a negative impulse, so this is kind of AC, might be smoothed with some caps. In Theory, with a 400vDc gap you may create 220V ac, the Hertz defined by the capacitor. The backspark by the back emf should be blocked/utilized...


Well, just another idea for quick, cheap onboard AC. Only some wire and caps required. HV source may be anything, even a weather balloon on a thin wire, or a Neon transformer, MOT, insect killer...

Farmhand

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I see you and your ilk on these forums as, at best bullies...who cannot resist the compulsion to dominate all discussion with a superior attitude...I'm sure others besides myself and member 'dieter' can see it also.

At worst, you are here to disrupt all relevant topics.

Not a good choice...but your output needs no scopes or gauges to measure...it is what it is.

Now wood be a good time play on everyone's sympathies with your ill health...again.

As if you are the only one with problems.

I posted that stem cell break through info here for a reason...interesting how you didn't see how it would apply to your health condition...just an observation.

Regards...

Wow you insult me "call me dense" then when I react you call me a bully, OMG hilarious. Bully is a word children use.

And I was already aware of the stem cell research on problems relating to mine, you think I am ignorant now, you think you know all and need to tell me about it. I never seek sympathy, only understanding that I can not always experiment when I wish. Many of us have health problems and are restricted by them, do they all seek sympathy when stating they have issues. I have a visit with the neurosurgeon next week. Maybe he will fix me again maybe he won't I don't decide the treatment they offer, I only decide if I accept it.

You are the "bully" friend not I and if you want to get personal come to my house and we will see who asks for sympathy, grot. I might be suffering great pain but I can still look after myself.

So where is all the free energy here, I have not posted or "interfered". What happened ?

You know what, I am just about through with trying to get along here. In my honest opinion all the so called "naysayers"/opinion sayers should consider stop posting. Because it is pointless to try to bring logic to most conversations. Let the zealots have the asylum I say.

To you zealots anyone with a differing opinion is a paid shill, it's a pathetic joke.

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jbignes5

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 I think we know who are the distractors here. They persist till the thread is dead. You can tell who they are. Just goto their profile and check their posts. If it is all negative posts then you will know if they are a paid shill or not.
 I believe there is a presence here from another forum and they are compensated for disrupting the flow and direction we are going. The "other forum" is a shill  farm and selling platform designed to milk our community to death.
 You can look at anyones profile and check their previous posts. You can tell by those posts weather they are working for our goal or are highly against this direction we are going in. Check both post quality and number of threads they are posting in to determine what their goal is here on OU.com
 If they are just reading from the holy book of everything then it will be very obvious. Then just ignore them. Do not respond to them and if it is your thread then take control and ask Stephan to remove them if you feel they are not contributing to your thread.


 Yes there is a fine line to censorship but keeping control of your thread should be a priority as well.


 If you are posting to the thread then maybe you should think about what the threads aim is.


 There is some very credible information coming out about certain people who do things on one board and change  entirely on another board. Research the poster on another forum and see how they have behaved there. Also see who has booths at the other forum's paid events. They are more likely to protect an investment with these tactics then if they were doing this for a hobby or for pure research.


  The other forum is a sales platform and if we are not based on that then we are a threat to their income stream. Recognize who you are affiliated with and recognize who the distractors are affiliated with. It's not hard to figure this out.




Cap-Z-ro

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Wow you insult me "call me dense" then when I react you call me a bully, OMG hilarious. Bully is a word children use.

And I was already aware of the stem cell research on problems relating to mine, you think I am ignorant now, you think you know all and need to tell me about it. I never seek sympathy, only understanding that I can not always experiment when I wish. Many of us have health problems and are restricted by them, do they all seek sympathy when stating they have issues. I have a visit with the neurosurgeon next week. Maybe he will fix me again maybe he won't I don't decide the treatment they offer, I only decide if I accept it.

You are the "bully" friend not I and if you want to get personal come to my house and we will see who asks for sympathy, grot. I might be suffering great pain but I can still look after myself.


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Boy, he must think everybody here is "dense".

You will notice that he didn't see fit to include the quote where he alleges that i called him "dense".

And of course the reason for that omission is simply that he is lying.

I never did call him 'dense'...I actually said that I couldn't believe he was so dense that he could not grasp a simple concept.

In other words, I was calling attention to the fact that he was intentionally not addressing the issue I had raised....which by the way was not prefaced with any type of "insult".

Twisting words to gain an upper hand on a forum such as this under those circumstances is at best dishonest, and at worst indicative of a paid distractor.

i never called this guy out...it was he who apparently saw himself in my description of naysayers and shills, and thought he'd have a go at me.

Also, closing his post with a veiled threat of physical violence is also very telling.

The rest of his rant is just as insincere, and not worth wasting any more of my time on.

Regards...

 

Farmhand

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Hilarious ...

Cap-Z-ro

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And there you have it...a classic example of painting ones self into a corner with lies.

I certainly hope the guy really is a shill...I'd hate to think this is the end result of a bad ego trip.

Regards...

ramset

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A classic example.......?
 
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Google

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People fou ;D ;D ;Dght and the thread died a choking death. Why choke threads like this. Lol

Hope

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How is this topic posted here,  it is not a built working device showing COP > 1.  Moderator please move this to correct board.

dieter

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Ramset,


bit late, but: i totally agree.


Hope,


And while they're at it, they may also move all other topics to other boards when COP >1 was not verified.  :)

dieter

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Hope,


sorry, I came here trough an other forum subsection, the thread must be alias-linked somehow. So, yes, probably not enough proof for applying. A Killawatt Meter isn't saying much, as we know.


Regards


Jack Noskills

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Just a recap, did these experiments:


1. watt meter and one normal 1:1 trafo, no load meter showed maybe about 5 watts. With load it showed about 25-30 watts, don't recall exactly.
2. Added second 1:1, just two trafos in series. Now little less light, meter readings were about the same.
3. Connected second trafo as explained. Now watt meter did not show any difference whether there was load or not. Amount of light was about the same as in test 2.
4. Removed first trafo and used trafo connected as explained here. Same results as in case 3, but now a bit more light because less losses.


So, tests 1 and 2 confirms that my watt meter was adequate.


Now we know that voltage is dropped by 50% and current is doubled when trafo is connected as shown. Looking at test 3, nothing changes from watt meter point of view, it still sees just one trafo connected to it. Why it does not see power taken from the second trafo ?


This is very simple thing to do and measure it. I don't have any tools to measure anything so this is the end of the road for me, for now. Anyone with scope can play with this if suitable 1:1 trafo is available for testing.




wistiti

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Sorry to ask but when you say:
4. Removed first trafo and used trafo connected as explained here. Same results as in case 3, but now a bit more light because less losses.
What you meen? What is the schematic of your best result? Does it use only one isolation transformer insted of 2?
Thank you! :)

Jack Noskills

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Sorry to ask but when you say:
4. Removed first trafo and used trafo connected as explained here. Same results as in case 3, but now a bit more light because less losses.
What you meen? What is the schematic of your best result? Does it use only one isolation transformer insted of 2?
Thank you! :)


In test 4 I used only 1 trafo connected as autotransformer. If you look at the pics in page 1 of this thread you will see schematic. It is simply two equal coils connected in series and load taken from the middle. Winding direction does not matter, but they have to be in same direction so use either CW/CW or CCW/CCW.


Purpose of test 3 was simply to isolate from the mains to be more safe to test.

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