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Author Topic: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out  (Read 250455 times)

Offline Farmhand

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All naysaying accomplishes is to stifle free thinking.

Can't you see that ?

You discourage creative thought of other tinkerers with negativity.

Let people find their own way, they may stumble on to something along the way.

Nobody is getting scammed by this concept, so just allow people time and space to dream think build.

Its not that hard...all you have to do is be silent and let things unfold in a natural spontaneous way.

Who knows, you may see something that takes you in the right direction.

But that can't happen when you are making noise and not listening.

Regards...

Your opinion is that it is naysaying. My opinion is that it is saying take another look I think you might be overlooking something. When things go awry is when the claimant replies by saying things like "I know it is OU I don't need to measure it", or "stay out naysayer you are a government shill" when all the person wants to do is help. 

I didn't enter this thread until today. But common sense told me when I read the first page that Jack had no idea if it was OU or not.

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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I am finding extremely hard to believe you are too dense to understand what I am saying.

I will leave it at that Regards...



Offline Farmhand

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I am finding extremely hard to believe you are too dense to understand what I am saying.

I will leave it at that Regards...

Listen here you grot, I do not care what you believe. And I do know what you are saying. But I disagree.

You don't get to call me "dense" and leave it at that. Ill turn that right back at you and say the exact same thing back to you. I am finding extremely hard to believe you are too dense to understand what I am saying.

Now we can both leave it at that.

Regards

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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I see you and your ilk on these forums as, at best bullies...who cannot resist the compulsion to dominate all discussion with a superior attitude...I'm sure others besides myself and member 'dieter' can see it also.

At worst, you are here to disrupt all relevant topics.

Not a good choice...but your output needs no scopes or gauges to measure...it is what it is.

Now wood be a good time play on everyone's sympathies with your ill health...again.

As if you are the only one with problems.

I posted that stem cell break through info here for a reason...interesting how you didn't see how it would apply to your health condition...just an observation.

Regards...



Offline Jack Noskills

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I have a questions for experts:


Why the input light had not light or heat while the output light had light and heat ?


Why the input light did not change a bit when I connected output light ?


Why my watt meter did not notice anything when load was connected ?


First I used two trafos, just to isolate the second one. It behaved the same way, little less output though because of losses in the first trafo. Then I changed to one trafo setup.


Do I really need some power analyser to verify if this is really OU or not ? Doesn't the lights tell absolutely anything ?


I also had a self made trafo in which I could control turns ratio, 2:6, 3:6, 4:5 and 4:4. Only 4:4 gave the effect, all other combinations were such that they affected the source.


Condition number one for any OU device from Don Smith, output must not affect input. And this is what I got here.

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Offline e2matrix

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Here is just the latest reason for the so called experts in a particular field to mind their own business and stick to their own research and leave the "ignorant and the uneducated" be.

" Discovered by accident

As to the new method, it was pretty much discovered by accident. According to the Boston Globe:

Dr. Charles Vacanti is an unlikely protagonist for one of the most startling scientific discoveries in years.

The genial 63-year-old anesthesiologist who left stem cell scientists shaking their heads in wonder and puzzlement last week, with the discovery that a simple acid bath could be used to generate powerful stem cells, doesn't even have a PhD.

Vacanti is an accomplished tissue engineer and the chairman of the Anesthesiology Department at Brigham and Women's Hospital, but he's a virtual outsider to the highly competitive and fast-moving stem cell field. ...

His discovery is a reminder that as specialized as science is, sometimes, a little ignorance may be a virtue. A stem-cell expert would probably never have even bothered to try the experiment Vacanti has been pursuing, on and off, since the late 1990s."Learn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/043843_stem_cells_scientific_breakthrough_pluripotency.html#ixzz2syk6Ekbx 
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I rest my case...again...for the umpteenth time.

But some people just don't seem to get it, and likely never will...that most significant advancements in a particular field are 'discovered by accident'.

Regards...And your next post: 

All naysaying accomplishes is to stifle free thinking.

Can't you see that ?

You discourage creative thought of other tinkerers with negativity.

Let people find their own way, they may stumble on to something along the way.

Nobody is getting scammed by this concept, so just allow people time and space to dream think build.

Its not that hard...all you have to do is be silent and let things unfold in a natural spontaneous way.

Who knows, you may see something that takes you in the right direction.

But that can't happen when you are making noise and not listening.

Regards...
YES!!!!!!!!   This should be made a STICKY!    Agree 100%
This is not just aimed at Farmhand but is valuable food for thought for everyone.   

Offline Jack Noskills

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Be aware that forums are full of builders whose only purpose is to build and show that something does not work. This is to prevent others trying, why bother because it does not work. You can easily spot these people. Typically they have done lots of builds, maybe some youtube videos, are confident and seem to have knowledge. Some are arrogant while others are seemingly helpful. It must be a full day job building such things.
Would I make hundreds of builds and seeing that nothing works, write about it in forums just for the fun of it ? Nope, because there is no fun in a failure. But if you are getting paid for it, then yes, lots of fun indeed.


How to fight against it ? Be skeptic also when you see something that does not work. Another typical case is that you see a video that shows some device actually working and then you get a schematic full of electronic parts. Then honest peole rush in to build. It will never work. There should always be explanation what is supposedly going on in the device and if the device is complex there should be scope shots from relevant parts.


I have done many tests that have failed. Learned from failure but never posted anything about a failed test. I am not getting paid for failures but I do get a good feeling from a success.


And there are no such things as magnetic domain flipping or field lines occurring in the core when coil is energized. That is one of the finest piece of disinformation there is. When people realize that it is actually a sinewave that runs in the core, a multitude of them depending on the drive signal, then you can build a working OU device.


It is pity that we can only measure electrical energy and not magnetic energy. Magnetic energy is the root of all energy, electrical energy created by magnetic energy is merely a residue. If we could measure also magnetic energy then every transformer would be OU. Input is electrical energy, it creates magnetic energy which in turn creates electrical energy in all coils that are in the path of magnetic energy. Electric energy created in the secondary coil does the same thing. So there is one piece of electrical input, two pieces of magnetic energy output and two pieces of electrical energy output. Did not count harmonics here which get created in the process. You can see this happening in the scope shots of a test report in this thread. There were lots of harmonics visible at higher frequencies. Where did they came from if input signal was only 50 Hz ?


So why we stupid people keep on making systems that are such where all energy is wasted inside the transformer core ?

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Offline forest

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All I can say is that I 100% agree  :D  I suspect also that Lenz effect is purely magnetic because that comply with Newton laws better then current view of energy converted to magnetic field and then to electric in secondary.

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So why we stupid people keep on making systems that are such where all energy is wasted inside the transformer core ?
Maybe you should learn how perform proper measurements before calling people stupid  ;)


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Offline dieter

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Jack, yeah, the naysayers... some of them just repeat their arguments, so you have to skip their replies, unless you want to waste time. But we also need them to some degree, otherwise we'd become kind of a religous trend.


There is a possibility you have to consider: the device may swinig back to mains in a 90,degree out of phase way and cause voltage and current pass the first bulb by one by one and thetefor miss to light it. I hate to say that, but this at least a possibility. The harmonics I guess come from the recursive 2:1 coupling of the shortened secondary.


Try to use a coupling after the wattmeter, like: transform to 12vdc, use a inverter to get mains-like source. Now the wattmeter should read correctly. Does the effect persist?


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BTW Vasik, he's right, conventional Transformers are lossy, getting warm even without a load.

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Offline Jack Noskills

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Yes, voltage and current being out of phase is indeed a possibility.


Sorry, I don't have proper gear to do the test you suggest.

Offline dieter

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If your device works with a non perfect AC source, just take a car battery, and make it produce some simple ac, eg. with a mechanical alternator system, using a little dc motor and brushes. Then you'll see how fast the battery decharges, compared to when the battery is used directly with the bulb, at the same brightness.

Offline poynt99

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I have a questions for experts:


Why the input light had not light or heat while the output light had light and heat ?
What circuit does this refer to?

If I was to presume it is some circuit with a series "input" bulb, and a shunt "output" bulb, then this question has already been answered in gotoluc's recent thread, as well as several years ago by me in response to one of Luc's experiments.

It seems apparent from your question that you have not yet attempted to answer this yourself. The answer is as simple as can be. Draw it out and analyze it yourself. There is no mystery about this.

Offline dieter

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I wouldn't say that. There is still the recursive tail chaser. And actually, who's to say everything about induction is already explored. Yeah, Galileo was sued for witchcraft, but did he give a darn about it?
I believe there's lots more to explore and it might be a key moment for mankind, to finally get rid of the economical dogmata of science and proceed in evolution.

 

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