Wilby,
 I have sent a message to Hartiberlin (Stefan) about your conduct.
 
                                                                     Johnny

whatever...
i'm curious about leibniz now though...  i mean this is a guy who according to the wiki:

Leibniz made major contributions to physics and technology, and anticipated notions that surfaced much later in philosophy, probability theory, biology, medicine, geology, psychology, linguistics, and information science. He wrote works on philosophy, politics, law, ethics, theology, history, and philology. Leibniz's contributions to this vast array of subjects were scattered in various learned journals, in tens of thousands of letters

tens of THOUSANDS of letters... he designed wind-driven propellers and water pumps, mining machines to extract ore, hydraulic presses, lamps, submarines, clocks, etc. and yet all he wrote about bessler's amazing and world changing wheel was what amounts to a crappy 'celebrity endorsement'.

seriously?

and why would bessler make his maid swear this oath?

   @all,
 I think this is when we start using Occams Razor. This means that a ximple answer is most likely correct.
 I have read some of Besslers writings on bw dot com. In the DT, he was describing the 12 foot wheel at Kassel with the mechanics of Mt 20.

         Johnny

The problem with the water pump idea is that any water displaced by the moving weight is exactly the same as the movement of the weight.
So no matter how small you break the steps down, it's still the same and will not work.

If I start another thread are you gonna do the same thing again or can you restrain your ME ME ME ME ME ness ?

I will not bore anyone with what I'm thinking...I will SHOW the world what I am THINKING !  Where everyone else ( except for Bessler ) has failed I will succeed and we will see who has made a career out of failure and leading others into nothing . I will gladly publish the reasons Bessler attributed his success to God ( and not just simple mechanics or himself ). You will be able to either build or purchase this device . I still have not built anything but my understanding of the device is complete ... and I have most of the materials right here at home .

P.S. I'm just adding this for S&G . Because regardless of the giant brains over at BW forum , I being considered a newb and a troll myself will prove them all to be of inferior insight and/or intellect and in due time (less than ten years!) .
Kaine aka tasier79 @ BW forum wrote to johnny874 :
Dear troll
 
 Although you believe you have some personal gift and understanding of Besslers wheel, let me assure you that you do not. Although your infantile attempts at solving this problem are expected from a beginner, most  beginners wouldn't be delusional enough to believe that they alone have a unique understanding of gravity that defies the laws of physics.
 Whatever your personal grievances you believe you have with certain well respected members of this forum exist only in your head. You are your own worst enemy.
 Seek help
 Yours Sincerely
 Kaine

Me again: This is a typical  "holier than thou and I'm a good judge " attitude expressed in various ways by nearly everyone on that forum . What they really hope for ( in their stale and desperate souls ) is that some newb WILL (because they are fresh out of ideas)  come along and out of a need to fit in will dump the simple and ingenious design ( or at least some semblance of it ) into their laps . I really would much rather sleep with dogs and fleas than try to fit in with that group of guys . I encourage anyone to not even try , all of the top slots are taken by the most anal retentive persons one could imagine .

I will not bore anyone with what I'm thinking...I will SHOW the world what I am THINKING !  Where everyone else ( except for Bessler ) has failed I will succeed and we will see who has made a career out of failure and leading others into nothing . I will gladly publish the reasons Bessler attributed his success to God ( and not just simple mechanics or himself ). You will be able to either build or purchase this device . I still have not built anything but my understanding of the device is complete ... and I have most of the materials right here at home .

P.S. I'm just adding this for S&G . Because regardless of the giant brains over at BW forum , I being considered a newb and a troll myself will prove them all to be of inferior insight and/or intellect and in due time (less than ten years!) .
Kaine aka tasier79 @ BW forum wrote to johnny874 :
Dear troll
 
 Although you believe you have some personal gift and understanding of Besslers wheel, let me assure you that you do not. Although your infantile attempts at solving this problem are expected from a beginner, most  beginners wouldn't be delusional enough to believe that they alone have a unique understanding of gravity that defies the laws of physics.
 Whatever your personal grievances you believe you have with certain well respected members of this forum exist only in your head. You are your own worst enemy.
 Seek help
 Yours Sincerely
 Kaine

Me again: This is a typical  "holier than thou and I'm a good judge " attitude expressed in various ways by nearly everyone on that forum . What they really hope for ( in their stale and desperate souls ) is that some newb WILL (because they are fresh out of ideas)  come along and out of a need to fit in will dump the simple and ingenious design ( or at least some semblance of it ) into their laps . I really would much rather sleep with dogs and fleas than try to fit in with that group of guys . I encourage anyone to not even try , all of the top slots are taken by the most anal retentive persons one could imagine .

  Christo,
 If you notice, I didn't engage him any more than necessary. I think also where I showed Bessler's Apologia Poetica does describe different things in what I am pursuing, I have their attention. Unlike you, I have stated my case if that is what you would want to call it.
 Your rants would do nothing but discredit Bessler and alternative energy.
 
 @All, if you read some of the thread I posted a link to, you will see where i have referenced the Apologia Poetica and how it describes certain aspects of the design I have been working on. And as I posted, to demonstarte that bessler's claims are credible, I would need to do a period build which will take more time than if I were just trying to prove a point.
 
                                                                                       Jim

Your rants would do nothing but discredit Bessler and alternative energy.

We'll see about that . Maybe Tasier79 was right about you . You think you have great and superior ideas . You think that you are a hero . You think you can trash talk everyone and promote your own ideas . Build something hero , then run your pie hole .