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Author Topic: Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .  (Read 63279 times)

Offline johnny874

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Possible. I have not been able to see the bottom, very well. I know the pendulums themselves have magnets on them. Still lost with the central spring. Were does that energy transfer go? The overhead magnet is only connected to the  spring and following overhead magnet...

  acer,
 have taken a closer look at the thing. the central spring seems to only work with the magnets above the bearing.
 There is a tab/spring the bearing rolls over which causes the pendulum to swing. Apparently the magnet on top is supposed to tilt the central spring in that direction. Then the swinging of the pendulums add a different torsion to control the tilt of the ebarings track.
 It seems the pendulums are connected through non-local behavior. This simply means that as a horshoe magnet drops because the bearing just rolled over it's tab and that the next pendulum will swing in the opposite direction because it's effected by the magnet which seems to pull it down with it. Of course, if 2 pendulums are swing away from each other, does this increas3ed motion equal to sufficient force to tilt the bearing's track in that direction ?
 What you should take a close look at is where the ebaring is on it's track while the 2 pendulums are swinging in opposite directions. The bearing is basically over one and rolling towards the other. Could be how the tilt is maintained.
 Still, think my critics could have made these observations. Will need to stay off line, kind of tired of being bad mouthed for having schooling in engineering.

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Curious how long did you school for? Also what type of engineering? I'm on my second year of mechanical engineering. Personally they have shown me little I haven't already learned myself prior. Waste of money.....for a piece of paper. Anyways I wasn't trying to yell at you, I just couldn't see how you didn't see how it was defying thermodynamics, and you were to concerned with newton's laws.....sorry

Offline murmel

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is it not this magnets that make the pendulums swing ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=sadl0Xl31JM&feature=endscreen

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Offline Vinnystvincent

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Yes the mags are pushing and pulling.
I tried this a long time ago and it seems like you can only get around 10 minutes of moving before it finds a sweet spot to settle into.

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Curious how long did you school for? Also what type of engineering? I'm on my second year of mechanical engineering. Personally they have shown me little I haven't already learned myself prior. Waste of money.....for a piece of paper. Anyways I wasn't trying to yell at you, I just couldn't see how you didn't see how it was defying thermodynamics, and you were to concerned with newton's laws.....sorry

  propulsion engineering. I guess with me, I got used to looking at how the system functioned as a whole.
take4 out one piece of the system and it would quit working. you know, like the boilers, the steam driven turbines, the steam driven pumps, it all worked together.

murmel, if you watch closely, the pendulums have a counter weight that the horse shoe magnet also pulls down with it.

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Offline ace569er

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I uploading my model here;
http://www.overunity.com/1440/finsruds-perpetuum-mobile/new/#new
If anyone is interested in improving it.

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Though this is just an educated guess....I think the center pendulum is moved by the magnet that tilts the spring as well as the balls weight on the tilted wheel putting pressure on the spring(big one). Also the 3 pendulums are off set to the same side as the very large magnet, on them, is offset on. I think this helps push the center pendulum. If I arrange all repelling magnets in the position shown. Then stop it and just touch it it want to go in that pattern about 2-7 rotations. if you kick it with just one of the three off sets you can keep it going around. I think this is at least somewhat close to what makes the center pendulum move. Sadly everything relys on everything else to run, in my option. so it is hard to test, with a controlled pendulum to push it. yet alone the ball and spring factor. Unless it is completely  built. So I hope this model helps a working replication to be made. Because I want one!!!!!!!!

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