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Author Topic: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower  (Read 116793 times)

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #135 on: August 11, 2014, 06:43:14 AM »
Here is my dissection. one big jpeg

Grum, you may find this painful, but I think you have some salvaging to do, if not total makeover.

http://www.filedropper.com/dissection

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2014, 05:21:45 AM »
Even if one could build a perfect system complete with magnetic bearings, 96% efficient motor/gen set, vacuum, and tuned RPM of total system to individual motor/gen phase it doesn't matter how many pulleys or flywheels you add. What a flywheel provides in mechanical capacitance requires in energetic exertion to gain the purchase of x ft/lbs over x duration. In other words all a flywheel in an electrical motor/gen set buys you is time, just like in an internal combustion engine. And to address the pulley fantasies that I have seen pop up, just stop. FT/LB! FT/LB! FT/LB! all a pulley grants your is more feet for less pounds!

 Notice you rarely see someone willing to put their energy device in a video for 2.5 hrs running a load in corner of a white washed garage with no conduits what so ever? I would watch every minute. But it won't be there because as far as I can see there are some very simple laws being looked over in every electromechanical "OU" device out of hope which gives way to human delusion. The greatest energy delusion, one that I have fallen into twice is the idea that parametric oscillation in some way shape or form is representing un-exerted energy or free balance. THAT IS ALL A CHAS CAMPBELL machine is. @tinman I commend you for pointing out the fact for people on parametric oscillation. In the Chas Campbell case, someone go build a 165 KW(220HP)(what a good automobile needs) version then hook it up to a 150KW AC motor and let me know how long it drives the car for before the flywheel can't buy it more time after you start it with a wall plug?

Not a neigh sayer, just probably want this more than you.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2015, 12:01:59 AM »
Hi All,
I'm new here and did not read the whole thread. I coincidently stumbled over one effect I noticed on my very old lathe.
Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCqqgc437I
This is definitely a flywheel effect. I had taken out the motor and checked it very precisely, it's just a normal induktion motor. You can read the amperage
on the meter (bit hard to see but possible). I noticed the effect when I was working on the machine just at higher speed, strangewise the rpm went up under load. Then I checked the amperage - it went down. It does not happen when I put the load on the outside of the chuck jaw, only when I brake it down in the middle. The bearings are old but in good condition, it makes no sense to me that the the wood could release them.
Thoughts are welcome...
Abt

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2015, 12:01:59 AM »
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Offline gyulasun

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #138 on: February 02, 2015, 12:28:28 PM »
Hello Abt,

I think the speed up of the lathe motor happens because when you brake the chuck on its middle (at the axle) part  you give a certain lifting force to the whole chuck, reducing its actural weigth a little so the motor senses less drag due to the less weight of the rotated chuck.

When you break the chuck on its outside jaw, the lifting force is missing but you now create an extra sideway force which causes an extra drag on the motor by actually hampering its rotation.

A friend of mine added: that is a babbitt bearing headstock as you can tell by the little covers where you put oil in... and belt drive. The force from the belt is down so he is lifting the shaft up, removing the downward force against the babbitt.
He would get somewhat the same effect when taking a cut as the material tried to ride upwards on the tool bit.

Gyula


Hi All,
I'm new here and did not read the whole thread. I coincidently stumbled over one effect I noticed on my very old lathe.
Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCqqgc437I
This is definitely a flywheel effect. I had taken out the motor and checked it very precisely, it's just a normal induktion motor. You can read the amperage
on the meter (bit hard to see but possible). I noticed the effect when I was working on the machine just at higher speed, strangewise the rpm went up under load. Then I checked the amperage - it went down. It does not happen when I put the load on the outside of the chuck jaw, only when I brake it down in the middle. The bearings are old but in good condition, it makes no sense to me that the the wood could release them.
Thoughts are welcome...
Abt

Offline mscoffman

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #139 on: February 02, 2015, 01:23:46 PM »
Guys:

Satellites don't use flywheels for power.  If somebody believes that they should task themselves to learn about what they are really used for.

MileHigh
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As far as I know this is correct. They are called reaction wheels. They allow precise repointing of the spacecraft around it's cg without using up any propellant.
Unfortunately, they are not very mechanically reliable. Batteries are much better. Space reaction wheel spin down as they do because spacecraft pointing is pretty
important to antenna alignment during the ecliptic time when they don't receive energy from solar panels.

 

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #139 on: February 02, 2015, 01:23:46 PM »
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Offline Abt

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #140 on: February 02, 2015, 09:14:29 PM »
Hello Abt,

I think the speed up of the lathe motor happens because when you brake the chuck on its middle (at the axle) part  you give a certain lifting force to the whole chuck, reducing its actural weigth a little so the motor senses less drag due to the less weight of the rotated chuck.

When you break the chuck on its outside jaw, the lifting force is missing but you now create an extra sideway force which causes an extra drag on the motor by actually hampering its rotation.

A friend of mine added: that is a babbitt bearing headstock as you can tell by the little covers where you put oil in... and belt drive. The force from the belt is down so he is lifting the shaft up, removing the downward force against the babbitt.
He would get somewhat the same effect when taking a cut as the material tried to ride upwards on the tool bit.

Gyula

Hello Gyula,
thank you for your thoughts.
I was thinking in the same direction but: I can brake the chuck jaw from top too and see the same effect. Your explanation might be partly right as the acceleration is a wee bit stronger when I brake it from bottom or sidewise but is still there when don from top side. More ideas?
Thanks
Abt

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2015, 12:46:55 PM »
Hi Abt,

Well, I still think that the belt drive exerts a pulling force onto the shaft on the left hand side end (the chuck is on the right hand side end) and this tension (the vertical component of the force from the belt drive) is reduced when you start pushing down the end of the shaft where the chuck is. This way you kind of compensate for the tension force created by the pull force component of the belt drive. Here I suppose the belt drive pulls downwards or sidewise down at the left hand side of the shaft. 
If you could exert a push with the wood onto the shaft (where the chuck is) from the opposite angle the bell drive is actually positioned  i.e. 180 degree with respect to the pulling direction of the belt drive) then you would receive the smallest current draw possible I think, provided you exert similar pushing force like the actual pulling force that the belt exerts on the shaft.

I do not think the speed up effect comes from any motor anomaly.

Gyula

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2015, 12:46:55 PM »
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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2015, 07:00:31 PM »
Use Unbalanced Cylinders as in the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier.

Go to the Milkovic thread (search using 12 times) for details.

 

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