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Author Topic: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower  (Read 116321 times)

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2014, 08:45:07 PM »
So the trick of oscillating the pulley tension is called the aspen effect ??

I'm also designing a kinetic pulser mechanism.

Nice flywheels, they seem to turn nicely on the frame, you got those from scrapyard ?

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #121 on: July 07, 2014, 08:59:19 PM »
I only want to mention , that a Russian patent exists on this technology:
http://www.freepatent.ru/patents/2339844

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #122 on: July 07, 2014, 09:19:51 PM »
So the trick of oscillating the pulley tension is called the aspen effect ??

I'm also designing a kinetic pulser mechanism.

Nice flywheels, they seem to turn nicely on the frame, you got those from scrapyard ?

Dear ARMCORTEX.

No Harold Aspden discovered this......http://www.haroldaspden.com/lectures/30.htm

There might be something to his discovery !! ;)

The flywheels are borrowed from a couple of my Vintage Gas engines ( Gas in this case meaning Town Gas NOT Gasoline. )

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=robinson+x+type+gas+engine&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LfK6U479F-vT7AainIHwCQ&ved=0CEEQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=943

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #122 on: July 07, 2014, 09:19:51 PM »
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #123 on: July 07, 2014, 10:13:40 PM »
I call this process ''smacking of the b****'' effect

I still dont know if the pulsing system should be isolated or not, or in the same system as the bigger wheel.

Ideally both wheels should have most their mass @ the rim, my smaller wheel is made up of a few solenoids @ the rim and I select appropriate timing via a bit of wizardry.

This is he technique I wanna try.

I provide energy to motor, wich is about 80% efficient, I load up a flywheel and have some pulse impact via solenoid.

Solenoid can stick out 10mm in 3 ms, little energy, but metal cap has lots of stenght and transfer much energy very quickly.

This is type of trick that manet cant perform, it dont have all that unstoppable kinetic energy stored it, its like full capacitor zero impedance source

Tangantially... This is important. Ive seen people with pulse motors but force is not tangantial.

Some people say magnets are good pulsing mechanism too, but you need shielding and everything, cost about the same.

Apparently adding a little faster pulse to something thats already accelerating gives OU energy... Anyways, claims from resonant fractals are quite vague and lack a bit of substance, buts its starting point for design ideas.


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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2014, 05:46:13 AM »
So I researched this ''aspden effect'', not really  any clues.

But Chas opened to the door.

Now, we must play games with what I call ''eccentric kinetic transistor''.

Basicly a motor or flywheel system can lock itself to a system by turning a eccentric reflector that has a bearing @ the tip, thus tensionning the pulley.

Create a free-run/ connect scenario.

Use the ''smack my b*****'' up effect

I can almost see the puzzle unraveling now.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2014, 05:46:13 AM »
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2014, 04:23:06 PM »
I only want to mention , that a Russian patent exists on this technology:
http://www.freepatent.ru/patents/2339844
This is dated March 2007. It won't stand up. I am pretty certain that Chas Campbell was long before that. I cannot find any patents from Ivan Skibitskiy in either the US or the EPO, and so, even if his Russian patent stands up, I cannot see that he will have protection in Europe or the USA.


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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #126 on: July 09, 2014, 08:08:11 AM »
Oscillate ''pulley'' tension...Do not couple to rightly, Isolate load by time delay.

It is a ''new'' idea, many incorrect replicas.


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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #127 on: July 10, 2014, 02:44:28 PM »
This is dated March 2007. It won't stand up. I am pretty certain that Chas Campbell was long before that. I cannot find any patents from Ivan Skibitskiy in either the US or the EPO, and so, even if his Russian patent stands up, I cannot see that he will have protection in Europe or the USA.


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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »
Dear All.

I present a short video of our drive motor being connected to a run capacitor of twice the normal value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cev0Z9rKvag

Any suggestions as to what might be happening ??

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2014, 12:05:42 AM »
I had a similar thing happen with my split phase induction motor, my motor has two windings the same and the capacitor is a
start/run capacitor which stays in series with one of the windings.

It was a long time ago and I was connecting capacitors in different ways when it happened.

I think the phases are fighting each other when that happens. And basically the motor shaft gets almost stopped dead for a short
time before being powered again causing the belt to be driven in a stop start kind of way which makes it flap and slap.

When I did it the effect was quite violent, I wish I could remember exactly how I connected the capacitors but I cannot and I didn't
record it as it was unwanted.

Did you disconnect the start capacitor before connecting the run cap or does the motor do that itself. Or is it a spit phase motor
and not a start then run motor.

Some motors are designed so that the "start" capacitor remains in place and becomes the run capacitor. If the two windings are
identical it can be used as a motor with a permanently connected capacitor which acts as the start and the run capacitor.

If a start capacitor is used to get a difference of phase in the currents in the windings then when the motor is up to speed that
entire winding can be disconnected and the motor will run on one winding.

The start and run capacitors should go on the same winding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor

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Permanent-split capacitor motor[edit]
Another variation is the permanent-split capacitor (PSC) motor (also known as a capacitor start and run motor).[19] This motor operates similarly to the capacitor-start motor described above, but there is no centrifugal starting switch,[19] and what correspond to the "start" windings (second windings) are permanently connected to the power source (through a run capacitor), along with the run windings.[19] PSC motors are frequently used in air handlers, blowers, and fans (including ceiling fans) and other cases where variable speeds are desired.

A capacitor that ranges from 1 to 100 microfarads is connected in series with the start (auxiliary) winding and remains in the circuit during the entire run cycle.[19] The start and run windings are identical in a reversible motor,[19] and reverse motion can be achieved by reversing the wiring of the 2 windings,[19] causing the other winding to be connected through the capacitor, and therefore act as the "start" winding. Non-reversible motors have smaller, thinner start windings, similar to non-reversible split phase motors. By changing taps on the running winding but keeping the load constant, the motor can be made to run at different speeds.

Three-phase motors can be converted to PSC motors by making common two windings and connecting the third via a capacitor to act as a start winding. However, the power rating needs to be at least 50% larger than for a comparable single-phase motor due to an unused winding.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #130 on: July 13, 2014, 03:08:59 AM »
Dear All.

I present a short video of our drive motor being connected to a run capacitor of twice the normal value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cev0Z9rKvag

Any suggestions as to what might be happening ??

Cheers Grum.
Hi Grum
The caps are sized to split the single phase to close as possable to 90*,so as you have 2 phases. By increasing the cap size,you have thrown the second phase out,and now i would say that the motor is trying to reverse on that second phase,due to angle change of the second phase. This is why the belt is flapping around,and you are drawing much more power.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #131 on: July 13, 2014, 03:12:56 AM »
@ Grum

If you have a heap of cap's close to the original value,try different combination's,and you will be able to drop the power draw of the motor at loaded/running speed,as these cheap motors are made to a !close enough/good enough! cap value. They can be tuned to a much better cap value.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #132 on: July 13, 2014, 03:48:27 AM »
GRUM, you must choose.

The pulse by belt tension or mismatch starting cap.

Why do you think both makes sense ?

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #133 on: July 13, 2014, 07:27:16 AM »
Using the wrong cap is a step backward's-look at the power input increase  :o
I would go with an off set center on the pully,with counter ballance. This will cause the belt to go tight and loose (drive/no drive) every revolution,without adding to the power consumption.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #134 on: August 09, 2014, 08:59:53 PM »
Dear All.

A rather "Heath Robinson" attempt at the Harold Aspden effect !!  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m85GS5APXfk

Cheers Grum.

 

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