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Author Topic: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower  (Read 116791 times)

Offline Rafael Ti

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 12:20:11 PM »
Wheels are bad batteries. Friction will stop them in a few seconds.
A well tuned good quality bicycle wheel can free-spin for 20 minutes or more and it weights only 1kg. So... could 1000kg wheel spin for 20.000 minutes?

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 06:06:10 PM »
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 10:25:01 PM »
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2013, 05:29:31 PM »

1) Belt/Pulley loss: the energy-transfer in the diagram uses 3 belt/pulley pairs. This is a fairly high efficiency way of transferring energy
You, and others, are missing the point. The belt needs to have slack in it, and as a result, it jerks and snaps its way around. It is these bangs in the system which have an effect, the nature of which i do not know.

(Remember having to untighten a nut which is too tight? Get a spanner on it and it will not come off. Hit the spanner repeatedly with crisp blows from a hammer, and the nut may quietly drift off).

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2014, 12:07:49 PM »
This system works by replacing AC gen with DC 12 volt alt from a car that 80amps then connect it to pure sinewave inverter say 4000 watts you can run a few of these then connect inverter back to ac motor to keep this system running (( For EVER ))) please use 100kg flywheel
this creates free energy

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2014, 06:19:35 AM »
So I'm new to this site but have been looking through your guys info for awhile.  Please don't hate me if I posted this in the wrong spot.  I am trying to design a generator based mostly off of the chas campbell flywheel designs floating around on google.  I have a couple questions.

So far the parts I have gether end from my local scrapyard are a 95vdc treadmill motor for either the drive or as the generator. Also found two 35lb exercise bike flywheels I was hoping to turn at 1500-2000rpm but idk the rpm rating for them.  Also thought about using any flywheel from a car engine and spin it up around 4000rpm. Just an idea or maybe run them together in a gearing system. Open to ideas.  I have also gotten flange bearings and a good supply of pillow blocks at the scrapyard.

My ideas to finish the project are to use a 4-5hp treadmill motor for the generator side or maybe a few of the 2.5hp ones together on a sepentine belt. 
My questions are does this sound good enough to run 3-4kw system for a house or shop?
I have seen servo and stepper motors generating power on a small scale windmill.  Can a big version be a better generator?
If I turn the generator side at full rpm what power levels can I expect?
Would a cloths washing mashane motor be a good option as a generator or a few linked on the same shaft?

I consider myself decent with mechanical things and don't claim to be good in understanding electricity but I have a basic understanding  so any help is greatly aprecciated thanks.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2014, 12:55:15 PM »
This system works by replacing AC gen with DC 12 volt alt from a car that 80amps then connect it to pure sinewave inverter say 4000 watts you can run a few of these then connect inverter back to ac motor to keep this system running (( For EVER ))) please use 100kg flywheel
this creates free energy

really ?
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Offline tinman

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2014, 03:00:58 PM »

My ideas to finish the project are to use a 4-5hp treadmill motor for the generator side or maybe a few of the 2.5hp ones together on a sepentine belt. 
My questions are does this sound good enough to run 3-4kw system for a house or shop?


4hp is nearly 3kw's,but remember,this is power output,not consumption.A 3kw(4hp)motor would use nearly 3.8kw's of input power(depending on motor efficiency)under full load.This is the 3 to 4kw's you are looking for to power your shop or home. So you have to ask yourself-why would i want to add pully's,belt's bearing's,and large rotating masses???.

Flywheel's are only an energy storage device-much like a cap or battery.And like a cap and battery,you get back less than what you put in,due to friction of bearings and wind resistance.

The Chas Camble setup uses a small motor to build up energy within a flywheel over a period of time.But the energy it can give back is always less that what was put into it in the first place.There are so many losses in that system,it's not funny-belts=loss, bearings=loss, generator=loss. Chas has tricked himself,along with many others.You will use far less power by simply running your shop or home off the grid.

If you want to spend money on free energy device's,then the best true free energy device out there(a device where you dont have to pay for the power produced)is the humble solar panel.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2014, 11:25:59 PM »
This system works by replacing AC gen with DC 12 volt alt from a car that 80amps then connect it to pure sinewave inverter say 4000 watts you can run a few of these then connect inverter back to ac motor to keep this system running (( For EVER ))) please use 100kg flywheel
this creates free energy

The lack of understanding of even the most basic principles of mechanical energy in this statement it astounding to me.

There is no way this device can ever generate energy.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 10:17:19 AM »
This system works by replacing AC gen with DC 12 volt alt from a car that 80amps then connect it to pure sinewave inverter say 4000 watts you can run a few of these then connect inverter back to ac motor to keep this system running (( For EVER ))) please use 100kg flywheel
this creates free energy
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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2014, 05:54:33 PM »
Thank you for the reply.  I appreciate your opinion.    I have also been very puzzled by how he has gotten by with all the friction built up in all the pulleys and belts in between all those wheels but I figured he nulled it out with all that rotatiating mass at different speeds.  There is a replica on YouTube and the guy used 750watt Motor to generate 2350watts I think.  That sounds pretty good gain to me.  Is there maybe a better generator design out there to generate power(servo, stepper, or alternators).  I think friction could also but cut down using oils instead of grease for bearing and aren't sepentine systems more effecient( I could be totally wrong).   I was thinking of using capacitors as a battery instead of the flywheel but they scare the shit out of me so I'm sticking with mechanical system I think.  Anyway thanks  I really appreciate any input.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2014, 05:57:10 PM »
I have also read that pulsing a dc motor will greatly improve its efficiency and I can c how but has anybody had success doing it.  I haven't seen it yet.   Thanks

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2014, 09:33:43 PM »
Average electric motor efficiency is about 80%.
Belt drive: 10% wasted energy.
Average generator: 80%
Total efficiency: 0,8 x 0,9 x 0,8=0,576. Very low.
We must use "overunity" motor and generator without transmission losses(gravitational force, magnet repel force, forms of resonance, resonace ferquency, etc.) .

I think the Chas Campbell device get overunity from AC resonace, if the system is on perfect resonance, RPM-s.

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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2014, 12:37:03 AM »
There is a discussion on energeticforum.com going on right now about a device that I believe uses a similar principle.  It has some of the brightest members over there talking about it as the inventor has been given some awards and while the device initially seems to defy logic (as to how it could be COP > 1) it now has some possible explanations by the sharper minds on that thread.  Here:   http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11282-awarded-machine-multiply-force-motor-free-energy.html

So yes I think this device from Chas has potential and always did believe there was something to it despite the negative PR some have given it.  I think it will take some work to get it tuned just right so I would suggest patience is needed in a build like this.  Best of luck.

Lets have a look at what these bright members have to say.
!!Quote from the guru him self(Aaron)-There is no such thing as conservation of energy.
Second, you say power is rate of energy in time but it is not. Power is energy dissipated divided by time so you take the time out of it to see what the power is. If you have 1 watt second or 1 joule over 1 second, that is the real energy dissipated. If you take 1 watt second and divide it by 1 second, you have 1 watt. 1 watt by itself is POWER - there is no time in a power reading so your statement that power is energy in time is incorrect.

Yes, energy and not just power CAN be multiplied by using environmental input (gravity for example) as a source of potential that can do work on each successive cycle. The free input from the environment delays the time the system comes into equilibrium so that the amount of ENERGY dissipated by our own input is MULTIPLIED bit by bit by bit. !!

Lol-what chance do they have lol.
There is one bright member over there on the case though.

!!Quote FarmHand: That's not multiplying the energy, that is just adding more. If you enable the
environment to input energy to your device then that input energy is a result
of your actions and therefore it's your input, just like with a solar panel. It's
all just word soup. But the reality is.
An amount of energy in itself cannot be increased or multiplied.
If you want more energy then you need to make more energy available.!!

Good to see on bright mind on the job anyway.



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Re: Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2014, 12:43:38 AM »
bugler,  Please look in on the message thread here:     http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11282-awarded-machine-multiply-force-motor-free-energy.html
If you know most of the people discussing it there as well as I do you know there are some brilliant minds discussing how this is possible.  While it is not the same thing it is similar.   I'm not saying I know one way or the other but the fact that it is even being discussed and good theories postulated by some there tells me this requires more than just a quick look.

What that guy has made,is a heavy duty paint shaker-nothing more.

 

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