@All,
  I cleaned it up quite abit and hopefully made everything easier to understand.
 With the basic concept, the pump has a stroke of 1 inch or 2.5cm's. It has a depth
of 1.5 inches or 3.75 cm's. This would hopefully help the flow into the static head.
 The static head has been calculated to have about the same volume of water that the
pump discharges each time it pumps.
 With a static head height of 18 inches or about 45 cm's, there would be a space of about 12 inches or 45 cm's for the water buckets and the pump. This should be plenty of room
to work with. And with a 3:1 ratio, the water bucket that operaates the pump would be
generating 3 times the force of the water it would be moving. This would allow for some loss due to friction/resistence.
 As far as something like this goes, a working prototype could be worth a couple of million Euro's or U.S. dollars. After all, it would be the only working pm invention someone could buy and people most likely would.
 And since I am not building at present and accessAlex is a part of this, maybe someone wouldn't mind taking an interest in this as they would also benefit financially from it.
 If so, let us know.
 
                                                                              Johnny874

thing,
tomorrow or the next day, Im going to scan anc upload a drawing I cid last night, its a a cross between what me and alex have poxted, a bellows could be used as the pump. a little simpler,

johnny

  Thing,
 think this is something you could do ? It's scaleable, 1 inch equals 1 inch or cm for that matter.
 flapper valves might work for water flow control, simple but effective.
 
                                                                       Johnny

  Kator,
 I have thought of a way to modify this. Although not sure if working openly is such a good idea.
What with some of the bored experts that are in this forum, they'd need attention without bringing anything to the discussion.
 With this design, water flow is what matter's, kind of stating the obvious. but this is where attention is needed because valves would need to be used so the water would flow when it needs to.
 After that, the reset mechanism would be the enxt issue. one idea I had a while ago was to use a counter weight to help assist in lifting the (resetting) the rest mechanism.
 I did some math and found out that a 1 1/8th inch tube has close to 1 square inch of surface area,  .994. Not sure if i could find a tube that size. 1 1/4" is 1.22 and 1" is .7855. With a 1 inch tube, 28 cubic inches of water would be pumped up to almost 36 inches in height.
 With the design I am thinking of it, it would use levers, pulleys and counter weights. Sounds almost like an elevator. They use a counter weight that weighs the same as the elevator so only the weight of the people is being moved. And something like this would cancel out the weight of the reset mechanism unless it is being used to perform it's desired operation.
 Not sure, but may post a picture of it after I have made some progress on it. With a working model, then I can get help in getting Bessler's wheel built. Sometimes it's better to do what you can than what you want and i think this is an example of that.
 
                                                                                                                            Johnny             
 

@all,
 if I demonstrated that a pump can pump water up with the pump piston only dropping a little wouldn't get tk off my back.
 what he miszes on badly is this design would be modifying one section of a Bessler wheel or what I believe was the way Bessler built it anc yet tk like  someone else who used to bother me can only discuss his opinion of what he thinks he knows.
 like Heron's Fountain, this could be easily demonstrated but it might not show where it could be overunity unless it workz.
and if tk was a decent person he never would have bothered me in the first place. I do not tnink I should have to tolerate constant harassment to work on something in this forum and the only mpderator supports him becaue their friends and have spent little time pursuing gravity power conversion, they're just bored.

The history is all there, Johnny. I have all the PMs you sent to me, unsolicited and unprovoked, with all your abuse and insults. If the moderators haven't changed history by removing posts, anyone can see that YOU are the abuser, that you started with the insults and all the rest of the whining and complaining. YOU are the stalker, Jimbo. You've followed ME from thread to thread with your bloviating insults and your whining. You've even cluttered up my inbox with spam. Complain all you like. Builders are respected here... whiners, not so much.

edited to delete  post because it was not about Bessler.
 As far as Mt 66 goesm whether or not I build it should be up to myself.
 I have seen no one interested in my building anything.

                John, Johnny, Jim, Jimbo and James

  tk,
 u can have this forum. after all, I have Bessler's wheel :~)
 I can deal with that in my own time.

alan,
 if I can, no one will ever do business with you again,

 and the Scotts will b blowin their bag pipes.