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Author Topic: Ecklin Brown generator information?  (Read 36775 times)

Nali2001

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Ecklin Brown generator information?
« on: July 09, 2006, 01:29:01 AM »
Hi all,
I was wondering is there anyone here (or do you know anyone) that knows something about Ecklin Brown flux gate generators? See: http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/fluxgate/
Anything at all? I?m just looking for some real personal knowledge of experience with this device. It seems to me the device could be quite interesting. I mean skirting Lenz Law seems like a good path to  over unity. But so little info exists about this machine. So has anyone here something to share about is?

Thanks.
Marc

Nali2001

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Re: Ecklin Brown generator information?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 02:46:13 PM »
more info

Nali2001

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Re: Ecklin Brown generator information?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 02:54:48 PM »
Even more info

roggy32

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Re: Ecklin Brown generator information?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2006, 05:29:42 PM »
This looks like a much improved final concept of the original idea.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6208061.pdf


Nali2001

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Re: Ecklin Brown generator information?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2006, 06:08:32 PM »
Hi, well maybe it looks like an Ecklin generator in some ways. But is actually has nothing to do with the Ecklin concept. In the ecklin the only moving part is a rotating member which acts as a 'flux gate' and so the magnets nor the coils need to move relative to eachother and so when load is taken from the generator, there is no back load (lenz law) reflected to the prime mover. Hece a small motor is enough to drive this thing.

The 'NoLoad generator' from the patent you showed does have magnets rotating relative to the coils. But the coils have a special design. It couses the back flux generated by lenz law to 'stay in' the core and so not hinder the passing magnet. It is an anti Lenz effect same as the Ecklin relies on, only realized in another way. The patent does not claim overunity. But I think it can be reached with this design. But you need to do it right. The cores must not get saturated this is crucial in this design.

gyulasun

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Re: Ecklin Brown generator information?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 08:12:39 PM »
@ Nali2001

I wonder if you are aware of Slavek Krepelka's ideas to minimize Lenz law,  see this link http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf2/fields8.htm  and
http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf2/fields9.htm

(which by the way, includes his reference to the patent mentioned by roggy32 too.

(If a patent does not claim specifically that the idea included is overunity, it is because it would risk granting it at all, considering patent authority's viewpoints in most of the countries.)

Take a look at this US patent, it uses similar principle you mentioned at Ecklin Brown: magnet and coil are stationary and the change of the flux takes place by a rotated soft iron piece. The inventor dares to write: (When) "An electric load is applied to the generator, a countermagnetic force is generated through the armature to INCREASE speed of drive shaft and thereby LESS torque is required to rotate the drive shaft."  (Capitals are by me).  See link:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5191258.pdf

And let me refer to a yahoo mail group where the such Lenz reducing ideas are talked of: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAY/  and Steven is there too who has the url you included in this thread when started it. See this for instance:
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/CentralCore.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/ReducingLenzLawV2.gif
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/LenzLessCore01.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/LessLenzGeneratorTest01.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/FluxGatingMEG2.wmv

However, he has not reported ou yet, to date. But working on it hard...

rgds
Gyula