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nix85 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2021, 11:23:45 AM »

Quote from: Floor on September 25, 2021, 09:01:19 PM

@nix85

I read works by H.P. Blavatskiy, C.W. Leadbeater, and Annie Besant when
I was in my late teenage years and early twenties.

Some of which I keep to this day. Out of the many theosophisit's works,
Light on the path, as written down by Mabel Collins is the work I most
value and respect.

Be that as it may, I find in the lectures of J krishnamurti something truly transcendent
of the whole of theosophy.

regards
floor

That's good, those are valuable sources. I have books by all of the noted.

Yea Krishnamurti was the real deal. I prefer his lecture for the group of young people where they were indifferent, then when someone brought up 'Atman' he said like 'Who's that guy, where is he" and they started mumbling, and then he went like "See now that i touch your beliefs how you got jittery". I read he was picked by Babaji along with few other youths of his time to spread the word.

Beware that he later disowned Theosophy as a movement cause it got inflitrated.

Floor · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2021, 04:23:11 PM »

@onepower

The layout of time I gave, is a kind of physics explanation of time.
Time in a physics context, as I understand it.

The idea of subjective and objective or that the describing of anything
must be, from a point of view, is way older than modern scientific method.

Science has had to come to some kind of terms with this since its beginning.

A clock wise spinning motor shaft rotates clock wise only when viewed
from one end of the motor. It spins counter clock wise when viewed from the
other end.

Imagine two men getting into a fist fight,

because each one knew with total certainty,
the direction of the spin of the motor they were installing. Clock wise, no it's counter
clockwise, no clock wise... .. .

If those two men were instead observing the rotation of our galaxy, one from "above"
and the other from "below"

would you say that the galaxy was reversing direction
depending upon the perspective ? I wouldn't. Then again, any of the more egocentric
parts of our selves, probably would. But in terms of meaningfully defining or measuring
many of the galaxy's physical aspects, one would need to first define a frame of reference.

Inertial frames of reference, and relativity and even Einstein's special relativity are the only
way physics has found to describe certain phenomena.

Is the perspective of one's having a perspective the ultimate perspective ?
Not from my point of view.

One could simply turn away from the galaxy and look in another direction. Time is
a bit more pervasive. It's more difficult to step outside of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVro5wxqh4U

nix85 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2021, 05:31:55 PM »

I might add that in one contact case (and there are others similar to this) they said their time is out of phase with ours. We know 7 great spirals of astral matter surround the earth millions of miles into space, these are full of life of which this so called physical plane is a copy, NOT vice versa. Cities, industries, people, every single thing that is here is first there and much more that has not yet been clothed in the substance of this plane.

There are also 7 negative levels within the earth also spanning millions of miles, how is it possible, it is cause it exists on higher frequency, more waves in same space.

Interestingly, time on the lower astral levels above earth where most go when they 'die' (no such thing as death) is in sync with our time.

More about this movie Astral City based on material given through world known medium Chico Xavier.

And the book of same name http://www.oconsolador.com.br/linkfixo/bibliotecavirtual/ingles/AstralCity.pdf

What you see below are mountains of astral matter of which there are thousands all over the planet over all mayor cities. Inside these mountains is 'umbral' aka shadow zone, obviously word is similar to umbrella. These are the limbos, purification zones. On the top are cities of light, you can see the shaft of light projecting into space.

Floor · « **Reply #48 on:** September 27, 2021, 04:21:31 PM »

The not understood, word (in the vdeo below) is not "weapon" but means somethimg
more like technology or better yet capacity or ability.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube+%22arrival%22+scenes+%22they+need+our+help%22&t=ffab&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLwPpwLy4UIU

onepower · « **Reply #49 on:** October 01, 2021, 01:36:17 AM »

Floor
You didn't answer the question and as I said nobody probably will.

Here's an easier question... why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?.

It seems pretty common sense considering space is not empty but full of plasma, high energy particles, radiation and em waves. Obviously something moving faster would interact with more stuff more often. Yet somehow everyone got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand how anyone could come to that conclusion.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter. Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief.

Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol. Things are getting really weird out there and I'm not sure anyone should be giving people advanced technology. Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns.

Regards
AC

Floor · « **Reply #50 on:** October 01, 2021, 05:00:28 AM »

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Floor · « **Reply #51 on:** October 01, 2021, 05:33:54 AM »

Quote from: onepower on September 25, 2021, 06:50:51 PM

floor
I would agree, however since all mass can be affected by changing forces so must the patterns of oscillation and apparent measurement of time.

It comes down to a single question...
Your clock just changed, do you believe time in the entire universe just changed or that your clock simply changed in some way?.

It's kind of neat that anyone could write any number of books, give countless lectures, post hundreds of times a day with pages of complex equations yet one simple question renders all this a mute point. Do you believe your clock changed in some way or time as we know it in the entire universe?.

Like any really good question nobody seems want to answer it, lol.

Regards
AC

@ onepower

This question ?

"Your clock just changed, do you believe time in the entire universe just changed or that your clock simply changed in some way?. "
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onepower quote
"I would agree, however since all mass can be affected by changing forces so must the patterns of oscillation and apparent measurement of time."
end of that quote

What do you mean by "Your clock simply changed in some way" ?
You held back the hands for an hour, or, you and the clock go traveling at
some vastly different speed than did a reference clock ?

Not only the "apparent measurement of time" but the actual measurement of time.

It is not simply as if some clock's pendulum's swing changes, but also the speed of the
orbits of the electrons and so on ... all of it changes.

If one is moving with the clock, the speed of one's perception, (PHYSICAL neurological event)
of the clock hand motions is changed and so on. One cannot tell if the clock has sped up
or slowed down, because it has done neither, from one's own perspective.

From the perspective of the clock, time changed in the rest of the universe.

From the perspective of the rest of the universe time changed in the clock.

That is relativity.

onepower · « **Reply #52 on:** October 01, 2021, 06:51:56 AM »

floor

Floor · « **Reply #53 on:** October 01, 2021, 03:17:58 PM »

Quote from: onepower on October 01, 2021, 01:36:17 AM

Floor
You didn't answer the question and as I said nobody probably will.

Here's an easier question... why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?.

It seems pretty common sense considering space is not empty but full of plasma, high energy particles, radiation and em waves. Obviously something moving faster would interact with more stuff more often. Yet somehow everyone got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand how anyone could come to that conclusion.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter. Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief.

Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol. Things are getting really weird out there and I'm not sure anyone should be giving people advanced technology. Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns.

Regards
AC

"Interacting with more stuff more often" is not at all the explanation Einstein gives in
his theories of relativity.

"I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter."

Are you referring to laughter as in a free and natural expression, or the contrived way in which
a feigned laughter is sometimes a method of ridiculing others. as is "LOL" so often such a method?

"Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief. "

Really? How many people, just like little Joe, think they can fly by tugging on their
boot straps ?

"Yet somehow everyone got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed."

Well I guess that depends on whether or not one sees life as "miraculous". Seen as
miraculous or not, time does change.

"It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand how anyone could come to that conclusion. "

What is perhaps even more bizarre is that sometimes, even though we have eyes,
we yet refuse to see.

"Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol."

lol ?

"Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns."

I'm inclined to believe that our fears are what underlie most of our expressions of violence.

best wishes
floor

Floor · « **Reply #54 on:** October 01, 2021, 04:42:01 PM »

Quote from: onepower on October 01, 2021, 01:36:17 AM

Floor
You didn't answer the question and as I said nobody probably will.

Here's an easier question... why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?.

It seems pretty common sense considering space is not empty but full of plasma, high energy particles, radiation and em waves. Obviously something moving faster would interact with more stuff more often. Yet somehow everyone got it in there head that time somehow miraculously changed. It's the most bizarre thing I have ever seen and cannot understand how anyone could come to that conclusion.

I mean it wasn't that long ago that claiming time was variable would be met with hysterical laughter. Like little Joe thinking he could fly by tugging on his boot straps, lol. Yet somehow most bought into this strange belief.

Meanwhile nix85 is trying to argue he's immortal, lol. Things are getting really weird out there and I'm not sure anyone should be giving people advanced technology. Many are even throwing around the nuclear option because they actually believe they cannot die... fruit loops and unicorns.

Regards
AC

I have answered your first question twice now, in two distinct replies.

As for your second "easier question". It is based in so much misunderstanding on your
part that it cannot be answered. Its premise is twice, incorrect.

"why would you think the material properties of an object, our clock, wouldn't change at very high velocity?."

i.e. Why would onepower think that birds being lighter than air wouldn't be the reason they
can fly. ?

Floor · « **Reply #55 on:** October 02, 2021, 03:30:59 AM »

I think the technical aspects of this world are important, sure. But in my own
life, it is apparent that the better the quality of my relationships with
others is, the better my own life is. That is a big part of what I am myself am
trying to do a better job of, at the O.U. forum. lol.

floor

onepower · « **Reply #56 on:** October 02, 2021, 02:42:13 PM »

Floor

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As for your second "easier question". It is based in so much misunderstanding on your
part that it cannot be answered. Its premise is twice, incorrect.

I'm simply arguing a point already accepted by science that the most logical theory which makes the least assumptions is generally the right one.

In my opinion it is illogical to think universal time actually changed in a moving object which could then effect other time frames. Like the strange notion that one thing could experience two years passing and another thing four years simply because one thing is moving. We have no evidence to support this theory other than the fact "a clock changed" based on inaccurate data.

That is, a moving clock appearing to change time is an inaccuracy just like our oscilloscope not being properly calibrated is an inaccuracy.

It's like thinking universal time changed creating countless paradoxes simply because the pendulum on a grandfather clock oscillated faster or slower. They seem to be confusing a measure of something with something tangible and reality. This is why the science community claims we need to be very careful about what we think were actually measuring and it's context.

If I were doing the clock at rest/moving clock experiment I would have simply allowed for the fact that a moving clock becomes inaccurate the faster it moves. At no point would it cross my mind that time actually changed or that it could actually affect other things, it's absurd in my opinion.

As well the Aether/dark matter-energy theory solves this problem by recognizing that something moving through the medium of space is affected and does produce errors in our measurements. So you see all this GR hub bub is simply a misunderstanding based on inaccurate data... that's all.

Regards
AC

Floor · « **Reply #57 on:** October 02, 2021, 03:15:34 PM »

Up and down are really away from earths center and toward it.
Locally valid, universally invalid, but it is a natural assumption to conclude
that up and down are universally uniform.

It is also an assumption to think a universal time actually exists.

regards
floor

ramset · « **Reply #58 on:** October 02, 2021, 03:30:09 PM »

Here a fellow who says he has a gain mechanism inline with thread theme

It was shared by Member AlienGrey ( or his offspring??)here and elsewhere !
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PS have a look at the G Sav thread on youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEU6oLnQfVqnPRT7vBspYZQ
Regards Sil
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I must say
You fellows do write some very intriguing posts(one and floor

There’s definitely a book or two in the making here!

I just wanted an opinion on AG’s thoughts , and this thread is relevant

( on his endorsement of the above you tube experimenter !

Respectfully
Chet K

Floor · « **Reply #59 on:** October 02, 2021, 03:49:15 PM »

@ramset

Thanks for the link / reminder that we / I are off topic here.

regards
floor

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