Thats a really good question Stefan...I've been wondering the same thing myself. I'm planning a trip up to Darrell's sometime soon, just have to book the time off of work. What I would like to know though is, what do people need to know to actually belive that this works, without going into the mechanical aspects of it? Basically I'm looking for a list of questions that need answering as well as what kinds of pictures that should be taken. Please either post the questions here, or email them to me - nightwynd@gmail.com
Thanks!
nightwynd.
I just had a longer talk with Darrel , who was very nice on MSN Messenger
and I signed an NDA, so he will show me the machine.
Maybe someone in Canada can do the same and visit him and
help him setup a marketing plan for the machine.
He has worked many years on it and he does not want to
give it away for free, which is understandable....
What would be the best plan, so he could make some
good money out of it and still get it out to the public ?
Benjamin Franklin believed that "As we benefit from the inventions of others, we should be glad to share our own...freely and gladly."
I had to become a member of your forum to view the pictures pictures are nothing new they been out for many years....!
the video is nothing new ....!
darrell has asked me ,"if I knew of away to fake a video".....!
I've talked to them on the phone several times he still attempts to talk to me and other members of the other forum..
the the I just posted a more in-depth post asking you to remove my e-mail,I never gave you permission to post my e-mail address publicly.......
why did you remove my last post.....?
please remove me as a member of this forum,I will not associate with someone like you that censors or removes posts.....!
why did you violates the terms of use of his own forum.....!
and why did you feel it to be a necessity to post my e-mail address.....?
and go ahead send money to Darryl you deserve to lose it....!
you have been a member of bestseller's wheel.com for quite a while and don't tell me you have never seen the fraud warning about Darryl........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not a kid i am49 years old,and you quite honestly know nothing about physics if you believe that contraption works.....!
Gentlemen, please. I read through that entire forum, and NOWHERE did I see any "proof". I have spoken with Darrell directly, and probably shown him more honest internest than anyone in quite some time. Did he ask for ANY financial assistance? no. He did however offer to help me build if I lived closer. The baseless attacks which you have levelled at Darrell I find personally affronting. This person that supposedly invested in Darrell's dream gave NO PROOF that he gave anyone anything at all
HE HAS SEEN THE FRAUD WORNING ABOUT DARRELL FOR YEARS......!!!!
AND IS NOW DOING WHAT,??????? WITH IT.....BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR A$$ ABOUT IT......LOL
P-L-E-E-S-E.......
HE UESES HIS ADMAN STATICE TO POST MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, AND DELITES THE POST MADE BY ME THAT HE DOESENT LIKE,.....THINK ABOUT IT....!!!1
WHY HAS HE BEEN A MEMBER @ BESSLER.COM SENCE 2003 AND NOT SEEN THE " FRAUD LISTING" , ABOUT DARRELL........LOL....
DREAMS ARE ONE THING, we have almost 400 members , we self police are forum, i think you need to do the same....!
:D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Lets stop the flame wars - if there is proof that the wheel doesn't work - let's prove it. Logically and friendly like - throwing accusations around accomplishes nothing.
once again remove me as a member of this forum....
I'm not sure which videos you have seen, but the ones Stefan and I have seen (NDA) - the wheel turned considerably more than a couple of degrees...and under its own power i might add.
ovyyus wrote:
Yes, I have the self-starting video where he walks up to the wheel, positions it, lets it go and it turns for less than 1/4 rotation. The full video is 000_0235.mov at 12,525 KB. You probably have a section of that.
Why does the wheel only turn about 1/4 rotation from that specific position? Because it is made top heavy in that specific position. Why doesn't Vandusen show at least one full rotation? Because the top heavy wheel will only accelerate for about 1/4 rotation from that specific position before it begins to slow and stop. Vandusen points to the fact that it makes 2 x 30 deg cycles knowing full well that that is only the case because he has made it top heavy in that position. Why? In order to create the impression that his wheel actually works when in fact it does not - so he can scam people for money.
Michael wrote:
Stefan, you say the principle is valid. Please explain what the principle is so I and others can check the physics.
Thanks,
Michael
Darrell's wheel does not have springs pushing weights inward. The spring concept variation was conceived and posted by Stefan at overunity.com
I said I would keep looking, so here it is. This video shows an experiment a few years ago.
It should be odvious that I have done more then just paper work.
Let me know what you think &
Have a Happy New Year
Darrell
GNU/GPL would probably be the best way to go if you need to patent. Then you can OPEN SOURCE it with no worries! :)
* see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License and http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
Hello Stefan,
I believe I have found a cad program that I can put a simulation of my machine on.
I will send it to just about anybody, that first signs an NDA.
I think this will be useful, for some of the measurements can be changed to get the required power output.
On another note, I think the main problem some of you have had, is your design is to small. ( You cannot multiply torque, if you don't have the diameter).
Darrell
PS I wish I could just sell this machine to someone that will move it forward. I could wait for 2 months while they build their own machine as proof of concept. It's funny that no one will sign up and build their own??
I take my time when answering an important post and the offer withen.
PEACE
Tim,
Maybe you would send me a video or even a picture of what you are, or were, working on.
It would be interesting if those that have something to say, would leed with what they have done themselves. I do not see why people cannot show what they have tried and failed with. This would show people, what not to do and that they are not all talk, no show. I for one, would love to look at the things people have tried, maybe we can figure out what went wrong. Yes, if I seen the answer to a problem, I would share the informaton with its inventor and shareing with the forum, would and should be up to them to decide.
The more thiings on the market, the better.
Darrell
Hi Tim, how are you today?
You typed;
I don't have a lot of time to reply here but I did want to run one more thing by you. I will sign your NDA and do everything in my powers to help you if you can provide me with the following after signing:
1) A full, detailed video of at least 2 or more rotations. With no noise besides the machine. (( The answer to your request, is NO. ))
2) Full disclosure and details of what ever it is you think makes it run.
3) If I'm convinced I would like to fly to you and see it in person for review.
4) What is the current status of the wheel(s)?
5) What do you want from me or what can I provide to help you?
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I said this on the 12th.
If you have an open mind, fine, if not, Good Bye.
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Darrel,
What is your responce to my offer? You totaly avoided my offer when I beleive is the best offer you have reveived from a credable source. I have been kind and I'm not feeling the love! What is your answer? No one will try to recreate your wheel or give you money or help you in any more of a way then you have recieved already untill you can show a video of a clear 2+ rotations. I'm willing to sign a NDA and if convinced I'll help you. That is what your asking right? AAAAHHHHHHH! Don't make us put you on a black list on this site too. I hate to say it but this is your last chance with me!
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Don't make us put you on the black list on this site too. Do you have that power?
Then you said, I hate to say it but this is your last chance with me!
This was and is enought for me, Your bad side, Don't make us black list you, ( WE, Us. )
Sorry Tim, I do not care for your typing and will not read your posts.
I know you and many others would like to see the machine , with it's rotations, however I made up my mind years ago, not to show anyone else.
When I first recorded this video, I did start by showing it to an engineer. I looked through the yellow pages and found a consulting engineer, willing to let me show them the video, so they could then confirm it and the machine, so as to have a person other then myself to say it worked as described. This man was a senior mechanical engineer, who has assisted me to this day, no charge.
Take care and good luck..
Mr Vandusen
Hello Stefan,
I was thinking, that before ending this post, I would offer you an opportunity to hear the latest explanation of how this machine works. I believe it is as strait forward as it can be.
How it concentrates the power or torque, were this power comes from and how it is used to operate the machine in the first place.
If you are interested and have the time, let me know.
You can then have the last say and let your readers hear your final decision.
Darrell
I have been wondering why no one has offered to prove me wrong? All you would need to do is sign up, receive the information, and then make up your own mind. When you find that it does work, maybe you would get involved.
Hi Darrell: I have to agree with that fellow AB Hammer, I just have a hard time believing the rudeness of some people on this forum, they have the option to ignore you but instead they attack,attack,attack and like that guy Bessler said, they will never be happy untill they have the secrete of your device. If you have worked on this thing for 25 years, you deserve some reward. Dont give in to the pressure,its obvious that an NDA means nothing to some of these people, go back and read page 1 of this thread, I am very suprised you are not retaining a lawyer, be very careful, some of these people will take your Idea and make it their own!