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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2006, 04:52:42 PM »
I had to become a member of your forum to view the pictures pictures are nothing new they been out for many years....!
the video is nothing new ....!
darrell has asked  me ,"if I knew of away to fake a video".....!
I've talked to them on the phone several times he still attempts to talk to me and other members of the other forum..
the the I just posted a more in-depth post asking you to remove my e-mail,I never gave you permission to post my e-mail address publicly.......

why did you remove my last post.....?
please remove me as a member of this forum,I will not associate with someone like you that censors or removes posts.....!

why did you violates the terms of use of his own forum.....!

and why did you feel it to be a necessity to post my e-mail address.....?

and go ahead send money to Darryl you deserve to lose it....!
you have been a member of bestseller's wheel.com for quite a while and don't tell me you have never seen the fraud warning about Darryl........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not a kid i am49 years old,and you quite honestly know nothing about physics if you believe that contraption works.....!

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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2006, 05:00:58 PM »
Truly sad racer....why are you trying so hard to discredit someone that might just have the real deal...even if it is close and not quite where you want it to be...why are you trying SO HARD? For all we know you have a vested interest in NOT seeing a gravity wheel come to fruition...are you associated with some kind of slam operation?

Please belive me - we on this forum are dedicated to finding out the truth, and not one of the regular members that I have read would ever stoop to the childish level that you people have. If the wheel turns out not to work - we will find out, and we will have concrete proof. Not childish accusations that are totally meaningless.

@Stephan. I'm with racer - remove him and all of his posts - they are not helpful at all to the dream.

Sincerely - nightwynd.

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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2006, 05:15:06 PM »
please,
 go ahead and remove me as a member ,I just came here to give you fare warning about Darryl.....
go find out why he was banned from bestsellerswheel.com
 and lern it the hard way......!
you are quite na?ve if you believe anything about Darryl's contraption...!


Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Two Years.
Gordy,
This is the sort of shit I'm still receiving.
 
I just want to make him go away.
 
He can keep the computer, digital camera and scanner/copier if he would just fade away.
 
Pete.
 
HELLO----- Pete,
 
Does time fly, or what.
I just thought I would touch base and ask how you are doing?
I have not heard from anyone for some time now, so I thought I would ask you if their is anything new with yourself OR the Gravity Machines?
I have been talking with Judd recentlly, over the messenger service, it sure saves the cost of the old phones. I talked with Judd for about two hours, it is nice to keep in touch.
I also had a phone conversation with Jim. I sure wish he could understand my machine, for I think he would be  invaluable for many reasons.
I continue to tell Bob, the person reduplicating the machine, that it is  potentially as good as sold, when it doe's the start  up and turns contentiously along with a load of output.
He is taking forever to get it completely finished. I have to help him so it at lest, moves forward.
Let me know if you are still on board or not?
I would like to know if you would be interested in a conversation over the messenger service, such as MSN?
 
Try to keep in touch, if you would.
Thanks for time!
 
Darrell




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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2006, 05:26:28 PM »
Would it be right to filter out skeptics? Are we not to take what we read here with a grain of salt. If I hear of anyone who has succeeded in OU and is close to me I would try my best to view the said invention before I said anything. Perhaps the negative posts should remain. That way if the invention is working then all can see both the skeptics views and the believers. BTW I am not adding to discredit anyone. As Quoted:

Benjamin Franklin believed that "As we benefit from the inventions of others, we should be glad to share our own...freely and gladly."

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul, 2006    Post subject: Vandusen Bessler wheel replication    Reply with quote View IP address of poster
I have signed NDA with Mr.Vandusen and I have seen his
videos and also the selfstarting of his 6 foot wheel
and it is really amazing !
I think he has really replicated the Bessler wheel and this
is really running from gravity alone ! Amazing !
Check out:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1230.msg10095.html#msg10095

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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2006, 06:03:06 PM »
@ Camster - I have no problems with negative statements or arguments against a particular machine. What I don't agree with is groundless and baseless arguments. I can call anyone a fraud - but what does it prove? If I have no concrete proof of fraudlent claims or arguments why would I even try?

@racer - why are you now calling Stephan a fraud? Because he's been a part of another forum? It's the internet man! Anyone can be a member of a forum...this is not fraudlent - it's called INTEREST. It is becoming clear that your interest is to discredit people - my question is why?

Lets stop the flame wars - if there is proof that the wheel doesn't work - let's prove it. Logically and friendly like - throwing accusations around accomplishes nothing.

Sincerely - nightwynd.

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« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2006, 06:23:22 PM »
I had to become a member of your forum to view the pictures pictures are nothing new they been out for many years....!
the video is nothing new ....!
darrell has asked  me ,"if I knew of away to fake a video".....!
I've talked to them on the phone several times he still attempts to talk to me and other members of the other forum..
the the I just posted a more in-depth post asking you to remove my e-mail,I never gave you permission to post my e-mail address publicly.......

why did you remove my last post.....?
please remove me as a member of this forum,I will not associate with someone like you that censors or removes posts.....!

why did you violates the terms of use of his own forum.....!

and why did you feel it to be a necessity to post my e-mail address.....?

and go ahead send money to Darryl you deserve to lose it....!
you have been a member of bestseller's wheel.com for quite a while and don't tell me you have never seen the fraud warning about Darryl........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not a kid i am49 years old,and you quite honestly know nothing about physics if you believe that contraption works.....!


Racer:
1. I did not remove any posting from you over here.

2. I removed your email address again, but you still hide behind your anonymity !

3. Darrel never asked me for money !

4.The guy with the username Clarkie  (Pete) on the besslerwheel.com forum did not cry,
when he lost 10.000 US$
and he also never posted the real sub-conditions, that was setup between him and Darrell,
the only guys that cried
are you and a few other guys from the besslerwheel forum.Why ? You were never involved...??

Here are the postings by this guy Clarkie ( Pete) from the besslerwheel.com forum all in a row.


Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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To all,
I have also signed an NDA and given Darrell $10,000 to prove to me his wheel works, I'm still waiting.

Pete.



Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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I did as I believed Darrell was genuine.

The money was in monthly installments plus exceptionals such as a computer, digital camera and a new shed to house the new wheel that he decided to build at my cost.

Originally he was only going to clean up the existing wheel so we could show it to investors but he got carried away and built a new one that didn't work.

Thats life, I stopped paying him in July after he said "just another $1000 will see it through".

He gave up his job in March after I met him in Toronto as he was convinced it would only take 3 weeks to clean it up but after 4 months and a lot of money I still had nothing but promisess and I did not want a grown man dependant on me so I stopped paying.

Pete.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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Proof is simple, self start plus two rotations.

I have now gone back to my ideas which include springs, I will continue to invest in me and not others.

Pete.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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I think you will find that a push was only required for a wheel that rotated in either direction.

I am not going to change my version of proof, its simple and relative.

Pete.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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John,
Happy New Year to you.

Oh what a can of worms this has turned out to be, I hope nobody else has suffered financially.

My only problem is the crap I got from Deb, cost me a big Christmas present, lots of diamonds.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Pete.


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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2006, 06:23:22 PM »
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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2006, 06:28:23 PM »
HE HAS SEEN THE FRAUD WORNING ABOUT DARRELL FOR YEARS......!!!!

AND IS NOW DOING WHAT,??????? WITH IT.....BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR A$$ ABOUT IT......LOL

P-L-E-E-S-E.......
 HE UESES HIS ADMAN STATICE TO POST MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, AND DELITES THE POST MADE BY ME THAT HE DOESENT LIKE,.....THINK ABOUT IT....!!!1

 WHY HAS HE BEEN A MEMBER @ BESSLER.COM SENCE 2003 AND NOT SEEN THE " FRAUD LISTING" , ABOUT DARRELL........LOL....

DREAMS ARE ONE THING,  we have almost 400 members , we self police are forum, i think you need to do the same....!
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« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2006, 06:35:28 PM »
Gentlemen, please. I read through that entire forum, and NOWHERE did I see any "proof". I have spoken with Darrell directly, and probably shown him more honest internest than anyone in quite some time. Did he ask for ANY financial assistance? no. He did however offer to help me build if I lived closer. The baseless attacks which you have levelled at Darrell I find personally affronting. This person that supposedly invested in Darrell's dream gave NO PROOF that he gave anyone anything at all

Hi Nightwynd,
that is right.
It is also my experience with Darrell and I will not delete any  postings over here
as otherwise I would be called a censor.
Racer270 can just unsubscribe himself from the forum if he wishes to do so.

Well I guess it is time you will visit Darrell and see his wheel and
give us a first hand eye witness report...

Darrell has invested 25 years for this wheel and he just doesn?t want to give it away
by showing too much in the posted videos. I have seen some quite remarkable videos
already, cause I have signed NDA, but it would be good to have an eye witness go there.
Many thanks.

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Re: Overunity, Green Energy, Powered by Gravity!
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« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2006, 06:38:38 PM »
I am looking forward to the outcome of Nightwynd's visit.

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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2006, 06:41:39 PM »
HE HAS SEEN THE FRAUD WORNING ABOUT DARRELL FOR YEARS......!!!!

AND IS NOW DOING WHAT,??????? WITH IT.....BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR A$$ ABOUT IT......LOL

P-L-E-E-S-E.......
 HE UESES HIS ADMAN STATICE TO POST MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, AND DELITES THE POST MADE BY ME THAT HE DOESENT LIKE,.....THINK ABOUT IT....!!!1

 WHY HAS HE BEEN A MEMBER @ BESSLER.COM SENCE 2003 AND NOT SEEN THE " FRAUD LISTING" , ABOUT DARRELL........LOL....

DREAMS ARE ONE THING,  we have almost 400 members , we self police are forum, i think you need to do the same....!
 :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

racer270,
you are accusing again
and I did not delete any of your post and I also will not delete any of your future
postings...,so if you think one posting is missing, just repost it .

I haven?t had visited the Besslerforum for quite some time in the past and was not aware
of the Fraud board there, but as I see it, only the other people put the Vandusen topic there
after Clarkie said, he had lost 10.000 US$ but seemed not to cry and he also nevermade the
whole sub-conditions public.
At least what he posted was the FACT, that Mr. Vandusen build from the money Clarkie ( Pete) gave him
the 8 foot machine !

So it seems this money was well spend and the 8 foot machine
looks quite nice.

The problem Darrell is still having is , that because of the length of the spokes and the
huge weights on them , they are a bit shaking, when going through the lock and
unlock mechanism and the wheel is thus is bit unstable,
which he wants to fix in the next days.

But he claims, that his 6 Foot machine is running and the videos
I have seen suggest that also !


Please let us concentrate now again on the technical side of things
over here again.
I hope Jim Mich can forward me the WM2D calculations he did on the Vandusen
wheel, so I can have a closer look at it.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2006, 07:04:12 PM by hartiberlin »

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« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2006, 07:07:07 PM »
Also this way posted on the Besslerwheel forum by user coylo



Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: re: First prototype made   

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I cannot whole-heartedly brand Darrell a fraud, there are a few questions remaining to be answered.
First of all in my e-mail exhange with Darrell, not once did he ask for money nor was there the slightest hint at such. He was just looking for advice.
Quote:
Originally he was only going to clean up the existing wheel so we could show it to investors but he got carried away and built a new one that didn't work.

With regards to Pete's situation, you could look at it from the perspective that Pete made an investment, and like any other business investment it involves great risk. Getting involved in some kind of business partnership with Darrell could of been financially rewarding, or the latter could happen in which case it did....or did it?........so.......

Questions for Darrell Vandusen Sr:

Are you going to honour Pete's investment and finish his machine that he payed for?
or...
Are you going to reimburse Pete his money because so far you have simply not honoured your side of the agreement?

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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2006, 07:19:54 PM »
Lets stop the flame wars - if there is proof that the wheel doesn't work - let's prove it. Logically and friendly like - throwing accusations around accomplishes nothing.

well we did, and you should too........the "red flag "......is he ran this same scam at bess.com
almost 1 and 1/2 years ago,...!

i have seen the 8 foot wheel video,the bent arms ....ect.
i did a (nda) like you did, but it is meaninless , because it is a fraud...!
the truth is I have the equipment to analyze his videos,and I did it in a frame by frame analysis over a year and a half ago.
please someone go and looked at his contraption firsthand then report the BS back to your members...!
just keep a tight grip on your pocketbook...!

ps.not only did you post my e-mail address here .....you also postedit@bestler.com....why...?
if you wanted my e-mail address why did you not just at ask....?
what was the point,....?

as far as you have not visited bessler.com inquire a while,that's BS....anyone can go to the site and find all your posts the dates they were posted and make their own conclusions.

frankly I wish you would unsubscribe me from your forum,I would do it myself if it was clear how to do so.

I only came to your form to give you a heads up,.....nothing more...!
Darryl comes off very polite over the phone,he has had my home phone number for two years....he even uses a fake accent from time to time.
....oooo don't you know........have you heard that yet...?

you did remove my e-mail address from this form , what gave you the right to post it in the first place.?
and why did you post it at besslerswheel.com ....?

I am surely not hiding behind a anonymous e-mail address,.....your forum gave me the option not to show it...!
but you chose to use your administrative privilege to show it not only here but at other forums why...?
what was the point....?
it really doesn't matter to me......what your motivation is,and most of the members at besslers.com have had my personal e-mail address for years....!
I find it hard to believe that you would come to bessler.com and pronounce Darryl's contraption as viable...

you go right ahead and defend them to your last dollar......just remember I told you so....!

once again remove me as a member of this forum,I did not come here to insult anyone except Darryl is a scam stir a fraud and I think y'all need to find that out for yourselves best of luck..

 

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