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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #90 on: December 23, 2012, 04:18:44 AM »
  bill,
 you and alan have me at a disadvantage and that is no one believes Bessler actually built a working wheel.
 After all, in over 300 years no one has managed to reproduce it. And I am quite certain that it took him some time to build as well. He wrote that he built many wheels but only 4 were made known.
 That could be why he was criticized for being succesful, people don't like being wrong.

added; uh bill, not sure how to let you and alan down easy but you two have nothing to do with why I am doing this.

@All,
 I started doing builds to help me understand Bessler's work. As it turns out, a month or so after my first build I started having symptons of what turned out to be cancer. I had complicatios which when all is said and done has caused me to miss over one year of work, yet bill and alan fault my effort.
 think it will be best for me to take my time so I can make a good first impression for Bessler.

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #91 on: December 23, 2012, 04:36:05 PM »
  Alan,
 you mean there is someone else as ignorant as you out there ? VERY SCARY thought.
 but then, if you are tk as I think you might be, then you had no need to log pn as ab dumber to harass me.
 I think Stefan missed the point of being famous. people like you who only care about that have nothing but spam and a lot of it.
 add
what was it the guy in museum of hoaxes ,com told us? we'd only be foot notes in history. but that is not what you want but then, you are not like Bessler as you claim.
if anything, you shame his legacy.
Bessler deserves better and at least with me I have taken the time to learn his work.
 cry all you like but then, I AM looking forward to getting started on my build. why I will let you have the forum.

 bye
Igonorant ?
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I am not the one blaming others of being someone else and believing it. LMAO
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bill,
 you and alan have me at a disadvantage and that is no one believes Bessler actually built a working wheel.
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If I didn't believe Bessler built the wheel? I would most likely not be in this game anymore. But as Bessler said there are more ways to achieve self running. So when a wheel is done and understood. There is still no way to call or prove it to be Bessler's wheel. But you can call it a Bessler like wheel being a self running wheel.
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Alan

 
 

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2012, 01:12:50 AM »
  alan,
 just a friendly reminder but you posted in besslerwheel in the fraud section of the forum that I am the ultimate fraud because I had cancer
 it seems that tk agrees with you.
Jim
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You are the ultimate fraud. For all the sign ins you have use (not to metion some of your claims), which I have lost count of, and I can no longer care less.
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(Your claimed cancer had nothing to do with anything except in your head.) Only you, and as you can see even without me here you are still being called down on your claims and mannerisum. You need to do some talking to the man in the mirror, and be honest. 2013 is a new year and the Mayan calender is done, and and the world didn't end. So lets all start a new, and leave the bull $#!+ in the past.
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Myself, I am on a new venture of converting over to custom bike building ( I am still building armor of couse ). Over the next couple of years, to qualify and inter a build at Sturgis, in the world compitition. Even placing in it is a great honor. I am already doing custom ignition covers designed for a Harly Davidson. I have 11 more to do at this time after they got the first ones. Simi retirement has opened up a lot of things I have wanted to do. ;)  Including more expensive type builds for the Bessler type wheels.
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Have a Marry Christmas and a happy new year!
Alan

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2012, 01:17:02 PM »
   @All,
  This is the video where ab hammer thinks I need a new stand. he missed the point just as tinselkoala and pirate88719 have.
 What I explained to Stefan because he was willing to listen is that the weight rotating the wheel is the equivalent of about 5% of the gross weight of the wheel.
 The stand itself works just fine. What is missed is when the wheel stops rotating that it has sufficient torque to over come the center of mass being shifted by 3.5 inches by the stand.
 This means that 5 weights are to one side of the edge of the stand that the wheel is using as a fulcrum and 3 1/2 weights on the "under balanced: side. Simply put, 3 1/2 weights do not have more potential than 5 weights.
 But since their potential was converted to torque, they do as demonstrated in the video.
  So, when ab hammer says that all people like him, tinselkoala and pirate88719 have been calling me out, they have been over looking a physical demonstration of gravity being converted into torque.
 And if you check out the other videos I have made, one is called Bessler's Shooting Weight ?
The water being pumped out is about the same mass as the weight performing the work.
 It does take time to put both idea's into one working wheel. This is why Stefan hasn't banned me even though his moderator seems to want that and pirate88719 IS a moderator at overunity.com. What I think Stefan does not realize is that his moderators are willing to abuse their position and the trust he places in them.
 Of course, I am banned at besslerwheel.com for this very work I am doing.

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edited to add; @All,
 I hope all of you are able to enjoy your Christmas Holiday.

 Myself, I will be able to enjoy and what will help is being able to relax and know in time I will be able to build what I believe to be Bessler's wheel. To this end, the shop space I was going to rent, I will be able to.
 And I will also be able to afford to buy some of the things I will need to set up a shop to work in.
 I am not sure if I will post the build because it will be time consuming and might not make for a good discussion.

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2012, 10:03:18 PM »
I am not a Moderator here.

OK, this is like the 10,000 time I have had to tell you this.  Are you really this thick?

More lies.  More lies.  That is all you know how to do.

Folks here know the truth which is why you have no respect here at all.  You never will unless you quit telling all of your lies.

Oh, you should probably actually try to build something too.

Bill (NOT a Moderator as all can see)

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #95 on: December 25, 2012, 07:56:35 AM »
BTW I googled En Principia and it shows an error just as I thought.  No such thing.  Newton's book was not titled like this.

I am not surprised.

I supposed you do not realize the gravity of this situation?

Bill

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #96 on: December 25, 2012, 08:35:33 PM »
I deleted some postings due to Jim´s offtopic and accusation postings
and some respones, cause all was offtopic.

Also he is now moderated and I will let only posts through that are ontopic and
don´t have any flames and attacks in them.

Regards, Stefan.(admin)
P.S. @Jim,
I am the only moderator on this thread, so nobody else can delete your postings !

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2013, 03:36:00 PM »
  @All,
  If pirate88719 had googled Newton plus  En Principia as he claims he did in his laxt post, he would have found out that the full name of Newton's book is Philosophae Nzturalis Principia Mathematica.
 I think it is sad that pirate88719 has to lie so openly to try and discredit me.

  Jim

 what Bill/pirate88719 posted;
  Re: Bessler's En Principia  « Reply #95 on: December 25, 2012, 01:56:35 AM » Quote
  You are ignoring this user.  BTW I googled En Principia and it shows an error just as I thought.  No such thing.  Newton's book was not titled like this.

I am not surprised.

  What a google search actually shows;
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=newton+en+principia&oq=newton+en+principia&gs_l=hp.3..0i22l4.1826.13772.0.14090.21.19.1.1.1.0.174.2488.0j19.19.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.3.psy-ab.8GSVqduqyQk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42553238,d.aWM&fp=650e83a55f34ea61&biw=1280&bih=921

first hit or item listed;
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica - Wikipedia, the free ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophiæ_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

  As I mentioned, it is sad when someone has to out right lie to try and discredit someone. But as I have found, that in a wood working forum I did realize how cool of a hobby this can be. It was nice seeing what other people did with wood.
 And this week, I will be doing design work because things have improved for me, both with my health and being able to think about the joy I will have from taking some pride in the work I will be doing and being able to enjoy doing it.

http://bessler2011.blogspot.com/
« Last Edit: February 17, 2013, 06:57:30 PM by johnny874 »

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #98 on: February 18, 2013, 03:27:42 AM »
  @All,
  If pirate88719 had googled Newton plus  En Principia as he claims he did in his laxt post, he would have found out that the full name of Newton's book is Philosophae Nzturalis Principia Mathematica.
 I think it is sad that pirate88719 has to lie so openly to try and discredit me.

  Jim

 what Bill/pirate88719 posted;
  Re: Bessler's En Principia  « Reply #95 on: December 25, 2012, 01:56:35 AM » Quote
  You are ignoring this user.  BTW I googled En Principia and it shows an error just as I thought.  No such thing.  Newton's book was not titled like this.

I am not surprised.

  What a google search actually shows;
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=newton+en+principia&oq=newton+en+principia&gs_l=hp.3..0i22l4.1826.13772.0.14090.21.19.1.1.1.0.174.2488.0j19.19.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.3.psy-ab.8GSVqduqyQk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42553238,d.aWM&fp=650e83a55f34ea61&biw=1280&bih=921

first hit or item listed;
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica - Wikipedia, the free ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophiæ_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

  As I mentioned, it is sad when someone has to out right lie to try and discredit someone. But as I have found, that in a wood working forum I did realize how cool of a hobby this can be. It was nice seeing what other people did with wood.
 And this week, I will be doing design work because things have improved for me, both with my health and being able to think about the joy I will have from taking some pride in the work I will be doing and being able to enjoy doing it.

http://bessler2011.blogspot.com/

I was correct..  That which you have posted was NOT the title of his book.  Any questions?  Any one can look that up to see that I am correct.  You just proved it with your posting.  Please learn English and then learn how. to type before posting.  "En Principia" does not exist anywhere....much less written by Newton.

Bill
« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 05:38:03 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #99 on: February 18, 2013, 01:24:38 PM »
I was correct..  That which you have posted was NOT the title of his book.  Any questions?  Any one can look that up to see that I am correct.  You just proved it with your posting.  Please learn English and then learn how. to type before posting.  "En Principia" does not exist anywhere....much less written by Newton.

Bill

  Bill,
 You are nothing short of a liar. You need to take the time to learn something at some point. The short name for his book is Principalis, easy for reference purposes. And you know what is even funnier, the answer Principalis was also used as a question on Jeopardy.
 And there is nothing wrong with my using the phrase Bessler's En Principia in referencing Newton's book. I didn't take Latin in school, sorry.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 11:48:17 PM by johnny874 »

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #100 on: February 18, 2013, 11:52:34 PM »
  @All,
 Took my tools back to my shop. It is climate controlled by the great out doors.
Did a little work on my warping fixture and it was nice being able to route at a good depth.
 With the temperature in the mid 50's (about 10C.), it made for pleasant working conditions.
 Of course, since I am doing all design work, developmental testing and fabrication myself, not
sure where soemone who is not building something can call me out like my critics have. And following
instructions from a magazine on how to build a Heron's fountain does not count, sorry pirate88719.
 I do need to stay on budget, fact of life.
 
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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #101 on: February 19, 2013, 01:34:17 AM »
  Bill,
 You are nothing short of a liar. You need to take the time to learn something at some point. The short name for his book is Principalis, easy for reference purposes. And you know what is even funnier, the answer Principalis was also used as a question on Jeopardy.
 And there is nothing wrong with my using the phrase Bessler's En Principia in referencing Newton's book. I didn't take Latin in school, sorry.

Why am I a liar because you did not take Latin and have made a serious mistake in the use of language?  I am correct so therefore that makes me a liar?

I can not follow such a lack of logic, sorry.

Bill

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #102 on: February 19, 2013, 06:18:28 PM »
Why am I a liar because you did not take Latin and have made a serious mistake in the use of language?  I am correct so therefore that makes me a liar?

I can not follow such a lack of logic, sorry.

Bill

  Bill,
 What's it like being a bigot ?
 And Bill, the only reason Stefan has tolerated my being harassed is because I am the only person who said they could build Bessler's wheel and he doesn't think it's possible. he is palying it on the gauranteed side of things, it is supposed to be impossible, right ?
 
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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #103 on: February 20, 2013, 01:56:10 AM »
  Bill,
 What's it like being a bigot ?
 And Bill, the only reason Stefan has tolerated my being harassed is because I am the only person who said they could build Bessler's wheel and he doesn't think it's possible. he is palying it on the gauranteed side of things, it is supposed to be impossible, right ?
 
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So you make an error and now I am both a liar and a bigot?  You make such foolish posts that you are harassing yourself.  let me know when you actually build something.

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Re: Bessler's En Principia
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2013, 05:00:11 PM »
So you make an error and now I am both a liar and a bigot?  You make such foolish posts that you are harassing yourself.  let me know when you actually build something.

 Have been over the last couple of years. Kind of funny how you and your friends missed that.
 Still, it's how I got to where I am today and why I am pursuing the build I am. You know, the
road less travelled. what do they call it ? Oh yeah, I remember now, they call it reinventing the wheel.
 Not like your Heron's Fountain which is a well travelled road. Nothing against Heron, just you.
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