Author Topic: Bessler's En Principia (Read 82644 times)

johnny874 · « **Reply #75 on:** December 19, 2012, 03:25:55 AM »

bill,
not as rude as you and alan trying to steal my invention. you guys wouldn't let me discuss it with anyone. slowing the fountain is something only an idiot would do yet you say I stole that from tk, what a joke.
if alan ever opened a book, he might learn something but it is both of yours problem and not mine.
and btw, texas borders louisiana, poor attempt at hiding is i.p. address.

johnny874 · « **Reply #76 on:** December 19, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »

@All,
I'll probably start a web page to go along with my youtube channel.
Building can be expensive and does take time. For the idea's I've posted, it will take some time.
As Peter Lindeman, Milkovic and others like them have not been expected to give away their work for free.
Some of the tests will need to be to engineering standards to not be a waste of time.
What is funny is I have been banned from this forum and besslerwheel for pursuing this specific Bessler build. Since it has been 300 years, the build can't be that easy.
my yt channel is bessler2011. I'll link my web page to it when I get it up.

Jim

p.s. I do believe I change U.S. policy concerning hearing loss as a disability but it won't happen if I don't avoid jealous people.

TinselKoala · « **Reply #77 on:** December 19, 2012, 07:32:09 AM »

Quote from: johnny874 on December 19, 2012, 03:25:55 AM

bill,
not as rude as you and alan trying to steal my invention. you guys wouldn't let me discuss it with anyone. slowing the fountain is something only an idiot would do yet you say I stole that from tk, what a joke.
if alan ever opened a book, he might learn something but it is both of yours problem and not mine.
and btw, texas borders louisiana, poor attempt at hiding is i.p. address.

The only bit of truth in that rant is that Texas borders Louisiana.
You cannot support your ridiculous accusation that Bill and "alan" have tried to steal ANYTHING from you, with facts and references.
WHAT IS THE DATE ON WHICH YOU FIRST POSTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH HERON'S FOUNTAIN? The time course of events, including my videos, Bill's thread, your thread, your silly diagram..... all demonstrate just how wrong you are.

johnny874 · « **Reply #78 on:** December 20, 2012, 02:44:45 AM »

and yet Stefan locked mrwayne's thread because of the hate you spew.
I'm wondering why he didn't ban you. I guess it is your forum Alan. After all, when you used your step sons Michael's account to post to me because you couldn't use your own ab hammer account. I just wonder why bill and stefan protect you.
In a forum where perpetual motion is the goal, you are a cancer.
of course, as ab hammer you act like you're a nice person while you discredit peoples efforts. still, in a forum such as this, it does make me wonder why stefan protects you, you have nothing to contribute. after all, a zed device is not a Heron's Fountain and this is supposed to be a research forum.
Myself, I no longer consider this a crecible free energy forum. it is one people should avoid.

johnny874 · « **Reply #79 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:13:21 PM »

@All,
If you check out this post by tk, in the picture is nothing but a bumch of junk and at no time does he mention engineering.
And if you look at what mrwayne built and had invested into his work, the spammer tk won again.
With what mrwayne was working on, what he missed which is something I mentioned in this thread that pirate88719 and tinselkoala both ridiculed me for. They have no clue about engineering but are some how the forum leaders and can take over other peoples work.
What I posted which tk and bill said was stupid is that if you have a surface area of 5 cubic centimeters and have and pump it into a tube with a surface area of 4 square centimeters, then what you have is a column of water 1.25 cm's tall. And with an area of 5 square centimeters being 1 centimeter deep, it is the 5 cubic centimeters I mention.
What mrwayne was trying to do was to use 1/2 (as an example) of the elevation gained in the pressure head into free energy. What he did not realize was that when he restricted the flow of fluids to increase pressure, he was reducing it's flow rate proportional to the restriction creating the extra pressure. And since his generator was powered by a pressurized flow of fluid, it's flow rate could not be diminished to create the extra pressure.
But as I mentioned, bill and tk have no understanding of engineering otherwise they would have said something like that but they didn't.
Can work on my own much easier than being attacked for actually knowing what I am talking about.

Bye
Jim

tk's post
Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system. « Reply #3413
http://www.overunity.com/10596/hydro-differential-pressure-exchange-over-unity-system/3405/#.UNL-Vr5OlxA

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #80 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »

So now it's cubic centimeters of surface area?

Some real engineering there. Um, surface area is not measured in cubic anything. LxW. I know it is a hard formula to understand but, that is how real engineering works.

Please read at least one book.

Bill

johnny874 · « **Reply #81 on:** December 21, 2012, 01:24:21 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 21, 2012, 07:55:00 AM

So now it's cubic centimeters of surface area?

Some real engineering there. Um, surface area is not measured in cubic anything. LxW. I know it is a hard formula to understand but, that is how real engineering works.

Please read at least one book.

Bill

Bill,
>> Please read at least one book. <<
I think that is the problem. I have read many books, have experience and have studied math and all you and your friendlies have done is post. You and tk are like a couple of mosquitos and not much more.
BTW, since the 2 of you know engineering, why in tk's post is the only thing he mentioned is the fact that his hands got wet and he had "things" ?
If Stefan considers you and tk credible, really is a waste of my time being in here.

Bye
Jim

edited to add;
@All,
These are some "things" (Trammel Points) I am going to buy so I can do a decent layout.
I think what Bill misses is that for what I am working on, PiR^2H works just fine. I noticed
he only knows how to calculate the volume for a square or rectangle.
I think those are boring designs and for someone with no engineering experience or not
having much of a math background, it would be a good place to start.
But I guess by actually working at idea's and taking the time to do the math, I am well ahead
of where everybody else is and probably why I will enjoy more working on my own.
Constant criticism from people like Bill and tk who only want to get into pissing contest shows
they have no respect for the subject or for people like Heron and Bessler.
I simply will not work that way.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22074&site=ROCKLER

TinselKoala · « **Reply #82 on:** December 22, 2012, 02:43:21 AM »

Quote from: johnny874 on December 20, 2012, 02:44:45 AM

and yet Stefan locked mrwayne's thread because of the hate you spew.
I'm wondering why he didn't ban you. I guess it is your forum Alan. After all, when you used your step sons Michael's account to post to me because you couldn't use your own ab hammer account. I just wonder why bill and stefan protect you.
In a forum where perpetual motion is the goal, you are a cancer.
of course, as ab hammer you act like you're a nice person while you discredit peoples efforts. still, in a forum such as this, it does make me wonder why stefan protects you, you have nothing to contribute. after all, a zed device is not a Heron's Fountain and this is supposed to be a research forum.
Myself, I no longer consider this a crecible free energy forum. it is one people should avoid.

So avoid it then, you liar. You cannot support any of your contentions about me with facts or references.

Stefan locked Travis's thread because TRAVIS asked him to, and the reason for that was that Travis could not answer my simple questions without admitting that he does not have any self-running machine, that he cannot possibly construct one that produces 20 kW in the footprint of a toolshed, and he does not now and never has had any real proof of overunity performance.... and Mark Dansie's report, as posted there now, confirms all of this.
And I have contributed far more to this forum than you could ever dream about.... since you DO NOTHING, you just talk about when you might be able to do something. You are so blindered and arrogant that you can't even comprehend what I am doing, or why, so it just passes completely over your head.

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #83 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:56:10 AM »

I'm sorry but the only one who's not an idiot is TK,

onthecuttingedge2005 · « **Reply #84 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:58:29 AM »

Quote from: johnny874 on December 20, 2012, 01:13:21 PM

@All,
If you check out this post by tk, in the picture is nothing but a bumch of junk and at no time does he mention engineering.
And if you look at what mrwayne built and had invested into his work, the spammer tk won again.
With what mrwayne was working on, what he missed which is something I mentioned in this thread that pirate88719 and tinselkoala both ridiculed me for. They have no clue about engineering but are some how the forum leaders and can take over other peoples work.
What I posted which tk and bill said was stupid is that if you have a surface area of 5 cubic centimeters and have and pump it into a tube with a surface area of 4 square centimeters, then what you have is a column of water 1.25 cm's tall. And with an area of 5 square centimeters being 1 centimeter deep, it is the 5 cubic centimeters I mention.
What mrwayne was trying to do was to use 1/2 (as an example) of the elevation gained in the pressure head into free energy. What he did not realize was that when he restricted the flow of fluids to increase pressure, he was reducing it's flow rate proportional to the restriction creating the extra pressure. And since his generator was powered by a pressurized flow of fluid, it's flow rate could not be diminished to create the extra pressure.
But as I mentioned, bill and tk have no understanding of engineering otherwise they would have said something like that but they didn't.
Can work on my own much easier than being attacked for actually knowing what I am talking about.

Bye
Jim

tk's post
Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system. « Reply #3413
http://www.overunity.com/10596/hydro-differential-pressure-exchange-over-unity-system/3405/#.UNL-Vr5OlxA

you are an idiot!

johnny874 · « **Reply #85 on:** December 22, 2012, 01:21:22 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 22, 2012, 02:43:21 AM

So avoid it then, you liar. You cannot support any of your contentions about me with facts or references.

Stefan locked Travis's thread because TRAVIS asked him to, and the reason for that was that Travis could not answer my simple questions without admitting that he does not have any self-running machine, that he cannot possibly construct one that produces 20 kW in the footprint of a toolshed, and he does not now and never has had any real proof of overunity performance.... and Mark Dansie's report, as posted there now, confirms all of this.
And I have contributed far more to this forum than you could ever dream about.... since you DO NOTHING, you just talk about when you might be able to do something. You are so blindered and arrogant that you can't even comprehend what I am doing, or why, so it just passes completely over your head.

Alan,
All you have are personal attacks. That is why in the time we have spent in this forum I have come to understand what it will take to build Bessler's wheel and your still trying to convince people you know something.
Still, it could be said you provide the example of how not to be but that would be a lie.
I am the way I am because I am as salty as a sailor should be

And what was it you and your friends ridiculed me for ? Having served in the Navy and worked in an engine room. As it turns out, it was a good start and with those math books I checked out from the library, I gained a deeper understanding of how math applies to something like this.
Kind of why I am doing what I am doing and why all you can do is cry, that's what it really is. I hope you are enjoying your crying session but after all these years Alan, it is old and busted just like you are

I know tk, you are not alan, but if you weren't you would have identified yourself voluntarily but didn't.

Jim

edited to correct verb useage

johnny874 · « **Reply #86 on:** December 22, 2012, 03:42:53 PM »

@All,
Possibly the weekend after Christmas I'll start work on the levers and weights.
Since there are 2 designs I like, I will build both of them. Easier than deciding which one I like better.
Not sure if I'll post my work, it just allows for criticism. Be it as it may, what I originally started with a few years
ago is nothing like what I am working on now. My previous efforts helped me to understand over balance
as a percentage of the mass of a wheel and it's potential to accelerate and decelerate. Both are important
to understand. And while people would tell me those early builds of mine were failures. They were actually
quite successful because of what I was able to learn from doing them. This includes working with wood as well as understanding the motion of pendulums rotating.
And unlike one prominent member in this forum, my work was openly posted. Being able to pursue my work
as I thought I should has been helpful. This has allowed me to answer my own questions which should be important to me and it is.
I think it is a shame when working openly is discouraged. It is not about proving something but finding it interesting how mechanics can work with science to allow for different possibilities. After all, when working with gravity, Newtons f = ma should be the basis of which idea's are measured.

Jim Lindgaard / aka Johnny874

edited to delete the run on between sentences

AB Hammer · « **Reply #87 on:** December 23, 2012, 12:38:06 AM »

Jim Lindgaard / aka Johnny874

LMAO I see you are blaming other people of being me. This is the frist time I have even signed on since the last time I posted to you. I believe that has bee a while. LOL

TK is someone else altogether. I will just check in every once and a while to see how big of Lough I may get. LMAO

The real Alan

johnny874 · « **Reply #88 on:** December 23, 2012, 01:39:17 AM »

Alan,
you mean there is someone else as ignorant as you out there ? VERY SCARY thought.
but then, if you are tk as I think you might be, then you had no need to log pn as ab dumber to harass me.
I think Stefan missed the point of being famous. people like you who only care about that have nothing but spam and a lot of it.
add
what was it the guy in museum of hoaxes ,com told us? we'd only be foot notes in history. but that is not what you want but then, you are not like Bessler as you claim.
if anything, you shame his legacy.
Bessler deserves better and at least with me I have taken the time to learn his work.
cry all you like but then, I AM looking forward to getting started on my build. why I will let you have the forum.

bye

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 23, 2012, 04:00:39 AM »

Any day now Jim is going to actually start to build something. I am serious, he said so. I know he has been saying this for 4 years but, this time I think he really, really means it.

Well, now he said it has to wait until after Christmas BUT, then, seriously, he is really going to begin to think about actually building something.

Well, that will be the day.

A Simple Heron's fountain might be a good place to start but, I don't think he can build a working one. If he could, he would have before saying that me and TK stole his idea and design. So, one day he might also build his fountain design and then he can say that we stole it even though ours were built years before.

Bill

Jim is not named Johnny Dolittle for nothing.

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