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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2235 on: February 21, 2014, 09:36:49 PM »
lol @sarkeizen.who are you trying to kid?yourself? Now go back to my last statement and read it, carefully this time ne?wink-wink ;-)

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« Reply #2236 on: February 21, 2014, 10:19:42 PM »
lol @sarkeizen.who are you trying to kid?
I've laid the logic out pretty plain.  All you are doing is putting your fingers in your ears.

i) The True profitis statement must be supported purely by formal argument and cites from ordinary textbooks.
ii) The True profitis statement has not been supported by formal argument and cites from ordinary textbooks.
iii) Any statement claiming to be equivalent to the True profitis statement must by i) contain a formal argument and cites from ordinary textbooks and nothing else.
iv) Any statement claiming to be equivalent to the True profitis statement must by ii) be unsupported.

Sorry, logic wins, profitis the absolute moron...loses. :D :D :D

But please feel free to continue pretending as if you have some kind of argument (which of course you won't disclose)

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« Reply #2237 on: February 21, 2014, 10:38:03 PM »
yawn @mark E.my statement still stands.getting taller by the second..
Why do you choose to exemplify Dunning-Kruger in action?

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« Reply #2237 on: February 21, 2014, 10:38:03 PM »
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« Reply #2238 on: February 21, 2014, 10:42:39 PM »
yawn @sarkeizen you and mark E are boring.look,either you guys attack my last vehemently destructive statement headon or put a raincheck on repetitive garbage that realy doesnt even scratch my statement one iota.now inject some useful attacks into this conversation because im beginning to agree with our old friend mr tim123,its getting boring :D 

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« Reply #2239 on: February 21, 2014, 10:53:52 PM »
who,s kruger @mark E?

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« Reply #2239 on: February 21, 2014, 10:53:52 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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« Reply #2240 on: February 21, 2014, 10:55:33 PM »
Have you ever been to a supermarket?

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« Reply #2241 on: February 21, 2014, 11:04:59 PM »
that doesnt help us @mark E.im telling you about concentration cells and you want to give a psychology lecture? 

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« Reply #2241 on: February 21, 2014, 11:04:59 PM »
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« Reply #2242 on: February 21, 2014, 11:37:31 PM »
attack my last vehemently destructive statement
Either it's equivalent to the True profitis statement or it is not. 

If it is, then it's powerless because it's unsupported.
If it isn't, it's irrelevant.

Useless or irrelevant.  Let me know which one you pick.

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« Reply #2243 on: February 21, 2014, 11:56:50 PM »
you clearly dont understand anything ive said @sarkeizen. my 1st statement is a consequence of my last statement which is self-supported.self-supported.you can only destroy my last statement by showing how 2 different overpotential gas electrodes cant thermodynamicly re-cycle spontaneously.

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« Reply #2244 on: February 22, 2014, 02:03:13 AM »
you clearly dont understand anything ive said
I understand what you're saying.  You're simply incorrect.

So we will represent the True Profitis Statement as T and any other statement as M (for moronic)
So what do we know about T?  It's true IFF (if and only if) a formal argument is presented and at least one cite from an ordinary textbook.  We will call this lemma (1).
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my 1st statement is a consequence of my last statement
In logic we would write that as: M -> T (or M implies T) we can call that (2).  However because of (1) we know that T is only true if there's a formal logical argument and an ordinary textbook cite.  So unless M contains both of those then M can not imply T.
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which is self-supported .self-supported.
If by that you mean M is true.  Then you have a problem because if M is true it means T is true by virtue of (2).  However T can only be true by formal argument and citing ordinary textbooks.  At no point have you provided a formal logical argument for M and not  only have you provided no ordinary textbook cites BUT you specifically stated that M can't be demonstrated with ordinary textbooks.

So you are in contradiction.  The statements M is true and M->T are mutually exclusive the way you have defined them.

You are simply wrong here.  I wonder why you find that so hard to believe?

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« Reply #2245 on: February 22, 2014, 07:14:53 AM »
let me simplify your formula there @sarkeizen,,if M is my anti-kelvin statement at ambient temperature youre screwed,unless, 1)you show in theory how it doesnt gel for the schoolkids sake.2)you show in physicality how it doesnt gel for the schoolkids sake.the schoolkids are not impressed with you right now because i can easily demo the profitis statement in action with nothing more than a pair platinum pants,a glass of water and a meter while you cant do jackshit! Who are people going to believe @sarkeizen? Me or you.

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« Reply #2245 on: February 22, 2014, 07:14:53 AM »
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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #2246 on: February 22, 2014, 10:33:36 AM »
Hi All,


Updated site


www.quentron.com


I am happy to report that I have figured out how to make the Sebby work at room temp, and at high output.


Sebby is now public property so those interested in building their own home power system might want to try out the new sebby when I publish it. I figure an investment of only a few thousand (not to me) could provide 2kW of 24/7 power.


Nothing yet to publicly share re quenco.


Phil

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« Reply #2247 on: February 22, 2014, 04:00:30 PM »
let me simplify your formula there @sarkeizen,,if M is my anti-kelvin statement
M (for moronic) can be any statement.
T the True Profitis Statement can only be demonstrated with ordinary textbook quotes and logic.  These were YOUR words loser boy.
M can not imply T unless it complies to the same rules for proving T true. 

Like I said, Philip logic is one of the lowest forms of logic.  Please read a book. :D :D

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #2248 on: February 22, 2014, 05:14:23 PM »
Hi All,


Updated site


www.quentron.com


I am happy to report that I have figured out how to make the Sebby work at room temp, and at high output.


Sebby is now public property so those interested in building their own home power system might want to try out the new sebby when I publish it. I figure an investment of only a few thousand (not to me) could provide 2kW of 24/7 power.


Nothing yet to publicly share re quenco.


Phil
Mr. Hardcastle have you conducted any experiments to confirm your current ideas?

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« Reply #2249 on: February 22, 2014, 06:45:56 PM »
Both T and M can be demonstrated with a pair platinum pants and some water @sarkeizen.you are arguing against a live demo infront college kids.the profitis statement will now enter the next phase and burn into totalitarian rule over kelvin statement unless you can stop it.tick-tock tick-tock..

 

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