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profitis

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« Reply #2145 on: February 16, 2014, 10:42:34 AM »
ok @sarkeizen.lets do that.lets block communion of gas between the 2 electrodes in the wikipedia concentration cell.now you are forced to acknowledge that the levels of electrolyte must change during a complete discharge cycle like in the diagram below.you are also forced to acknowledge the error of mark E when he said that theres no rest potential when gas is in communion without partition.

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« Reply #2146 on: February 17, 2014, 03:42:29 AM »
ok @sarkeizen.lets do that.lets block communion of gas between the 2 electrodes in the wikipedia concentration cell.now you are forced to acknowledge
Nothing. There is nothing to say that textbooks agree with this statement.  As the argument is about what textbooks say and you have provided no cite to textbooks so your drawing of a pair of pants doesn't force anything about textbooks.

So this is not a formal logical argument. :D :D :D (or at least not a valid one)

But please keep trying, it's fun to watch.

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« Reply #2147 on: February 17, 2014, 07:41:47 AM »
rubbish @sarkeizen.textbooks say alot about that pair pants.infact,every single high grade textbook on iron-corrosion has something to say about that pants.including wikipedias article.infact,they all declare that pants such a PERSISTENT nuisance that they,ve even given pet names for it besides its scientific name,namely: the oxygen concentration cell.and its going to be a very persistent pest here on quenco forum,naggling,biting,corroding your confidence in the kelvin law away.mr E has DECLARED: IT MUST HAVE NO RESTING POTENTIAL OTHERWISE ITS A KELVIN BREACH.i am now openly DECLARING: IT MUST BE A KELVIN BREACH BECAUSE IT HAS A RESTING POTENTIAL.only one of us can be right @sarkeizen.either it has a resting potential or it doesnt... Now prove me wrong in that diagramed o2 concentration cell with seperate chambers..

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« Reply #2148 on: February 17, 2014, 04:55:44 PM »
textbooks say alot about
What I said was "there is nothing to say".  Meaning that in your argument there is nothing forcing the idea that textbooks say anything like what you are saying.  Since you agree that a formal argument must *force* it's points.  You must also agree you must force the point are claiming concerning ordinary textbook agreeing with you.

Which so far you can't....

So far you've provided one cite which was a lie.  What you indicated was not on that page in that textbook.  If we are to believe you own some textbook on elecctrochemestry it seems that you goofed and referenced the wrong text because you're really that stupid.  Other things you've done is pretend that other papers or books actually agree with you but clearly you haven't read them.  For example you thought a dissertation was a textbook.  :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #2149 on: February 17, 2014, 06:31:30 PM »
excuse me @sarkeizen? i get this feeling that your trying to change the subject.stay on the subject @sarkeizen.stay on the textbook subject of OXYGEN CON-CEN-TRATION CELLS.stay on the subject @sarkeizen.now tell us who is correct: ME OR MR E @sarkeizen.ME OR MR E @sarkeizen.ONE...OR THE OTHER @sarkeizen..ME..OR E..

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« Reply #2150 on: February 17, 2014, 08:44:07 PM »
excuse me @sarkeizen? i get this feeling that your trying to change the subject.
That's because you're not very smart.

You seem to be saying that you're making a formal argument.
You made some kind of claim that you seem to say is in ordinary textbooks.
You understand that formal arguments need to *force* the statement.
You can not force a statement about textbooks without a cite.

So far you have only provided a fake cite and an advertisement that you don't know the difference between a textbook and a dissertation.

So again, please keep trying.  It's very entertaining.

 

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« Reply #2151 on: February 17, 2014, 09:34:47 PM »
so lets go with the textbook flow your highness sir-sarkeizen: the corrosion textbooks say that the oxygen concentration potential will keep rusting the point on the iron,steadily,continuously,over days,months,years,tens of years.this sound like a persistent potential to you? Sounds like a persistent potential to me.with total complete gaseous communion.(try a rusting experiment sometime).thus we safely conclude the standardised equi-pressure oxygen gas concentration cell to posess a permanently stable nernstian rest potential,in breach of kelvin laws.   

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« Reply #2152 on: February 17, 2014, 09:38:22 PM »
so lets go with the textbook
Please cite.

profitis

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« Reply #2153 on: February 17, 2014, 09:46:22 PM »
brb

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« Reply #2154 on: February 17, 2014, 09:59:54 PM »
brb
Yawn. I thought this was is every textbook?

profitis

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« Reply #2155 on: February 18, 2014, 01:58:18 AM »
it is in every textbook mr sarkeizen but the visuals arent: metalcorrosion.blogspot.com/2010/11/differential-aeration-corrosion.html?m=1 .check the visuals here,makes us doubt that the o2 differential potential has any intention of ever stopping its corrosion of this dockside pole.one thing pops to mind after seeing this,if it persists that long on a piece of iron,how long is it gona persist on platinum.pretty permanently for certain. 

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« Reply #2156 on: February 18, 2014, 02:01:59 AM »
it is in every textbook mr sarkeizen
Good then pick an ordinary textbook and provide a cite...

Whoops....you can't do that...because such cites do not exist. Right? :D :D :D :D


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« Reply #2157 on: February 18, 2014, 02:10:52 AM »
brb

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« Reply #2158 on: February 18, 2014, 02:11:33 AM »
brb
How long does it take to find an irrelevant website and post a link?  I mean, since that's what you're going to do..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant

See, that's so easy.

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« Reply #2159 on: February 18, 2014, 02:16:01 AM »
its gota be perfect so we want the best text-cites namsayn @sarkeizen.chill for a while..brb