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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #2040 on: February 09, 2014, 01:32:52 AM »
it was exceptionaly formal @sarkeizen.the way i bridged the gap between textbooks and this website by throwing down a nernstian
A formal argument as defined to you many times is a series of statements where each one forces the next.  That is, there is no possible other conclusion. It must, in this case start with your cite and end with your conclusion "therefore textbooks necessitate the existence of and ability to build a battery which will power an ipod-like device continually and eternally". 

You have provided:

a) No useful cite
b) No series of statements which force each other and end with the aforementioned conclusion.

Hence you have provided no formal argument.   Which is probably the only reason why this argument is still ongoing.  Because you know you would lose.  If you provided the things I've been asking for months.

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« Reply #2041 on: February 09, 2014, 01:49:23 AM »
its time for you to re-examine info theory @sarkeizen. Nernst equation forces equal pressure gas conc cell forces spontaneous reversable thermodynamics. Or in short: gaseous electrochemical entropy trumps kelvin entropy and then vice versa.

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« Reply #2042 on: February 09, 2014, 02:12:35 AM »
its time for you to re-examine info theory @sarkeizen. Nernst equation forces equal pressure gas conc cell forces spontaneous reversable thermodynamics. Or in short: gaseous electrochemical entropy trumps kelvin entropy and then vice versa.
This is not a cite or a formal argument.  You have not provided either in the past. So there is literally no argument for me to address.  When you figure out how to make an argument that actually furthers your point let me know... :D :D

Hint: I've defined it about four times, once was just minutes ago. :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #2042 on: February 09, 2014, 02:12:35 AM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2043 on: February 09, 2014, 12:56:06 PM »
@sarkeizen.i disagree.you have absolutely no choice but to show a discontinuity line and inaccommodation between textbooks and the entire class of gaseous electrochemical spillover cells and their cyclical thermodynamics.

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« Reply #2044 on: February 09, 2014, 03:46:28 PM »
@sarkeizen.i stupidly disagree because I am trying to change the subject.
You may disagree but...
 
i) If you had provided the formal argument you could point out exactly where you did that.  However you can't.
ii) If I doubted you, you could simply repost the same arguments.  However you can't.
iii) If I doubted what you post is, in fact a formal argument.  You could point out how it is a series of statements beginning with your (currently non-existent) cite and ending with your conclusion.  However you can't.

So you have provided no reason to believe that you have presented a formal argument. So there is nothing for me to respond to.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 10:26:55 PM by sarkeizen »

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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2045 on: February 10, 2014, 05:14:35 AM »
@sarkeizen..gibberish.if i drew a diagram of a lightbulb you would know it belongs to textbooks.if i drew a diagram of a d.c.motor you would know it belongs to textbooks.if i drew a diagram of a catalytic gaseous spillover cell(which ive done here) you would know it belongs to textbooks.only an idiot wouldnt know.thus the thermodynamics of these mentioned items must by default also be predictable at a mere whim of a glimpse.

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« Reply #2046 on: February 10, 2014, 05:31:15 AM »
@sarkeizen..gibberish.if i drew a diagram of a lightbulb you would know it belongs to textbooks.
I think the person saying things like"It belongs to textbooks" is the person talking gibberish. 

Again, if you had made a formal argument.  You could say where you did...you can't.
If I didn't believe it, you could repost it.  You can't.
If I didn't think what you post is a formal argument.  You could point out how it is a sequence of statements, stemming from a textbook cite each of which forces the other.  You can't.

You know this.  So now you are blathering about how I need to accept some hand-drawn diagram of yours as a formal argument.

It isn't and I don't. 

Come back when you have an argument worth something.  Right now, you don't.   Moron.

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« Reply #2047 on: February 10, 2014, 05:58:58 AM »
@sarkeizen i did repost it from wikipedia under section titled,'oxygen concentration cell'.now tell us about its thermodynamics,,idiot.

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« Reply #2048 on: February 10, 2014, 02:22:12 PM »
@sarkeizen i did repost it
So far you have posted nothing that fits the definition of a formal argument.

Remember: "You could point out how it is a sequence of statements, stemming from a textbook cite each of which forces the other."  So your post needs a series of statements starting with your cite and ending with your conclusion.

Can you point to where you did that?  Nope.
Can you reproduce where you did that?  Nope.
Can you post nonsense and claim it's a formal argument?  Sure.
Can you demonstrate how what you post is a formal argument?  Nope.

Come back when you have an point that isn't a worthless piece of shit. :D :D :D

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« Reply #2049 on: February 10, 2014, 03:52:29 PM »
lol @sarkeizen your talking such utter crap man and you know it.is it sooo hard to accept that your info formula is screwed.whats the big deal man you,l live through it ok.design some other computer and get rich now before some other smartass reading this shit pulls through namsayn. That fucking article on wikipedia IS NOT going to disappear ok.your gona have to fucking face that shit sooner or later,better sooner to ride that wave now while you can man.do you think that its only hardcastle and me onto this shit? That we,re the only clowns around here waking up to the evidence at hand? Get real man and do the fucking experiment i told you to do.

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« Reply #2050 on: February 10, 2014, 03:59:01 PM »
lol @sarkeizen your talking such utter crap man and you know it.
All you have to do to disprove me is...

i) Copy and paste your formal argument into a post.
ii) Show that it starts with an ordinary textbook cite and ends with your conclusion "virtually all textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to build a battery which will power an ipod-like device continually and eternally.
iii) Each statement in-between must force the next.  That is, there is no other possible logically-valid outcome.

However you can't.  :D :D  Isn't that interesting? :D :D I think it's interesting :D :D

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« Reply #2051 on: February 10, 2014, 04:16:02 PM »
geez im going to explode now,somebody please hand me a beer to chill...

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« Reply #2052 on: February 10, 2014, 04:24:49 PM »
geez im going to explode now,somebody please hand me a beer to chill...
Before you explode could you...

i) Copy and paste your formal argument into a post.
ii) Show that it starts with an ordinary textbook cite and ends with your conclusion "virtually all textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to build a battery which will power an ipod-like device continually and eternally.
iii) Each statement in-between must force the next.  That is, there is no other possible logically-valid outcome.

I'm pretty sure you can't. :D

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« Reply #2053 on: February 10, 2014, 11:14:23 PM »
@sarkeizen no need to go through all that shit. Check it out: the science teacher can ask the student,'hey fran,do me a favour and go draw a diagram of an oxygen diffusion concentration cell and splain to me the thermodynamics'.the kid wouldnt have a choice but to splain the thermodynamics: electrochemical entropy at expense of temperature entropy followed by temperature entropy.repeat cycle.everyone is satisfied everyone is happy.why? Because it fits in so nicely with the textbooks (-:. Electrochemical entropy is always number one with batteries @sarkeizen.

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« Reply #2054 on: February 10, 2014, 11:32:43 PM »
@sarkeizen no need to go through all that shit.
So in other words you haven't made a formal argument.  Right?  In which case you lose.  Remember my point was that you can't support your point or that you can't provide support as strong as your assertion.

A hand drawn diagram, with no cite to a textbook is clearly weaker than a formal argument stemming from a textbook cite.

Since you are clearly arguing a very, very, very strong relationship between the evidence you claim exists (but can't cite) and your conclusion.

:D :D I win. :D :D  Yawn....thanks for playing.   Moron.

 

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