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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1665 on: December 21, 2013, 05:53:07 PM »
can i ask you a question @sarkeizen?
You just did. :)

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« Reply #1666 on: December 21, 2013, 09:11:51 PM »
but i got no reply.do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams @sarkeizen..

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« Reply #1667 on: December 22, 2013, 12:20:37 AM »
but i got no reply.
Actually you did.  You just don't like the reply. 
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do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams @sarkeizen..
Is this going to force something that is absolutely necessary to make the argument "It's possible to learn, strictly by reading textbook to make a device that will power something like an ipod forever"?

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« Reply #1667 on: December 22, 2013, 12:20:37 AM »
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« Reply #1668 on: December 22, 2013, 08:02:43 AM »
in your case yes @sarkeizen.your answer will definitely help the audience force a irreversable conclusion.so why dont you help us out by answering my question?you can answer it just for the sake of answering it sir...why be shy.

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« Reply #1669 on: December 22, 2013, 08:13:40 AM »
in your case yes @sarkeizen.your answer will definitely help the audience force
Are you saying it forces something that is absolutely necessary to make the argument "It's possible to learn, strictly by reading textbook to make a device that will power something like an ipod forever" or that it "helps" something stupidly vague and poorly defined?

It sounds like the later. :D  Why so shy about being clear about what you're saying....seems pretty shifty to me. :D

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« Reply #1669 on: December 22, 2013, 08:13:40 AM »
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« Reply #1670 on: December 22, 2013, 08:32:08 AM »
no no.im saying it will force the audience to make up their minds about the validity of everything you,ve said in this thread @sarkeizen.in fact,your refusal to answer it is making them question your validity as we speak.so im actualy enjoying this (-:

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« Reply #1671 on: December 22, 2013, 03:31:17 PM »
no no.im saying it will force the audience
So it doesn't force anything about the argument "You can show that you can build an ipod charger that will work forever just from reading textbooks"?  So it's irrelevant to proving that point.  Doesn't that, to you seem like a distraction from the point?  Isn't it logical for me to ignore questions which are not relevant to the point?

Also doesn't that make you a liar yet again?  It sure seemed like you said that you would provide an irrefutable series of steps to "You can show that you can build an ipod charger that will work forever just from reading textbooks".





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« Reply #1671 on: December 22, 2013, 03:31:17 PM »
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« Reply #1672 on: December 22, 2013, 04:54:23 PM »
it forces everything about the argument.your validity,therefore your case about the argument.do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build certain batteries for exams @sarkeizen.im ready to give you all the citations you ever dreamed of.all the quotes.all the logic.but not before you answer my question straightforward.what is holding you back @sarkeizen.dont hold us back with you please @sarkeizen.do you think it is logical for a science teacher to ask a student to build a hydrogen concentration cell and a copper concentration cell for exams @sarkeizen.

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« Reply #1673 on: December 22, 2013, 10:50:41 PM »
it forces everything about the argument
...and just a few posts ago when I asked if it forced anything about the argument.  Which is, in case you need reminding "It is possible to learn how to build a device which will power an ipod like device forever strictly from textbooks".   You said "no".  It's right up there in the post history if you don't believe me.

I think you need to take some time and figure out exactly what you're saying.

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your validity
You're going to have to be clearer because in English that really doesn't make any sense.  People don't have a quality "invalid" unless you're talking about someone who is physically crippled.

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therefore your case about the argument
Dude.  Are you really that stupid?  I suppose you are, or just that much of a troll.

The majority of my 100 odd posts can be phrased as "Show me", since the crux of your argument is that one can learn this from textbooks it is reasonable that the evidence come from textbooks.  Although it's novel...in a stupid way...that you would try to demonstrate this without textbooks.  Anyway that's pretty much my case: "Show me".  So clearly your question can have no bearing on that. 

Your posts can be pretty much summed up as: "I can't" phrased in various convoluted ways with long lists of excuses, lies and evasions.
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im ready to give you all the citations you ever dreamed of.all the quotes.all the logic
You are likely lying.  You told this lie before and you continue to lie about other things steadily eroding your credibility.

You have offered nothing.  You have no citations or formal logic - if you had either you could have ended this argument - or at least PROGRESSED it ages ago.  What you want me to agree to is just another attempt to distract from the point.  Which is the textbook evidence for your position and the formal logical argument which moves us from the evidence in textbooks to the conclusion.

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« Reply #1674 on: December 22, 2013, 11:21:18 PM »
do you think that a battery will work until its flat @sarkeizen.(im putting questions like these to you to catch you out.corner you and bombard you with textbook citations as soon as you answer any of them.help me to help you please :-)test me)

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« Reply #1675 on: December 23, 2013, 01:29:08 AM »
do you think that a battery will work until its flat
If by "flat" you mean it won't work anymore then sure but if "flat" means something else then it depends on what you mean.
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bombard you with textbook citations as soon as you answer any of them
Please stop lying.

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« Reply #1676 on: December 23, 2013, 02:21:54 PM »
i mean wont work anymore yes @sarkeizen.thus we conclude that a hydrogen concentration cell must run,at some point,flat @sarkeizen,incapable of doing any more work correct?

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« Reply #1677 on: December 23, 2013, 03:28:28 PM »
At least you stopped lying.  If something will not work anymore then it will have stopped working.

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« Reply #1678 on: December 23, 2013, 04:45:50 PM »
so let me explain how a hydrogen concentration cell runs flat @sarkeizen.it decompresses gas at one electrode and squashes it on the other.after that,its flat.dead flat.incapable of further work ok? Notice it does this when switched on ok(duh..logical).notice it doesnt do jackshit prior to being switched on(duh..logical).in other words its most stable state when switched off is the gaseous concentrations prior to being switched on.and its most stable state when switched on is a gas pressure differential ok?ok @sarkeizen?with me so far?

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« Reply #1679 on: December 23, 2013, 05:52:08 PM »
so let me explain how a hydrogen concentration cell runs flat @sarkeizen.it decompresses gas at one electrode and squashes it on the other.after that,its flat.dead flat.incapable of further work ok? Notice it does this when switched on ok(duh..logical).notice it doesnt do jackshit prior to being switched on(duh..logical).in other words its most stable state when switched off is the gaseous concentrations prior to being switched on.and its most stable state when switched on is a gas pressure differential ok?ok @sarkeizen?with me so far?
Cite please.

 

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